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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: uptown on May 03, 2024, 09:33:53 AM
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Make me a moderator so I can take out the trash please? :salute
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Make me a moderator so I can take out the trash please? :salute
Would you like me to report this post so he actually sees it? :noid :bolt: :neener:
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You mean you dont like to see the argument between a known cheater that was banned for cheating but still played using accounts that got around his ban and bragged about it, while also was recently caught red handed using shades on the boards to promote himself, and arguments from a different egotistical whackjob that thinks everything he says is right and anyone else who says different is claimed that they allow him to live rent free in their head while he controls their thoughts?
Must be desperate for sub money if people that bad are allowed to play
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Would you like me to report this post so he actually sees it? :noid :bolt: :neener:
Absolutely
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You mean you dont like to see the argument between a known cheater that was banned for cheating but still played using accounts that got around his ban and bragged about it, while also was recently caught red handed using shades on the boards to promote himself, and arguments from a different egotistical whackjob that thinks everything he says is right and anyone else who says different is claimed that they allow him to live rent free in their head while he controls their thoughts?
Must be desperate for sub money if people that bad are allowed to play
I understand your position, but this kind talk in an open public forum is not healthy nor productive to getting player subscriptions up. I'd like to change that.
Of coarse cheaters should be dealt with but that can't be done here. That has to come from the office. All this toxic banter does is throw an unfavorable and negative light on this game as a whole. Highlighting such allegations only makes matters worse. Can't y'all see that?
Getting this public forum back in shape would be a nice 1st step in that direction imo. Things went to hell after Skuzzy left.
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You mean you dont like to see the argument between a known cheater that was banned for cheating but still played using accounts that got around his ban and bragged about it, while also was recently caught red handed using shades on the boards to promote himself, and arguments from a different egotistical whackjob that thinks everything he says is right and anyone else who says different is claimed that they allow him to live rent free in their head while he controls their thoughts?
Must be desperate for sub money if people that bad are allowed to play
Joseph Goebbels for you on line 3...
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Were you here before Skuzzy showed up Uptown?
Things ran along fine, albeit it WAS the wild west in the forums pre Skuzzy, but the game grew at an incredible rate then, so laying off poor new player numbers on forum/in game arguments now that Skuzzy is gone, doesn't hold much water IMO.
While I'm sure Skuzzy meant well, the end result was losing as many, if not far more players due to his moderation than it kept, again IMO, due to people getting bent out of shape by being unjustly moderated in their eyes. There were hundreds and hundreds of players who left directly because of what they felt was unfair moderation, that's provable by all those who said so on other forums who left here. During the Skuzzy years, I don't recall ever seeing more than a small, very small handful who said they left because they heard some bad words or saw arguments not involving themselves (ie new players), and that if the game was properly moderated, they'd have stayed. The reverse was true, again hundreds upon hundreds left not due to the game itself, but due to being moderated in one form or another in the forums and/or the MA.
I'm sure you mean well Uptown, even in Skyyr et al's case, but if you ban him, you need to also ban those who have argued with him, started arguments with him first, and responded to his initiations of arguments. Based on the films I've watched Skyyr has been posting, there are more players initiating verbal combat with him, than he is beginning with them. That's a fact, and it's provable by watching his films.
So, to be an impartial arbiter of the rules in the MA, to "take out the garbage", you'll be muting/kicking out a dozen plus players, maybe as many as a couple dozen from what I've seen recorded in about 20+ hours of films. I'm not sure this game would survive that right now, it'd certainly drop the MA numbers by a significant and noticeable factor.
Are you ready to do that? Or do you just want to moderate/ban Skyyr and Vraciu, and give everyone else involved a walk even though they've broken the same rules? Skyyr's past actions aren't a factor, Dale wiped that and allowed him back into the game.
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I understand your position, but this kind talk in an open public forum is not healthy nor productive to getting player subscriptions up. I'd like to change that.
Of coarse cheaters should be dealt with but that can't be done here. That has to come from the office. All this toxic banter does is throw an unfavorable and negative light on this game as a whole. Highlighting such allegations only makes matters worse. Can't y'all see that?
Getting this public forum back in shape would be a nice 1st step in that direction imo. Things went to hell after Skuzzy left.
You would have to moderate every single bit of the forum since every section of it is 100% public. Need full time mod, not one that shows up every couple of weeks and especially not one that is biased politically or towards certain players. In all honestly, this game isnt going to be like it used to. Unless something drastic brings in numbers like a total revamp of the cost of the subs or something like a free to play, numbers arent going to get better but will slowly continually decline. And since the game is developably dead with nothing new ever coming again, it's going to slowly die off without outside support since ht has no apparent interest or desire other then to keep the server up so the money rolls in
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The solution is glaringly simple.
Simply add a political oriented comment to those forum threads you want to go away and Hitech will do his ZAP thing.
"Ukraine" is a pretty good starter <======== HINT
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You mean you dont like to see the argument between a known cheater that was banned for cheating but still played using accounts that got around his ban and bragged about it, while also was recently caught red handed using shades on the boards to promote himself, and arguments from a different egotistical whackjob that thinks everything he says is right and anyone else who says different is claimed that they allow him to live rent free in their head while he controls their thoughts?
Must be desperate for sub money if people that bad are allowed to play
1) kudos for Uptown’s good intentions.
2) you need a mirror. Pot-Kettle
3) former players are a problem, they contribute nothing yet vomit everywhere
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Right on Gman, I see what your saying. I too don't see anything fishy about Skydudes flying. I've watched him and flown against him. If I wasn't so rusty I could have sent him to the tower on a couple of occasions...matter of fact I did but got the assist...granted it took a Spixteen to do it. And that was day 2, so I'm not buying the cheating stuff either. Heck his K/D wasn't even 3.0 the last I looked! If I were a cheater or anyone for that matter, my K/D would be at least 10 to 1. I personally think his Track IR setting are his bread and butter. If you notice in his videos, he (SkyDude) rarely loses sight of his bandit. Good vision is key.
And no I wasn't here before Skuzzy. I came in about the time AoM's were terrorizing the BBS...SkyRock and all that crowd. It was bad then but not like now. Now something akin to dropping gear to shed E in the scissors is considered cheating now? :uhoh God forbid a guy uses duel throttles in a 38 :bolt:
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The solution is glaringly simple.
Simply add a political oriented comment to those forum threads you want to go away and Hitech will do his ZAP thing.
"Ukraine" is a pretty good starter <======== HINT
:rofl
I was shocked when I seen some of the O'club threads I have to admit. I like to keep my distance from those threads at all cost :bolt:
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Dale has always seemed to have the "let the boys play" attitude. He has never seen like he likes restrictions and rules other than the basics that make the game work. In the old days this was fine as most players were new to internet gaming and most of those were here to PLAY. It was well established that if you wanted the type of conversations we seem to have these days you went to a "chat room" or a BBS that allowed that type of conversation (flamewarriors.net). AH never let it get too out of line. Normal ribbing and trash talk was allowed to a point and this is where MODs stepped in.
Today internet gamers are a different breed. They dont "trash talk" they bully, threaten and demean from the safety of their computers. Its in all games. Owners are caught between moderating, and possibly losing a subscription by chasing away the bully, or not moderating and chasing away the one being bullied. A no win situation.
Our game is a small nitch game, and today there are other options so it is hard enough to keep the players we have. While I dont think our game is any worst than other games with the crap talk/bullying I dont think it is hurting it that bad as, unfortunately this is what gamers expect in a game these days anyway.
I wish that if Hitech doesnt want to be highly involved with the game as he use to that he would hire or appoint someone to keep an eye on things both here and in the game and report back to him weekly/monthly with a brief report of what going on. That way he doesnt have to spend the time he use to in game, but can still know whats going on. I dont know, maybe he is watching more than we think, but I doubt it as Im sure some things would have changed here or there.
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I think some of the chest pounding threads in general discussion are more game damaging than threads in o'club on global current events...
I don't think I have experienced anything like it in my > 23 years here...
Eagler
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My thinking may have flaws. Just looked at the O'Club and not a whack stick to be found. Dale has abandoned ship.
Remember the 1965 move, "Battle of Bulge"?....when the flaming barrel of burning fuel was rolling towards the fuel depot? Hee Hee :banana: :bolt:
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I wish that if Hitech doesnt want to be highly involved with the game as he use to that he would hire or appoint someone to keep an eye on things both here and in the game and report back to him weekly/monthly with a brief report of what going on. That way he doesnt have to spend the time he use to in game, but can still know whats going on. I dont know, maybe he is watching more than we think, but I doubt it as Im sure some things would have changed here or there.
That someone would likely demand some monetary compensation...so fat chance.
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Here you are stating 4-5 things about me that aren't even close to being accurate. I don't even know you nor have I posted about you, yet here you are telling people things that are blatantly untrue (even if there was no ill-intent).
Honestly, posts like these are getting tiring.
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None of that is important to me. You're not my mission. The hanger you take off from is. I'll be the 1st to tell you I can't fly worth a damn.
I was actually trying to defend you. :cheers: my bad
The last thing I want to do is engage in trading insults with one another. I won't do it. I'm not here to offend anyone.
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Game and forum have changed a lot during my time in here, which is not so long. And that change is really not positive. Looks like few individuals with their shades are trying to empty the MA and force Dale to close the whole thing. Personal revenge?
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I'll be a forum mod for a free account.
To support your vote I pledge;
Animl gets PNG.
Everybody wins and I get a free account.
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I'll be a forum mod for a free account.
To support your vote I pledge;
Animl gets PNG.
Everybody wins and I get a free account.
Long overdue.
The Skyrr fan club can be down right annoying but they're essentially harmless.
Animal will straight up threaten people that don't RESPECT HIS AUTHORITAH!!!!>!>!>!!!!
Maybe a PNG will make him go play DCS and leave us alone.
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Long overdue.
The Skyrr fan club can be down right annoying but they're essentially harmless.
Animal will straight up threaten people that don't RESPECT HIS AUTHORITAH!!!!>!>!>!!!!
Maybe a PNG will make him go play DCS and leave us alone.
carful tryhard I'll let everyone that you are a card carrying member of the skyyr fan club you were spotted at the meeting last week :rofl :devil
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3) former players are a problem, they contribute nothing yet vomit everywhere
I respectfully disagree with this statement. While there are a select few that fit that description, it is unfair to lump all former players in one category.
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Based on the films I've watched Skyyr has been posting, there are more players initiating verbal combat with him, than he is beginning with them. That's a fact, and it's provable by watching his films.
Based off 5 or 10 minute snippets… Would you ever post a film of yourself behaving poorly to others?
If you have extra time I have dozens of hours of film where that is not the case for your review. I saw you last night and he was on the best behavior (Ch 200 trolling wise) I’ve witnessed this year. More so, as of late his Ch 200 is considerably toned down :headscratch. Go figure… I have no idea what it’s like when I’m not in the MA, the same is true for most (unless they have access to chat logs).
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Based off 5 or 10 minute snippets… Would you ever post a film of yourself behaving poorly to others?
If you have extra time I have dozens of hours of film where that is not the case for your review. I saw you last night and he was on the best behavior (Ch 200 trolling wise) I’ve witnessed this year. More so, as of late his Ch 200 is considerably toned down :headscratch. Go figure… I have no idea what it’s like when I’m not in the MA, the same is true for most (unless they have access to chat logs).
Nah, you're just a schizophrenic liar; you purposely misrepresent yourself as a victim while actively and openly stating lies.
Just one of about 9 examples I have of you from the last 3 months:
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,409219.msg5422372.html#msg5422372
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=404990.0;attach=37427
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=404990.0;attach=37425
And don't get me started on you spamming 200 for WEEKS about people running to ack, calling players names, only to have you do nothing but run to ack yourself.
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Rooks can thank SkiShills and I for keeping those ack factories supplied :D
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Based off 5 or 10 minute snippets… Would you ever post a film of yourself behaving poorly to others?
If you have extra time I have dozens of hours of film where that is not the case for your review. I saw you last night and he was on the best behavior (Ch 200 trolling wise) I’ve witnessed this year. More so, as of late his Ch 200 is considerably toned down :headscratch. Go figure… I have no idea what it’s like when I’m not in the MA, the same is true for most (unless they have access to chat logs).
I was in the MA for all of 2 minutes, the only 2 minutes in the last 5 years. I'm talking about the vids on his YT channel. Granted, you MAY have a point about posting only non incriminating vids, but Skyyr's vids aren't 5 or 10 minutes, the one's I've watched are hours long, some a couple/few hours long. I'd say a good 24hours worth I've watched, probably more. I'll speed them up usually when fights aren't happening, but whenever I see Skyyr's name in 200/whatever I slow it down and read what's been said.
If you have current video to prove otherwise/your point, post the links here, I'll watch them.
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Someone obviously doesn’t understand what I meant when I said I was done with him HERE.
I’m nowhere near reconsidering that; post to me, about me all you like I’m keeping you on IGNORE until your MA trolling, ridiculing and griefing stop.
If perma squelch existed he’d be on it in the MA.
Since ignoring some have brought things to my attention, few worthwhile to give more than 30 seconds thought.
:airplane:
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translation: he got caught lying and doesn't have anything he claims to. Gee I wonder why.
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Someone obviously doesn’t understand what I meant when I said I was done with him HERE.
I’m nowhere near reconsidering that; post to me, about me all you like I’m keeping you on IGNORE until your MA trolling, ridiculing and griefing stop.
If perma squelch existed he’d be on it in the MA.
Since ignoring some have brought things to my attention, few worthwhile to give more than 30 seconds thought.
:airplane:
Make a macro for that squelch. That’s what had to do.
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I was in the MA for all of 2 minutes, the only 2 minutes in the last 5 years. I'm talking about the vids on his YT channel. Granted, you MAY have a point about posting only non incriminating vids, but Skyyr's vids aren't 5 or 10 minutes, the one's I've watched are hours long, some a couple/few hours long. I'd say a good 24hours worth I've watched, probably more. I'll speed them up usually when fights aren't happening, but whenever I see Skyyr's name in 200/whatever I slow it down and read what's been said.
If you have current video to prove otherwise/your point, post the links here, I'll watch them.
I’m certainly willing to do that but in a separate thread. Many of my films are hours long, I’ll have to zip or compress and get them uploaded here. Other than ones targeting me specifically, I’m not going to watch them again anytime soon, but they’re named aptly.
Re: the others I’ll wait for HT when I send him the compiled harassment (of others) folder.
It matters to me because I want HTC/AH3 to be here for years to come, griefing turns off probably 5 players for every one that will stand up and object to it.
You can see I’m fairly observant if I can recall seeing your name for less than 2 mins when it was mid/end prime time hours yesterday.
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I respectfully disagree with this statement. While there are a select few that fit that description, it is unfair to lump all former players in one category.
Bad wording on my part.
Depends
As for the haters, they cause undue drama everywhere. They just don’t like the reality of how they make themselves appear., and dragging down the bbs doing it. I cam cough up 30-40 pages of Dolby and Trips doing it, hell they did it to me for 6 mos. Not listening to his belly aching while ignoring his own endless spewings on our dime. It’s not like I’m the only who read his 2-3x15 pages attacks on me. Because of s bideo snd 30 telling him to toejam it, despite I borrowed clips from others who approved. Even HT called me and warning me about his past drama before my return.. Again, former players with no stake in the game. He hands down got what he paid for on all occasions, same with Trips. You bought it, you own it. When it coms to those two habitually harassing me, I sleep well.
I apologize for bad wording and encompassing the innocent
Thanks for pointing it out. My bad.
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Make me a moderator so I can take out the trash please? :salute
who is this mortal who dares to ask such a request? :x