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Title: Collage Football thread.
Post by: oakranger on July 27, 2023, 07:59:49 PM
23’ a month away in what may be an interesting season.

Before we start let’s see the latest news.  Oklahoma and Texas to the SEC in 24’ season which brings a total of 16 teams in the SEC.  Can they get any bigger?

In a shocking announcement, USC and UCLA will joined the Big 10 in the 24’ season.  I really do not know how this will play out for them but they sure as hell will not dominate tOSU, Mich, PSU.  And just like SEC, Big 10 will have a total of 16 teams.  Can another team(s) joined?  Well, latest reports Oregon interest, this may be a near contract, to joined the Big10.  Now this is a game changer.  And Washington too may joined.

In the latest new, Colorado university returning to Big 12.  And I thought Big 12 will be no more after Missouri, TA@M, Nebraska, Texas and OU leaving.  23’ season BYU, Cincinnati, Houston, and UCF will joined.  Then CU in 24’ season.  I can see 2 more teams joining in the next 2-3 years.

Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: RUSH1 on July 27, 2023, 09:25:12 PM
In other news, there's the SEC, then there's the patchwork lesser conferences.  College football is going down the drain and I say that as a SEC fan.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: alskahawk on July 28, 2023, 12:16:19 AM
 B10 teams have had trouble when they go west to compete in regular season games. The same with the west teams when they come east.

  Most of the conference will have trouble competing with the new format. Indiana, Iowa, Wisconsin, Purdue, Northwestern, Nebraska, Minnesota, Michigan State, Rutgers, Maryland will for the most part be shut out of Indy. Wisconsin will most likely be the one to compete with Michigan/Ohio State/Penn State. Scheduling plays a big part in the success of those teams. It will be the same for USC/UCLA if they have to travel east to play Ohio State/ Michigan it could be tough on their season.

 The fight will be Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Dadtallica on July 28, 2023, 10:48:10 AM
Lol ummm Collage?
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Banshee7 on July 28, 2023, 06:03:31 PM
In other news, there's the SEC, then there's the patchwork lesser conferences.  College football is going down the drain and I say that as a SEC fan.

I think the NCAA is going down, period. 
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Shuffler on July 29, 2023, 04:56:53 AM
NIL and allowing kids to jump ship.... poor additions to college football.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: sparky127 on July 30, 2023, 11:39:48 AM
I was expecting to see a bunch of pictures arranged in an appealing manner.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Shuffler on July 30, 2023, 03:03:17 PM
I was expecting to see a bunch of pictures arranged in an appealing manner.

 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: oakranger on August 05, 2023, 12:05:59 PM
PAC-12 is as good as dead.   Remaining teams maybe joined Big West. 
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Brooke on August 05, 2023, 02:05:11 PM
I love college football.  Very much looking forward to another season.

So many big changes.  Pac12 is dead -- with USC, UCLA, and now Washington and Oregon to the Big10 and Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah to the Big12.  Looks like the SEC, Big10, and Big12 will be the three main conferences, as there are rumors of Clemson, FSU, and maybe Miami looking for ways to leave the ACC.

In the Big10, the coaching changes at Nebraska (Matt Rhule) and Wisconsin (Luke Fickell) will be interesting to watch.  Also interested in seeing Iowa now with Cade McNamara from Michigan, who I think is very good, and tight-end Eric All from Michigan, a great TE.

I'm hoping my beloved Wolverines have a great season.

Hoping for a great season for the Vols, too.

And looking forward to many excellent SEC Shorts episodes.  :aok
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: sparky127 on August 05, 2023, 04:48:03 PM
Yay sports!
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: knorB on August 05, 2023, 06:36:55 PM
Yay bread and circus!

Fixed
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: alskahawk on August 06, 2023, 03:13:12 PM
I love college football.  Very much looking forward to another season.

So many big changes.  Pac12 is dead -- with USC, UCLA, and now Washington and Oregon to the Big10 and Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah to the Big12.  Looks like the SEC, Big10, and Big12 will be the three main conferences, as there are rumors of Clemson, FSU, and maybe Miami looking for ways to leave the ACC.

In the Big10, the coaching changes at Nebraska (Matt Rhule) and Wisconsin (Luke Fickell) will be interesting to watch.  Also interested in seeing Iowa now with Cade McNamara from Michigan, who I think is very good, and tight-end Eric All from Michigan, a great TE.

I'm hoping my beloved Wolverines have a great season.

Hoping for a great season for the Vols, too.

And looking forward to many excellent SEC Shorts episodes.  :aok

 Most of the West division of the B10 is in turmoil. Purdue, Wisconsin, Northwestern and Nebraska have coaching changes. Minnesota, Illinois lost top performers to graduation. Iowa new QB, revamped offensive line. Same ole bad play calling probably. Iowa's offense ranked 124th worst in the country. How there were 7 teams worse than Iowa's offense. 

 Now next year, Oregon, Washington, USC and UCLA join the B10. The west coast teams are used to long fights from So Cal to Washington and vice versa. But how are they going to do flying to the Midwest in November? Going to be interesting!
                      Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Brooke on August 06, 2023, 09:11:08 PM
Go Hawks!

Are you a Hawkeyes fan?

I'm thinking Iowa will be quite good this year, with an excellent defense (as usual) but also a drastically improved offense.  I would not be surprised if they win the Western division.  It is a very interesting year with so many changes for so many teams.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: oakranger on August 19, 2023, 10:55:09 AM
Air Force academy new football uniforms for 2023.

https://gazette.com/sports/air-force-sports/air-force-honors-1942-doolittle-raid-with-latest-alternate-football-uniforms/article_471c78ba-3bca-11ee-a7cc-f7f79ff39562.amp.html



Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Brooke on August 22, 2023, 04:17:12 PM
Air Force academy new football uniforms for 2023.

https://gazette.com/sports/air-force-sports/air-force-honors-1942-doolittle-raid-with-latest-alternate-football-uniforms/article_471c78ba-3bca-11ee-a7cc-f7f79ff39562.amp.html

Sweet!
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: alskahawk on August 27, 2023, 08:52:59 PM
Are you a Hawkeyes fan?

I'm thinking Iowa will be quite good this year, with an excellent defense (as usual) but also a drastically improved offense.  I would not be surprised if they win the Western division.  It is a very interesting year with so many changes for so many teams.

 Yes I am.

 Iowa should be better this year. For the last 2 years their offensive line was so bad it was laughable. Just pathetic. If Iowa doesn't win the West this year, it's their last chance. USC, UCLA, Oreogn, Washingto coming in next year and no divisions.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: RUSH1 on August 28, 2023, 09:13:02 PM
Yes I am.

 Iowa should be better this year. For the last 2 years their offensive line was so bad it was laughable. Just pathetic. If Iowa doesn't win the West this year, it's their last chance. USC, UCLA, Oreogn, Washingto coming in next year and no divisions.

There's always wrestling.   
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: alskahawk on August 30, 2023, 12:42:57 AM
There's always wrestling.

  And women's basketball!
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: perdue3 on August 30, 2023, 06:38:52 PM
Can we please start another thread called College Football 2023. I hate to see Collage Football every week.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Brooke on August 30, 2023, 08:17:03 PM
Colleague Football 2023, roger.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: oakranger on September 02, 2023, 03:39:53 PM
Wow.  CU did good.  This should put a lot of confidence in the team. 
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: shotgunneeley on September 03, 2023, 10:21:34 PM
I’m just glad the “LSU sucks” side of my personality won out over the “Team SEC Rulz” side! Goes to show how much things can change from one half to another much less an opening drive.

General takeaway from the Arkansas opener is that our run game is a bit less than desired.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Brooke on September 04, 2023, 03:03:37 AM
I watched a few games.

Michigan looked very good until swapping in 2nd+ string, then didn't do much on offense.  The passing game looked nice.  The running game needs more work.

Tennessee looked very good.  The offense looks good, and the defense looks better than last year.

Ohio State won, and the game was never in doubt. But they have stuff to work on.  They've got a couple of easier games to get things sorted until Notre Dame.

LSU getting blown out by FSU was a surprise to me.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: oakranger on September 04, 2023, 11:48:44 AM
I watched a few games.

Michigan looked very good until swapping in 2nd+ string, then didn't do much on offense.  The passing game looked nice.  The running game needs more work.

Tennessee looked very good.  The offense looks good, and the defense looks better than last year.

Ohio State won, and the game was never in doubt. But they have stuff to work on.  They've got a couple of easier games to get things sorted until Notre Dame.

LSU getting blown out by FSU was a surprise to me.


Not bad start for Mich w/o Harbaugh.  Never less,  they look like Big 10 champ contender and playoff competitors…….if they learn their lesson against TCU.

My buckeyes looked sloppy.  I know, first game of the season but they could have done better.   Biggest issue is QB.   In all I do see a two lost game year. 

PSU can make or break Mich and tOSU.  They are going after that big 10 championship and playoff appearance.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Brooke on September 04, 2023, 04:49:01 PM
Not bad start for Mich w/o Harbaugh.  Never less,  they look like Big 10 champ contender and playoff competitors…….if they learn their lesson against TCU.

They need to work on run blocking.  Passing game and defense looked good.  It is against a lower-division opponent, though.

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My buckeyes looked sloppy.  I know, first game of the season but they could have done better.   Biggest issue is QB.   In all I do see a two lost game year.

Day has a marvelous track record with QB's.  Both Stroud and Fields looked not so polished in their first starts, and they became awesome.  I'm interested to see how it goes moving forward.

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PSU can make or break Mich and tOSU.  They are going after that big 10 championship and playoff appearance.

Drew Allar looked pretty good.  He didn't look that good last year, so lots of improvement for him so far.  He looked pretty nimble for such a huge guy.  Penn State's defense didn't look as stout as usual.

Of course, all of this is just game 1.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: RUSH1 on September 16, 2023, 09:21:47 PM
Go Gators!  We needed that W, to the chagrin of Herbstreit and Fowler.         
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: oakranger on September 17, 2023, 12:37:12 AM
Go Gators!  We needed that W, to the chagrin of Herbstreit and Fowler.         

Looked like there was about to be another braw at the end. 

I never under stand when two players start throwing punches at each other.  Both have helmet and gear on yet that act like they do not have any gear on.   What the bloody dose the one guy, who throws a punch, thinks he will achieved hitting the other guy? 
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Post by: Eagler on September 17, 2023, 08:02:56 AM
Go Gators!  We needed that W, to the chagrin of Herbstreit and Fowler.         

Nice surprise  :cheers:

USF loss to AL was a win imo..AL will rank lower

Eagler

Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: shotgunneeley on September 17, 2023, 09:57:19 AM
One of those years where anybody can beat anybody. Being a top-tiered team lasts  only as long as the next darkhorse. Like K said to J in Men in Black, skills mean precisely nothing.

BYU deserved the win against us. They outperformed us and didn’t buckle when we shot out to a 14-0 lead. Bleh play calling, our front line getting whipped, too many costly mistakes and penalties. Never fails if we are good there is always someone in the SEC better or if the rest of the SEC is struggling we still have to struggle harder.

 :cheers: To the tenth year of low expectations - huzzah!
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Brooke on September 17, 2023, 09:26:02 PM
Michigan had a bizarre game.  During the 1st two games (against teams in lower division) had dominating passing, but weirdly not able to get run game going, when that was assumed to be Michigan's greatest strength.  Then in 3rd game, got the running game going, but the passing game imploded into 3 interceptions.

I also like Tennessee, but they got blasted by underdog Florida.

Maybe it was a weird weed overall, as #1 Georgia had some troubles with underdog South Carolina; #3 Florida State barely beat Boston College; #10 Alabama beat South Florida 17-3 and is now ranked 1 ahead of Oregon State; Duke is ranked #18.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: oakranger on September 17, 2023, 10:53:34 PM
Michigan had a bizarre game.  During the 1st two games (against teams in lower division) had dominating passing, but weirdly not able to get run game going, when that was assumed to be Michigan's greatest strength.  Then in 3rd game, got the running game going, but the passing game imploded into 3 interceptions.

I also like Tennessee, but they got blasted by underdog Florida.

Maybe it was a weird weed overall, as #1 Georgia had some troubles with underdog South Carolina; #3 Florida State barely beat Boston College; #10 Alabama beat South Florida 17-3 and is now ranked 1 ahead of Oregon State; Duke is ranked #18.

Week 3 was odd.  What we thought would be a lot of blow out games end up being that.  Thing have change this year in CFB.  And the most obvious is there are no teams showing complete dominance. 
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: shotgunneeley on September 24, 2023, 04:43:32 PM
Including last night, our last four matchups against LSU have all been decided by a field goal - we have come up on the short side three out of four of those. It is frustrating to play well enough to barely lose. If I had a dollar for each time a last-second field goal topped us, I could pay off my floor renovation! We had to settle for like four field goals after getting down to the friggin goal line, penalties killed us - same old story. We could have lost every other game but last night and I would have counted our season a success - now just gotta batten down the hatches and grind out the rest of what will likely be struggle to even become bowl eligible.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: oakranger on September 30, 2023, 11:02:04 PM
My top 10 ranking prediction after this weekend.
UGA drops to #2
Mich moves up #1
Texas #3
tOSU #4
FSU#5
PSU #6
Wash #7
USC drops to #10
Oregon moves up to #8
Bama moves up to #9
Utah drops #16
ND moves up to #10
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: oakranger on October 08, 2023, 02:07:29 PM
Did anybody have OU and Louisville to win this past weekend? 
Is USC still CPF possible?
Can UGA defeat Old Miss and/ or Missouri?
PSU,  are they that quiet team that can beat tOSU and Mich this year?

So much going on in the ranking this year likes we have not seen over 10 or so years.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: oakranger on November 02, 2023, 12:26:14 PM
So Michigan.  WTF?!?

Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Brooke on November 03, 2023, 02:54:54 AM
So Michigan.  WTF?!?

It has become like an espionage novel.  But I have wasted a lot of time looking into all of it.

What is allowed by NCAA:
-- Deciphering opponents' signals.
-- Getting video from 3rd parties.

What is not allowed:
-- "In-person scouting."  Article 11.6.1 of NCAA Division I 2023-24 Manual.

What is true:
-- Michigan had a staffer whose job was deciphering opponents' signals.  (This is not a violation of rules.)

What is alleged that most people believe is true, including lots of Michigan fans:
-- The staffer paid for 3rd parties to get videos of opponents' games that he (the staffer) didn't attend.

Some feel this does not violate 11.6.1, and does not even violate the spirit of the rule.  Because there is no language to the effect of "in-person scouting, and scouting by agents or assigns, is prohibited".  And because there are discussions of amendments in the rules that imply it really is specifically "scouting" and "in-person" that matter in a way that wouldn't preclude 3rd party video taking.  Also, teams use 3rd-party video as a matter of course, and that video does also have teams' signs in it.

Some feel it doesn't violate 11.6.1 technically, but does violate the spirit of the rule.  Many think Michigan itself will take this point of view.

Some feel it does violate the wording of 11.6.1.  I feel this is the opinion of people who don't know much about interpretation of laws and regulations.

What is alleged that is still more unknown:
-- The Michigan staffer was on the sidelines of a CMU/Michigan State game.  (This would clearly be a violation of 11.6.1.)
-- That Michigan coaches knew about these activities of the staffer.

The process is supposed to be like this:
1.  Some party notifies NCAA of alleged violations.
2.  NCAA investigates and tells the school it is doing so, and gathers information.  The school is not allowed to speak about the investigation.
3.  If NCAA thinks rules violations occurred, they notify the school of findings and ask for response.
4.  School gives a response within 90 days.
5.  NCAA determines if there should be punishment and what it should be.

The process is like that, except that it includes that all information was leaked incrementally to particular journalists/bloggers, who then put their spin on it and posted on social media, especially Twitter.  Creating a media frenzy.

The process is currently in step 2.

How big a deal is this?

Despite the opinions of various fans, media blowhards, anonymous sources, etc. -- no one knows yet. 

There was in the past a violation of in-person scouting, and the NCAA penalty was that the staffer was suspended for half a game.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: oakranger on November 03, 2023, 09:51:26 PM
It has become like an espionage novel.  But I have wasted a lot of time looking into all of it.

What is allowed by NCAA:
-- Deciphering opponents' signals.
-- Getting video from 3rd parties.

What is not allowed:
-- "In-person scouting."  Article 11.6.1 of NCAA Division I 2023-24 Manual.

What is true:
-- Michigan had a staffer whose job was deciphering opponents' signals.  (This is not a violation of rules.)

What is alleged that most people believe is true, including lots of Michigan fans:
-- The staffer paid for 3rd parties to get videos of opponents' games that he (the staffer) didn't attend.

Some feel this does not violate 11.6.1, and does not even violate the spirit of the rule.  Because there is no language to the effect of "in-person scouting, and scouting by agents or assigns, is prohibited".  And because there are discussions of amendments in the rules that imply it really is specifically "scouting" and "in-person" that matter in a way that wouldn't preclude 3rd party video taking.  Also, teams use 3rd-party video as a matter of course, and that video does also have teams' signs in it.

Some feel it doesn't violate 11.6.1 technically, but does violate the spirit of the rule.  Many think Michigan itself will take this point of view.

Some feel it does violate the wording of 11.6.1.  I feel this is the opinion of people who don't know much about interpretation of laws and regulations.

What is alleged that is still more unknown:
-- The Michigan staffer was on the sidelines of a CMU/Michigan State game.  (This would clearly be a violation of 11.6.1.)
-- That Michigan coaches knew about these activities of the staffer.

The process is supposed to be like this:
1.  Some party notifies NCAA of alleged violations.
2.  NCAA investigates and tells the school it is doing so, and gathers information.  The school is not allowed to speak about the investigation.
3.  If NCAA thinks rules violations occurred, they notify the school of findings and ask for response.
4.  School gives a response within 90 days.
5.  NCAA determines if there should be punishment and what it should be.

The process is like that, except that it includes that all information was leaked incrementally to particular journalists/bloggers, who then put their spin on it and posted on social media, especially Twitter.  Creating a media frenzy.

The process is currently in step 2.

How big a deal is this?

Despite the opinions of various fans, media blowhards, anonymous sources, etc. -- no one knows yet. 

There was in the past a violation of in-person scouting, and the NCAA penalty was that the staffer was suspended for half a game.

I am on neutral grounds on this.  It just seems never ending media coverage ever since day one.  Now it seems that many coaches in Big 10 want Michigan punished severly.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Brooke on November 03, 2023, 11:48:10 PM
It's a media frenzy.  Media frenzies are a mix of some truth and a huge amount of false, slanted stuff.  I'm skeptical of all news until it gets more verified.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Brooke on November 26, 2023, 03:12:50 AM
The Vols end their regular season at 7-4.  I wish the win ratio were higher, but will go to a decent bowl game, and there is always next year.

My beloved Wolverines managed to defeat #2 Ohio State in The Game.  It was nerve wracking but ultimately glorious.  Although the awesome offensive lineman Zack Zinter suffered a season-ending injury late in the game, and the 5-star CB Will Johnson got injured and left the game.

Next up for the Wolverines is the Big 10 Championship game against Iowa.  Iowa is perhaps the most-unusual team in football this season, with a very poorly ranked offense and a defense so good that they are still 10-2 and were 2 points away from 11-1.  Their starting QB was Cade McNamara, former starting QB for Michigan.  Their starting TE was Eric All, former starting TE for Michigan.  Both great players but both with season-ending injuries before they get to play Michigan in the Championship.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Brooke on November 26, 2023, 03:33:57 AM
A couple of games were wild.

Alabama was sure to lose to Auburn.  All Auburn had to do was catch a punt.  But they muffed it.  Then all they had to do was keep Alabama from scoring on 4th and 31.  But they rushed 2 and let Alabama have half a minute to throw it, which they finally did for a TD.

On its final drive, unbeaten Washington needed a 4th-and-1 conversion at its own 29 yard line and a last-second 42-yard field goal to win against Washington State.
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Post by: DmonSlyr on November 26, 2023, 05:40:12 AM
Poor Auburn fans, cannot believe Alabama got that catch. Absolutely amazing throw and catch there. Awesome game!

UF almost had FSU also. Very close game. Very unfortunate for FSU to have such a great season and then lose their starting QB last week for the season. Going to be very tough for them now.

This has been a very interesting season all around, no idea who is gonna take the title.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Maverick on November 26, 2023, 09:55:45 AM
I watched the Florida vs Florida State game last night. It looked like the Seminoles were going to be blown out in that rivalry game then one of the gator players decided to spit in the face of the Seminoles, on camera, in front of the Official. He got his nasty butt ejected. From that point on the 'Noles controlled the game. They had been12 points to nothing down then. Later another Gator got ejected for targeting the sliding 'Nole QB. Two of the Gators were involved in slamming the down QB but one went head to head. Outside of the egregious behavior it was a pretty good game.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Shuffler on November 27, 2023, 12:51:22 AM
Looks like A&M is getting Elko as the new Head Coach.
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Post by: Frodo on November 27, 2023, 09:45:11 AM
What about the season Mizzou had. Not picked to do anything this year. No name QB, walk on running back that led the SEC in rushing. Let LSU get back in the game they should have won. A couple of bad penalties late cost them the Georgia game. But a fun season to watch.  :old:
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: RUSH1 on November 27, 2023, 01:27:03 PM
I watched the Florida vs Florida State game last night. It looked like the Seminoles were going to be blown out in that rivalry game then one of the gator players decided to spit in the face of the Seminoles, on camera, in front of the Official. He got his nasty butt ejected. From that point on the 'Noles controlled the game. They had been12 points to nothing down then. Later another Gator got ejected for targeting the sliding 'Nole QB. Two of the Gators were involved in slamming the down QB but one went head to head. Outside of the egregious behavior it was a pretty good game.

A game UF should have won unfortunately.  The unsportsmanlike penalties were certainly huge, but your automatic FG kicker missing two and your HC/OC losing his mind and calling some double reverse, end around BS right after we forced a safety and were moving the ball just fine is what really cost us the game.   
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: RUSH1 on November 27, 2023, 08:47:19 PM
A game UF should have won unfortunately.  The unsportsmanlike penalties were certainly huge, but your automatic FG kicker missing two and your HC/OC losing his mind and calling some double reverse, end around BS right after we forced a safety and were moving the ball just fine is what really cost us the game.   

I see we just fired our secondary and DL coaches.  That's a start, but we still have this OC who happens to be our HC thing to figure out.   
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: shotgunneeley on November 28, 2023, 08:02:33 PM
I’ve seen worse seasons, but overall the last eleven years have been a real bummer. The culture has been shown to be a joke in the media. Hard to get a good program going with as much internal issues with admin turnovers and gaps in our player skill sets not to mention the unrelenting pressure of being in the SEC. Last year we lost 4/6 games by a field goal or less; this year we lost 5/8 games by 7pts or less.

Just today we hired back our old HC Bobby Petrino to be our OC. I don’t know how it came to be, but it is all crazy since we fired him following the 2011 season due to the hiring/affair scandal and now here we are bringing him back online. Not sure how this is going to work out under Sam Pittman who primarily experience with O-line (and that certainly does not say much as our lack of blocking or run game was the focal point of our struggles this year).
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: shotgunneeley on December 03, 2023, 11:56:02 AM
Despite coming out undefeated, I agree with FSU being bumped out of the top four with their current lack of offense. I don’t see them beating any of the other top six. Hard to argue the cases for which one-loss team should be in there when it is such a mess of who-beat-who or who only won by a little bit. Georgia better play lights out against FSU or there will be a crapshow if there isn’t one brewing already. I would have thought though that Georgia would have dropped to #4 and Alabama to play FSU in the Orange bowl.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Mano on December 03, 2023, 10:34:55 PM
Michigan Bama Washington Texas.

Should be fun to watch.

 :salute

Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Brooke on December 04, 2023, 12:22:20 AM
I would have loved seeing Michigan vs. Washington in the Rose Bowl.  It would be great to see that because of history, Rose Bowl Big 10 vs. Pac 12, especially this being the last year of the Pac 12.

But we will get Michigan vs. Alabama there, and I'm greatly looking forward to that game.

This CFP is interesting in that I think there are about 8 teams that would be true contenders in it:  the four that were picked (well, FSU might have trouble because of loss of starting QB), plus Georgia, Ohio State, FSU, and Oregon.

Outside of the CFP, I would have loved to see Ohio State vs. Oregon in a bowl.  What a game that would have been -- top remaining Big 10 vs. top remaining Pac 12, both great teams.  But instead we have the Give Little Timmy a Chance Bowl, and they shoved Oregon into that one.  What a wasted opportunity for a great matchup.

I will be interested to see the Vols vs. Iowa.  Iowa is such a strange outlier, I'm curious how it will go.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: RUSH1 on December 05, 2023, 02:38:03 PM
Despite coming out undefeated, I agree with FSU being bumped out of the top four with their current lack of offense. I don’t see them beating any of the other top six. Hard to argue the cases for which one-loss team should be in there when it is such a mess of who-beat-who or who only won by a little bit. Georgia better play lights out against FSU or there will be a crapshow if there isn’t one brewing already. I would have thought though that Georgia would have dropped to #4 and Alabama to play FSU in the Orange bowl.

Yep.  FSU's play since Travis got knocked out is why they are not in it.  That team now would have a 0% chance of winning a NC.  I didn't think they were a top 4 team even with Travis but had Travis' injury taken place late in the game against Louisville, I believe they would still have made the playoffs.  Unfortunately for them the committee has had more than 2 games to watch FSU's offense without Travis and it isn't pretty.

W's have never been the end all be all with the NCAA.  For example, go back to FSU's first National Championship in '93 when an 11-0 Nebraska and an 11-0 WVU finished second and third respectively behind the 11-1 Noles.  They've got short memories in Tallahassee it seems.             
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Maverick on December 06, 2023, 11:48:09 AM
I can understand that the committee formed the opinion that Florida might not be competitive based on the loss of the first string quarterback. However I feel the TEAM (not just the first string QB) did earn that chance to compete and fail if they couldn't rise to the level of competition. To have it arbitrarily removed was an error IMO. They performed adequately to qualify for the position and saying that they would likely lose shouldn't be a determining factor. After all, in every one of those games, there WILL be a team losing.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Eagler on December 06, 2023, 12:56:51 PM
I can understand that the committee formed the opinion that Florida might not be competitive based on the loss of the first string quarterback. However I feel the TEAM (not just the first string QB) did earn that chance to compete and fail if they couldn't rise to the level of competition. To have it arbitrarily removed was an error IMO. They performed adequately to qualify for the position and saying that they would likely lose shouldn't be a determining factor. After all, in every one of those games, there WILL be a team losing.

This..

I guess the committee can see the future and don't want us to suffer through a possible lopsided game as they can see all the other matches will be close nail biters..

Just more rule changing ie politics imo

Eagler
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: RUSH1 on December 06, 2023, 03:56:55 PM
I can understand that the committee formed the opinion that Florida might not be competitive based on the loss of the first string quarterback. However I feel the TEAM (not just the first string QB) did earn that chance to compete and fail if they couldn't rise to the level of competition. To have it arbitrarily removed was an error IMO. They performed adequately to qualify for the position and saying that they would likely lose shouldn't be a determining factor. After all, in every one of those games, there WILL be a team losing.

I will forgive you this time for mistaking Florida for Florida State, but please never let that happen again.   
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: RUSH1 on December 06, 2023, 03:59:43 PM
This..

I guess the committee can see the future and don't want us to suffer through a possible lopsided game as they can see all the other matches will be close nail biters..

Just more rule changing ie politics imo

Eagler

Actually, the committee got to watch FSU's offense without Travis at QB for more than two games.  It was awful.  That is why they were left out.  It is my opinion that had Travis gotten injured late in their game against Louisville (last game of the season) they would be in the playoffs.   
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Brooke on December 06, 2023, 04:38:13 PM
This year seems particularly difficult for CFP since there are about 8 teams that seem all competitive for a national championship.

Michigan, Washington, Texas, Alabama, and FSU, Georgia, Ohio State, and Oregon all seem competitive with each other.  But they've got to pick only 4 of them.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Brooke on December 07, 2023, 08:17:20 PM
So, how do folks think the CFP will go?

As a Michigan homer, I am compelled to predict Michigan over Alabama.

Since I lived near Seattle, I have to predict Washington over Texas.

Then, my beloved Wolverines over Washington.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: RUSH1 on December 07, 2023, 08:37:30 PM
So, how do folks think the CFP will go?

As a Michigan homer, I am compelled to predict Michigan over Alabama.

Since I lived near Seattle, I have to predict Washington over Texas.

Then, my beloved Wolverines over Washington.

Texas or Bama.  Zero chance that Saban gets beat twice by the same team in the same year, though.  Unfortunately, Mano gets to show off another pic of that stupid elephant.   
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Mano on December 07, 2023, 11:23:40 PM
Hiya Rush

You are right

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Maverick on December 09, 2023, 10:09:30 AM
I will forgive you this time for mistaking Florida for Florida State, but please never let that happen again.

 I didn't confuse the teams. There was only one of the teams from Florida in that particular part of the conversation hence little possibility for confusion, at least on my part. How Florida of you to get confused however.  :D
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: RUSH1 on December 12, 2023, 02:57:12 PM
I didn't confuse the teams. There was only one of the teams from Florida in that particular part of the conversation hence little possibility for confusion, at least on my part. How Florida of you to get confused however.  :D

Hmm, except it doesn't quite work like that. 
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Frodo on December 30, 2023, 04:42:00 PM
Missouri has to get coach of the year? Tough game to watch unless you are a punter.  :devil  Impressed with the Ohio State defense. But how do you not give your back up QB more reps in practice? Especially with all the practice time before the game.  :headscratch:

Missouri will be even better next year it looks like.

Florida State is showing at the moment why they didn't get any respect in bowl selections.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Spikes on December 30, 2023, 06:06:36 PM
Not that I am a proponent of them being in the CFP, but hey did have like 30 something players unavailable for the game for one reason or another. I think if Travis didn't get hurt, the CFP committee would've absolutely considered them more seriously, but I think they rightfully excluded them considering the magnitude of an injury to the star QB. Sucks for the rest of the players, but the CFP isn't supposed to be teams who "deserve" to be there. It's supposed to be the best 4 teams, period.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: CAV on December 31, 2023, 12:23:09 PM


The FBS currently has ten conferences, you win your conference, your in the play off.  All others get to watch. Thats the playoff system I would like to see.

It will never happen... but that is the fairest way to do it.

CAV
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Eagler on December 31, 2023, 01:02:31 PM
Should go by record..

Strength in scheduling games is another matter entirely

Yes FSU would have been a blow out...just like the bulldogs gave them but so be it..at least they would have been given the chance they earned going undefeated the entire season..

Eagler
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Brooke on December 31, 2023, 06:03:31 PM
They should definitely factor in strength of schedule.

Otherwise, it is best to schedule as many lower-division and weak teams as possible.  Which is not fun to watch.

I'd like to see an elo-type system for ranking.

Up to now, it has mostly been record with strength of schedule figuring in only secondarily.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 31, 2023, 07:35:33 PM
I think a top 8 tournament makes the most sense. Since you really can't have a lot of games. 3 final games for each team wouldn't be so bad. Plus it would add an extra game in potentially to avoid the 3 weeks of downtown. What I don't particularly like are teams who lose a lot of players during this time to trades and pro so the games aren't necessarily representative of their season, which can be disappointing for fans. A layman isn't going to understand that FSU is missing a bunch of players which created an even bigger discrepancy in skill.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: DmonSlyr on January 01, 2024, 07:54:58 PM
Great game and win for Michigan! I'm glad they beat Bama. Certainly have a great shot and winning it all.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: AKIron on January 01, 2024, 09:14:20 PM
Son-in-law from Montana is a Griz fan. Daughter took this at the last game and they are coming to Frisco Texas for the game on Jan 7th. Amazing view.

https://ibb.co/V29bT79
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: perdue3 on January 01, 2024, 10:13:53 PM

I will be interested to see the Vols vs. Iowa.  Iowa is such a strange outlier, I'm curious how it will go.

That was always going to be a blow out, even with Joe out.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Brooke on January 02, 2024, 05:19:33 AM
That was always going to be a blow out, even with Joe out.

It sure was a blow out.

Iowa has zero (or almost zero) offense, but usually a very good defense.  I figured Iowa would get maybe 10 points max.  I was curious to see the Vols offense vs. Iowa defense.  Vols looked great.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Brooke on January 02, 2024, 05:22:34 AM
Both the Michigan/Alabama and the Washington/Texas games were exciting to the finish.

Since I'm a Wolverine who lived near Seattle and has family who are Huskies fans, I'm happy to see Michigan vs. Washington in the Championship.

I of course hope that my beloved Wolverines win.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: oakranger on January 02, 2024, 08:46:55 AM
Both match up lived up to most ppl expectations, except SEC clowns.  Glad that to see Michigan  finally made it after +20 years(?).   And I do not think Washington never had an NC appearance.   I am sure I am wrong, so somebody correct me.

Leaning towards Washington to win, never less, we will see a great game.

Funny thought about this year CFP.   One team from SEC, other will joined the SEC next year.   One team from BIG10, the other will joined the BIG10 next year. 
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Banshee7 on January 02, 2024, 01:25:10 PM
*nvm
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: sparky127 on January 08, 2024, 08:03:38 PM
Go Blue!
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Brooke on January 09, 2024, 02:12:27 AM
I'm very happy for my beloved Wolverines.  I felt going in that this matchup was favorable for Michigan, as the team has been built for 3 years especially for battling high-level passing teams from Ohio State.  It being a favorable matchup seemed the case early, with two quick rushing touchdowns.  Then Michigan's offense stagnated for quite a while.  But as is often the case for the Wolverines, the defense kept it up until Michigan's offense got going again.

I often feel sad, too, for guys on the other team, for they also are hard-working kids who wish to win.  In this case, Michael Penix seems like a great human being, and I wish him all the best.  I feel good that he and those receivers are destined for the NFL regardless of the game.

Next year will be so different.  The conferences are different.  The playoffs are different.  Michigan in particular will be losing a very large number of guys, I hope to the NFL.

What I do know is that, in a handful of days, I will go back to being amazed that another college football season has come and gone seemingly so quickly.  And I will again be eagerly awaiting the start of the next one.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: sparky127 on January 09, 2024, 11:03:46 AM
Succinctly put, Brooke.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Eagler on January 09, 2024, 12:58:01 PM
Glad to see someone else besides Ohio,  Alabama or a team from Florida win it

Eagler
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Mano on January 09, 2024, 05:54:35 PM
I have been a Bama fan for a long time but I was glad to see Michigan win.
They are a great team and deserve to win.


Roll Tide.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: DmonSlyr on January 09, 2024, 05:55:09 PM
That went about exactly how I expected it to end up lol and I'm glad for Michigan winning after having to deal with this coach sign stealing fiasco.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Mano on January 12, 2024, 06:51:31 PM
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New coach y’all.
Roll Tide.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: Brooke on January 12, 2024, 10:19:50 PM
Poor damn Washington.

What a gut punch for them.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: xanax on January 12, 2024, 11:07:17 PM
Poor damn Washington.

What a gut punch for them.

I'll say.......night in the ruts...err....right in the nuts.
Title: Re: Collage Football thread.
Post by: sparky127 on January 13, 2024, 08:46:29 AM
They knew what they were getting into.