Maybe you can turn a period into a thread about other sims
Grow up
Gosh Animl, you don't seem shy about stopping by other peoples threads to grace them with your particular...charms. Did you not appreciate the courtesy being returned?
I thought everyone was having a good time with the discussion.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: RichardDarkwood on July 04, 2024, 08:53:44 AM
dude literally started a thread called other sims
LOL
drinking earlier and earlier
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Meatwad on July 04, 2024, 10:04:25 AM
https://www.goatsimulator3.com/
Didnt specify flight
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: CptTrips on July 04, 2024, 10:13:49 AM
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: GasTeddy on July 04, 2024, 01:42:57 PM
Ooo yeah!
This (https://store.steampowered.com/app/2059090/Sanatorium__A_Mental_Asylum_Simulator/) might be suitable!
Or, maybe we go in here, (https://choppypine.itch.io/drug-simulator-v10) just to understand.
I do not have experience or Slavic blood, so this might help to expand experiences... (https://store.steampowered.com/app/2631500/Slav_Junkie_Simulator/)
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: CptTrips on July 04, 2024, 02:17:25 PM
:noid :noid :noid
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: AKIron on July 04, 2024, 02:52:52 PM
Here ya go. Have an "other" sim video. Hot off the burner.
Enjoy the fireworks!
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: LCADolby on July 04, 2024, 04:43:43 PM
I think the technical term for that is, "Mic Drop".
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Lusche on July 04, 2024, 08:38:53 PM
Currently my favourite Sim:
(https://i.imgur.com/rJSkh06.png)
Egbert Breulich. Painter of kitsch, writer of conspiracy theory pamphlets and 'spicy' novels, unmarried father of three daughters (he only ever sees one of them) from different women and increasingly suffering from anger issues. :rock
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: xanax on July 04, 2024, 08:55:57 PM
Egbert Breulich. Painter of kitsch, writer of conspiracy theory pamphlets and 'spicy' novels, unmarried father of three daughters (he only ever sees one of them) from different women and increasingly suffering from anger issues. :rock
He's got a big gut. Get him on the treadmill and cut out the fast food and booze asap. It'll help with the angst and better his resolve to paint subjects other than kitsch. Perhaps scintillating cover art for his spicy novels.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: AKIron on July 05, 2024, 10:39:40 AM
I tried War Thunder once, briefly. Not really interested in games that are sim like. But, 15kmx15km?
Oh. So I guess when I tried WT one weekend, I didn't try Sim mode.
Has any one here? Thoughts?
I too, installed this behemoth to give it a go but I couldn't figure out how to get to Sim mode. I ended up in that no realism, 5 minute furball thingie. It reminded me of AW relaxed realism except most were flying in 3rd person. It was terrible so I shut it off and told myself I'd study up on how to jump over all that crap and get to the full realism or Sim mode via YouTube and whatnot but I have yet to do it after 3 months. The working your way up through the plane set grind thing isn't appealing. Graphics were good and didn't tax my rig while the setup interface was very confusing and scattered. It took quite some time to get the joystick up and functional. I don't want to grind through plane sets and "unlock" features with "credits." Let me buy the plane I want and let me just suck at flying it until I can finally kill something and I'll go from there. I'd rather pay a premium over nickel and dime grinding to the stuff I want. I'll eventually give it another shot at some point but currently, I'm trying to re-learn AH and dipping a toe in IL-2 when I get time.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 12, 2024, 09:53:28 AM
I too, installed this behemoth to give it a go but I couldn't figure out how to get to Sim mode. I ended up in that no realism, 5 minute furball thingie. It reminded me of AW relaxed realism except most were flying in 3rd person. It was terrible so I shut it off and told myself I'd study up on how to jump over all that crap and get to the full realism or Sim mode via YouTube and whatnot but I have yet to do it after 3 months. The working your way up through the plane set grind thing isn't appealing. Graphics were good and didn't tax my rig while the setup interface was very confusing and scattered. It took quite some time to get the joystick up and functional. I don't want to grind through plane sets and "unlock" features with "credits." Let me buy the plane I want and let me just suck at flying it until I can finally kill something and I'll go from there. I'd rather pay a premium over nickel and dime grinding to the stuff I want. I'll eventually give it another shot at some point but currently, I'm trying to re-learn AH and dipping a toe in IL-2 when I get time.
I've been watching YouTube videos and writing down the processes. WW2 planes are actually quite easy. It's takes about 1 minute really once you get it. Engine management aint hard. IMO, more worth it to fly DCS for realism experience than WT. I would use AH to focus on ACM and open combat SA understanding in the planes.. DCS is more of a sim with regards to plane operation management and learning processes of planes and attacks for combat. I haven't played IL2 that much yet but it would seem like a middle ground sorta though I still think it's easier to see planes in AH than both Il2 and WT. Playing DCS for an hour and then switching to AH does sorta feel like going back in time. AH still has great playability though when the time is right and fights are cooking.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: xanax on July 12, 2024, 10:16:42 AM
I've been watching YouTube videos and writing down the processes. WW2 planes are actually quite easy. It's takes about 1 minute really once you get it. Engine management aint hard. IMO, more worth it to fly DCS for realism experience than WT. I would use AH to focus on ACM and open combat SA understanding in the planes.. DCS is more of a sim with regards to plane operation management and learning processes of planes and attacks for combat.
Yeah, that's pretty much the roadmap I'm using. I figure ACM are ACM and are the same in any sim but there's no better spot to hone them than AH. SA will get better with time here too. The plane operation aspects you speak of are actually intriguing to me and are big reasons I purchased IL-2 and DCS. I'll get there. I'd like to see you produce some vids on your progression through all of that-the live gameplay streams too. They'd be good and helpful for anyone interested in this stuff for sure.
WT is probably too weird for me but I like to keep tabs on all sims.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: LCADolby on July 12, 2024, 10:28:00 AM
I enjoy IL2-BoS for the multiplayer with my long suffering wingman (Deadstikmac), it's simple and the action is generally easy to find. I wish for many of AH features but God doesn't give with both hands. I enjoy the engine management, it's added flavour.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: AKIron on July 12, 2024, 01:21:43 PM
Someone mention DCS?
Really big patch yesterday. A new function I can't make work but I did find a pretty easy workaround to set your aircraft AB detent to match your physical throttle.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: xanax on July 12, 2024, 02:14:43 PM
I enjoy IL2-BoS for the multiplayer with my long suffering wingman (Deadstikmac), it's simple and the action is generally easy to find. I wish for many of AH features but God doesn't give with both hands. I enjoy the engine management, it's added flavour.
Yup, I enjoy your vids.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: CptTrips on July 12, 2024, 02:23:26 PM
I enjoy IL2-BoS for the multiplayer with my long suffering wingman (Deadstikmac), it's simple and the action is generally easy to find. I wish for many of AH features but God doesn't give with both hands. I enjoy the engine management, it's added flavour.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: LCADolby on July 12, 2024, 02:47:56 PM
Bugger, thanks Trips :D
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: GasTeddy on July 12, 2024, 04:09:38 PM
^ Which server is this?
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: xanax on July 12, 2024, 05:01:51 PM
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: AKIron on July 12, 2024, 05:06:11 PM
I uploaded a couple of videos to youtube recently and found uploading them from the main youtube page was near instant for the processing which normally takes a while when I upload them from "my videos" page. Don't know if that was just a coincidence but if you upload many try that.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: -gg- on July 12, 2024, 05:17:26 PM
Egbert Breulich. Painter of kitsch, writer of conspiracy theory pamphlets and 'spicy' novels, unmarried father of three daughters (he only ever sees one of them) from different women and increasingly suffering from anger issues. :rock
looks pretty gay. lol.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: RichardDarkwood on July 13, 2024, 10:10:11 AM
https://youtu.be/mwpb6YOJ2L0?feature=shared
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: LCADolby on July 13, 2024, 11:45:12 AM
tried VR for the first time last week and was left speechless at the Spitfire cockpit in DCS. :ahand
will have to give AH a bash too when time allows.
The graphics are mind blowing in dcs
VR in AH is a blast too..better as you can still use your stick views in vr helping us with stiff older necks..
Eagler
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: AKIron on July 23, 2024, 07:29:27 AM
There're apps to give you an offset view on command for VR. Adds an extra 45, 90, or whatever degree offset (configurable) while you press and hold a button. Turn your head to the left looking at the wing, press the button, now you're looking straight back. Release the button, now you're looking at the wing again.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: CptTrips on July 23, 2024, 08:08:57 AM
There're apps to give you an offset view on command for VR. Adds an extra 45, 90, or whatever degree offset (configurable) while you press and hold a button. Turn your head to the left looking at the wing, press the button, now you're looking straight back. Release the button, now you're looking at the wing again.
There's another by the same guy for OpenXR games called XRNeckSafer. It's more polished than VRNeckSafer working more like TIR does. Thing to remember is--the apps aren't interchangeable. VRNeckSafer ONLY works with SteamVR, XRNeckSafer ONLY works with native OpenXR games (DCS is one of those) or OpenComposite which "tricks" Steam games into using OpenXR although OpenComposite isn't compatible with every game out there. Unfortunately, AH isn't compatible with that. I've used VRNeckSafer with AH but something happened with an update somewhere along the line that messed it up. Haven't messed with AH in a while so havne't figured out what it was.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Spikes on July 23, 2024, 12:32:04 PM
Necksafer isn't required for AH because the hat switches work by default in AH.
Curious what you mean by 'working more like TIR does'? I've never used TIR. Tried to use OpenComposite with IL2 once but it didn't work straight away and I didn't troubleshoot much.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: AKIron on July 23, 2024, 05:57:38 PM
TrackIR allows you to add a curve to each of the 6 axes. Looks like XRnecksafer allows the same. An example could be linear motion through every axis up to 90 degrees or specific distance from center. Beyond that you get 2 degrees for 1 in the next 10 degrees, then 4 to 1 for the next 10, etc...
I would think that would be no more disorienting than an immediate switch to a rear view or whatever.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: CptTrips on July 24, 2024, 04:16:48 PM
:rofl
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: AKIron on July 24, 2024, 04:41:16 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Vulcan on July 24, 2024, 05:52:34 PM
TrackIR allows you to add a curve to each of the 6 axes. Looks like XRnecksafer allows the same. An example could be linear motion through every axis up to 90 degrees or specific distance from center. Beyond that you get 2 degrees for 1 in the next 10 degrees, then 4 to 1 for the next 10, etc...
I would think that would be no more disorienting than an immediate switch to a rear view or whatever.
I used to use VR in AH2 like that. It worked well and was not disorientating at all. I did pester HT for it in AH3s native VR support but he said no.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: LCADolby on July 26, 2024, 09:42:58 PM
AcesHigh has a superior way to make films, but I tried a bit for this one
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: CptTrips on July 26, 2024, 11:10:52 PM
AcesHigh has a superior way to make films, but I tried a bit for this one
Brilliant.
If a dev is smart, they'd rank their film playback/camera control/ recording almost as important as the sim itself. It ought be be movie quality camera control capability. That capability will pay back dividends 100 fold in hundreds of thousands dollars in free advertising by unleashing armies of film creators producing free advertising.
I need to give IL2 another try, maybe this winter. The FM didn't strike me quite as good as DCS though and its hard to give that feeling up even though everyone admits IL2 has better MP.
I own them all I think. Collecting dust in my Steam library.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: xanax on July 26, 2024, 11:53:19 PM
Good flick! A nice edit despite the limitations.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: LCADolby on July 27, 2024, 08:58:20 AM
Cheers chaps, it makes the time spend cursing at the damn thing worth while :rock
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Animl-AW on July 29, 2024, 09:13:30 AM
I too, installed this behemoth to give it a go but I couldn't figure out how to get to Sim mode. I ended up in that no realism, 5 minute furball thingie. It reminded me of AW relaxed realism except most were flying in 3rd person. It was terrible so I shut it off and told myself I'd study up on how to jump over all that crap and get to the full realism or Sim mode via YouTube and whatnot but I have yet to do it after 3 months. The working your way up through the plane set grind thing isn't appealing. Graphics were good and didn't tax my rig while the setup interface was very confusing and scattered. It took quite some time to get the joystick up and functional. I don't want to grind through plane sets and "unlock" features with "credits." Let me buy the plane I want and let me just suck at flying it until I can finally kill something and I'll go from there. I'd rather pay a premium over nickel and dime grinding to the stuff I want. I'll eventually give it another shot at some point but currently, I'm trying to re-learn AH and dipping a toe in IL-2 when I get time.
I find learning more than one sim at a time is kinda fubar. Too much to learn in each one. IMO one becomes jack of all sims, master of none.
Too much to learn, setup conflicts, idiosyncrasies and keeping them all separate. Too much work to ever become one with one sim.
Seems like a lot of test driving, but no camps setup. In these other sims it seems everyone is still learning, still kinda amateurs. Where in AH 95% have mastered the game and the fights are more in depth. Its more about battling over time consuming learning.
So I guess that puts me as a one track train. Doesn’t matter the sim/game. I want to master one rather than get a headache and disappointments on several.
In AH i can get up, find many fights, and get my Ya yas out. If I have time to enjoy the modern graphics that means not much is going on but sightseeing. Kinda like s kid with his first Playboy.
IL-2 is the closest to what I like, but again I’m of the MasterOneGameAtATime tribe.
Eye candy doesn’t mean a damn thing to me if I’m not dogfighting and dying.
If ya want to fly against and learn from the best AH seems to be the place to be.
IMO, to me, other sims are all wretch and no vomit.
Flying against solo AI AC is a turnoff. Thats for players who are more interested in graphics and cockpits than actually dogfighting. As if dogfighting is last on the list, AH its #1
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: CptTrips on July 29, 2024, 10:41:06 AM
Those of you who feel Aces High is superior to all other sims, ought to be on Hoggit making that case. Hoggit is pretty much considered the epicenter for combat flightsim discussion at the moment.
Merely hiding in your echo chamber safe-space bubble, only preaching to your own choir, does nothing to expand your reach; and frankly smacks of fear of rejection.
BTW, there was a guy on Enigma's discord that I think I convinced to comeback to AH for another try. Can't remember his handle now. He had been a former player. I was (gasp) praising AH for some of the things it does do better compared to DCS and Il2 and 1946 and he was reminiscing and said, "Man, if AH ever supported VR I might have to give it another try. " So he was excited to hear that it had added it since he was last there and I made the case (which I honestly believe) that in my opinion AH in fact has one of the best VR implementation in the industry. I know he downloaded the trial. Don't know if he has gone online yet. I suggested he get all his controls tweaks and get AI practice offline before going online and starting his trial clock.
Some of you people might try crawling out of your hermit shell a little. There is a whole world out there. There are things in other sims AH could learn from, and a lot other sims could learn from AH.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Animl-AW on July 29, 2024, 11:22:10 AM
Those of you who feel Aces High is superior to all other sims, ought to be on Hoggit making that case. Hoggit is pretty much considered the epicenter for combat flightsim discussion at the moment.
Merely hiding in your echo chamber safe-space bubble, only preaching to your own choir, does nothing to expand your reach; and frankly smacks of fear of rejection.
BTW, there was a guy on Enigma's discord that I think I convinced to comeback to AH for another try. Can't remember his handle now. He had been a former player. I was (gasp) praising AH for some of the things it does do better compared to DCS and Il2 and 1946 and he was reminiscing and said, "Man, if AH ever supported VR I might have to give it another try. " So he was excited to hear that it had added it since he was last there and I made the case (which I honestly believe) that in my opinion AH in fact has one of the best VR implementation in the industry. I know he downloaded the trial. Don't know if he has gone online yet. I suggested he get all his controls tweaks and get AI practice offline before going online and starting his trial clock.
Some of you people might try crawling out of your hermit shell a little. There is a whole world out there. There are things in other sims AH could learn from, and a lot other sims could learn from AH.
Not much I can disagree with here. But, from how you presented that site before, it just sounds like of flame fest. I doubt much actually gets settled or accomplished. Taking old graphics into a flame fest of modern eye candy could hurt more than help. Kinda what was done on Steam. A bunch of leap-froggers who spend 15 minutes in a game and think they are the authority of all games as they spend 15 min in another. Thats not the crowd we want. We got that from steam and commercials.
Its the adrenaline of the MA concept of AH other sims have a hard time beating, even with old graphics. I’m biased, but its always they have this, they have that, but always ends with AH has the most action fun.
Sad part about sims, not one has everything, always a hole in the design.
What it would take for full throttle bliss is if the top 3 sims merged, an MA would need to play a roll.
Totally agree with thinking outside the box/bubble. Why it doesn’t matter to me the views on a video if it’s all my own tribe viewing. I was hoping some would share good videos on outside sites. They do no good if they are not, at the mercy of YT searches,
During a long convo with HT, his big thing is he tried EVERYTHING to get people to play and is just drained on new ideas. That is what inspired me. I never throw in the towel.
AH has a lot of life, however its a biosphere, so contained its become cult-like. An isolated gem. One person like me trying to reach outside the box can only barely move the needle. Negative post snd lack if advertisement is our enemy.
Many are such doomsayers, negative, hopeless, that its hard to get anyone on board with anything. Ya just can’t post hopelessness on the bbs and expect outside readers to want to jump in. As I’ve stated, its demise lays in its own players, more so disgruntled former players spreading poison as designed.
Fly all sims, but it doesn’t matter to AH if they are not in the MA. Everything is based on MA numbers. Numbers breed numbers ESPECIALLY with AH, more so than other sims.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: CptTrips on July 29, 2024, 11:39:53 AM
Quote
Taking old graphics into a flame fest of modern eye candy could hurt more than help.
Which is one of the reason why trying to promote AH through cinematic videos is a complete waste of time.
Frankly, of all it's features, showing it graphically, no matter the editing, probably does more harm than good because that is absolutely not it's best feature. It can not compete and actually is anti-advertising.
But merely hiding in your comfort zone, preaching to your own choir will also never add a single new play. What you are really saying, is that you don't think your argument, that AH is superior beyond the surface level graphics, is as strong as you like to pretend it is.
Numbers can breed numbers, which is why some of us had suggested trying to learn from WT and how it uses F2P planes (you don't need to adopt micro-transactions) to maintain population critical mass while they are slowly converting F2P players to paying should be considered more seriously than it has.
But that just goes on a pile of ideas that get rejected out of hand and labeled not worth considering. And nothing changes. Ever. Yet people expect the outcome to suddenly change and reverse trend on its own. With no changes to anything. As if by magic.
What you call being negative, others call merely being bluntly honest. When the truth is negative, you don't shrink from it. You face it. In the history of mankind, blind wishful thinking and slavish submission to cult group-think has never solved a single problem.
You can't solve a problem you won't admit exists, and a problem well defined is a problem half solved.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Animl-AW on July 29, 2024, 12:02:52 PM
Which is one of the reason why trying to promote AH through cinematic videos is a complete waste of time.
Frankly, of all it's features, showing it graphically, no matter the editing, probably does more harm than good because that is absolutely not it's best feature. It can not compete and actually is anti-advertising.
But merely hiding in your comfort zone, preaching to your own choir will also never add a single new play. What you are really saying, is that you don't think your argument, that AH is superior beyond the surface level graphics, is as strong as you like to pretend it is.
Numbers can breed numbers, which is why some of us had suggested trying to learn from WT and how it uses F2P planes (you don't need to adopt micro-transactions) to maintain population critical mass while they are slowly converting F2P players to paying should be considered more seriously than it has.
But that just goes on a pile of ideas that get rejected out of hand and labeled not worth considering. And nothing changes. Ever. Yet people expect the outcome to suddenly change and reverse trend on its own. With no changes to anything. As if by magic.
What you call being negative, others call merely being bluntly honest. When the truth is negative, you don't shrink from it. You face it.
Some half-truths here and both have mere opinions. Marketing is a science, and if anyone thinks they have all the right answers would also be a billionaire.
So your concept a seems to be show no videos only words? Many in marketing would very quickly disagree, no showing graphics and what they could look forward to and expect is dishonest. They come, the feel let down more so then if they were not built up with words. My videos are about the battles that exist, not the graphics. If I saw the video of an crowded event full of action I want to be a part of it.
Think about this. The first time many of us stepped into AW arena, it only took 10 min to get hooked for 30 yrs. The action of all humans had s as bigger draw than the graphics.
Neither one of us are totally right. Over confident in our opinions locks us down to not listen. A lot of talk/opinion, no one listening.
A man who believes he knows it all stops learning, because in their opinion of themselves they already know it all.
This is why meetings and boards exist, more ideas than just one man thinking.
Neither of us is wrong nor right.
If its a great idea in that form then take responsibility for the idea and do just that. Implement your own ideas. When we see positive results, we’ll join in. Just sayin, no offense.
Reality.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: CptTrips on July 29, 2024, 12:15:54 PM
If its a great idea in that form then take responsibility for the idea and do just that. Implement your own ideas. When we see positive results, we’ll join in. Just sayin, no offense.
I don't have the source so my ideas can't be player implemented.
As far as evangelism, I call it like I see it. I spend as much time discussing AH's flaws.
And I have to admit up front, that I myself don't have an active account. There are legitimate reasons for that. One of which is that just after 20 years I got bored. Regardless, that greatly weakens my argument.
The evangelism needs to come from those who are active account holders. It is a weak argument for me to tell people the subscription might be worth it to them, if I'm telling them it isn't actually worth it to me at the moment. And if those who do have an active account can't be bothered to lift a finger to go out and spread the word, why should anyone else bother?
But I get it. It feels safer to just preach to the choir in the bubble and give each other high-fives every time you insult other sims that are still growing and expanding.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Mayhem on July 29, 2024, 01:39:09 PM
There's another by the same guy for OpenXR games called XRNeckSafer. It's more polished than VRNeckSafer working more like TIR does. Thing to remember is--the apps aren't interchangeable. VRNeckSafer ONLY works with SteamVR, XRNeckSafer ONLY works with native OpenXR games (DCS is one of those) or OpenComposite which "tricks" Steam games into using OpenXR although OpenComposite isn't compatible with every game out there. Unfortunately, AH isn't compatible with that. I've used VRNeckSafer with AH but something happened with an update somewhere along the line that messed it up. Haven't messed with AH in a while so havne't figured out what it was.
I'm going to pass this along ... Damned Renegade has Been having a heck of a time getting VRNeckSafer to work in DCS, and he is getting old and rickety.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Animl-AW on July 29, 2024, 01:56:23 PM
I don't have the source so my ideas can't be player implemented.
As far as evangelism, I call it like I see it. I spend as much time discussing AH's flaws.
And I have to admit up front, that I myself don't have an active account. There are legitimate reasons for that. One of which is that just after 20 years I got bored. Regardless, that greatly weakens my argument.
The evangelism needs to come from those who are active account holders. It is a weak argument for me to tell people the subscription might be worth it to them, if I'm telling them it isn't actually worth it to me at the moment. And if those who do have an active account can't be bothered to lift a finger to go out and spread the word, why should anyone else bother?
But I get it. It feels safer to just preach to the choir in the bubble and give each other high-fives every time you insult other sims that are still growing and expanding.
Well, stop squinting your eyes, you don’t always see clearly. Lole I said before, sat in at my job to talking head semi ars I have to sign NDAs for. Many times they speak of great ideas, they thought hiw can it not work, and then it flops on its face. The goal post is constantly moving, wrong audiences are approached, ad was inferior. These people from all over the world pay 2-3 million to have meetings and semi ars to figure out, what went wron, ehat went right, and who has the next idea. Ya kinda contradict yourself ehen saying videos are free advertisement, followed by don’t show them.
You guys are a good example of over-selling a product. You keave key valid issues out. This builds someone up, then when they find out what was nit mentioned they are more let down thsn if they just stumbled on it and heard nothing. The new customer is not as valued as the return customer. Building them up for a let down has wirse results in the long run. Its when its better than they thought are the ones who return.
My making cinematic videos is a hobby that causes no harm. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
We will never have 500 in an arena again, but 200-300 is better than 90-112. Its not the holy grail. And firmer player will have 90% negative things to say anyway. Not great consultants.
<shrug>
I’m not putting my name on someone elses questionable ideas, thats their job.
Why would I take an idea from someone who admits to slamming AH most of the time? Thats bat-sht-crazy
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: CptTrips on July 29, 2024, 01:58:03 PM
Well, stop squinting your eyes, you don’t always see clearly. Lole I said before, sat in at my job to talking head semi ars I have to sign NDAs for. Many times they speak of great ideas, they thought hiw can it not work, and then it flops on its face. The goal post is constantly moving, wrong audiences are approached, ad was inferior. These people from all over the world pay 2-3 million to have meetings and semi ars to figure out, what went wron, ehat went right, and who has the next idea. Ya kinda contradict yourself ehen saying videos are free advertisement, followed by don’t show them.
You guys are a good example of over-selling a product. You keave key valid issues out. This builds someone up, then when they find out what was nit mentioned they are more let down thsn if they just stumbled on it and heard nothing. The new customer is not as valued as the return customer. Building them up for a let down has wirse results in the long run. Its when its better than they thought are the ones who return.
My making cinematic videos is a hobby that causes no harm. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
We will never have 500 in an arena again, but 200-300 is better than 90-112. Its not the holy grail. And firmer player will have 90% negative things to say anyway. Not great consultants.
<shrug>
OK, genius. Let me know when you have 300 players back in the arena. I'll open an account.
Heck, let me know when you reliably hit even 250.
But without changing something, nothing will change. Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: AKIron on July 29, 2024, 02:57:49 PM
Wait a minute. This thread is about "other sims". Talking about Aces High is off topic.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: AKIron on July 29, 2024, 03:04:27 PM
Helping a coworker get started in DCS. Yes, I still work a few hours a week from home. FWIW I told him about Aces High too. He isn't interested. Youngster though, only 47.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: CptTrips on July 29, 2024, 03:10:53 PM
Thats what EVERYONE knows you WERE doing. You’re such a horrific liar, you talk in nonsense circles contradicting yourself. Frankly, you’re just full of sht, the epic dweeb. As mentioned by more than me, you wouldn’t be missed. Now you snd your flower boy get back to holding gands and frolic in your flowers together, neither of you can handle me on your own. Wiyh trips it has to be a gang bang because he’s weak snd easoly called out.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: CptTrips on July 29, 2024, 03:24:59 PM
Thats what EVERYONE knows you WERE doing. You’re such a horrific liar, you talk in nonsense circles contradicting yourself. Frankly, you’re just full of sht, the epic dweeb. As mentioned by more than me, you wouldn’t be missed. Now you snd your flower boy get back to holding gands and frolic in your flowers together, neither of you can handle me on your own. Wiyh trips it has to be a gang bang because he’s weak snd easoly called out.
You're on a roll now!
Pour another shot.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: CptTrips on July 29, 2024, 03:35:49 PM
Helping a coworker get started in DCS. Yes, I still work a few hours a week from home. FWIW I told him about Aces High too. He isn't interested. Youngster though, only 47.
Bottom line, without significant changes of some kind, I see no feasible way to bring a material number of new players into AH.
Like the guy on Enigma's discord, I only see the possibility of reactivating previous players for one last merry-go-round.
But why would they come back? They are going to ask what has changed? If they've been gone long enough, there is VR. Updated graphics in 2018.
But I think you need something more. Like maybe a 1 month "welcome back" trial for previous account holders or something. Something. Anything. HTC, would probably have the emails and be in the best position to approach those previous players with a new deal. Something. Anything. Lift a finger. Move the needle.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Animl-AW on July 29, 2024, 03:46:45 PM
20 yrs? In your own words you quit 9 yrs ago. Its only 25 yrs old. See, you csn’t be taken seriously because you embellish a lot.
Kinda like you guys sell a game and hide the big issues. You’re never honest
Fish on!
I've come and gone many times over the years under different handles.
Last time was 2018 until hmmm 2020.
Was intrigued to try the War Online: Pacific and maybe a breath of fresh air. Nope. That was a mistake.
And I occasionally play with the ME and build things for me to play myself offline.
But you go girl. Pour another shot.
I've kept touch with the sim to see if anything further will change. I've been trying to root for HTC since 1999. But I don't sugar coat for anyone and I don't join cults. And I don't just pay rent for games that have decided to stop all development. But hope springs eternal.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Mayhem on July 29, 2024, 04:55:39 PM
Are we posting about "other sims" Or AH?
Since the OP wants to talk about AH now, lets talk about AH ....
ENY Side-Balance issue ever get solved?
I was here for the auto swap thingy that was a real feces fest but my undertanding is that the best work around right now is to make and pay for 3 susbcritions, parking each sub on a diferent side and log into that sub when side balance goes south and you want to change sides to fly your favorite ride.
While having 2 extra shade accounts was frowned upon for cheating/spying, I'm guessing HT is OK with it these days, Lets be honest it's a bonus welfare check.
have we ever gotten an Auto/perma squelch?
Last new plane/ship/vehicle?
When was the last true functional feature added to AH?
I'm guessing it was a autoside swap feces fest that came out back in 2019/2020ish.
I hear just keeping the server on and online have become somewhat of an issue as of late.
I'm not going to ask about the graphics engine.
What exactly does AH offer the new player to draw them in that they can't get elsewhere that's either better or cheaper?
What exactly is going to bring back old players that have aleady given up on AH and moved on?
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Eagler on July 30, 2024, 06:58:54 AM
I think when it cost more than it brings in or the investment isn't worth the time..we will get the doors are closing email and all this noise will stop..
Try to enjoy it while you can
Eagler
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: CptTrips on July 30, 2024, 09:05:33 AM
But I think you need something more. Like maybe a 1 month "welcome back" trial for previous account holders or something. Something. Anything. HTC, would probably have the emails and be in the best position to approach those previous players with a new deal. Something. Anything. Lift a finger. Move the needle.
Case in point. I just got a email yesterday from WWIIOnline trying to entice me back.
This isn't spam in the sense at one time I did give them my email by choice. I had done a trial. That gives us a past relationship. That doesn't qualify as random spam.
That must have been 15 years ago. LoL. I hope HTC has actually kept past players emails. In this case its no sale, but I was never really a player there and they are not really offering me any sweetener to give them another try, but good on them for lifting a finger and making an effort. I can unsubscribe if it bothers me.
Sometimes you just have to flat out ASK for the sale instead of waiting for customers to come to you.
$0.02.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: AKIron on July 30, 2024, 02:41:04 PM
Son and I played a little of that. The ground war was fun. The air war was just funny.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: AKIron on July 30, 2024, 02:43:06 PM
We enjoyed this one too.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: CptTrips on July 30, 2024, 03:36:07 PM
I used to have soooo much fun playing this one. Sim? No. Fun? Heck yeah!
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Animl-AW on August 01, 2024, 04:48:43 AM
Not even reading the replies. Funny part is, I was talking to Xanax and you guys hit rewind on nonsense. Reminds me of ol biddies in a small town, looking for drama to have something to talk about. Making little off yhe wall comments into your drama fix. Ya pick my hap hazard words that mean nothing to normal people, yet trips talks about something he has no experience with, I only have a little, and turns it into a useless debate with dbl talk to get the drama train going.
Who really cares what I waste my time on that hurts nothing? Its not your time. Kinda like drunk backseat drivers complaining about something they are not doing.
I think you’re wasting time on a game that painted itself into a mess. No mess here. Only mess here is drama queens, mostly from former players.
Stay in your own lane.
That said, trips you wouldn’t come back iv numbers went up, you don’t even like MP. Again, dbl talk. Crap in your own yard. All you do here is whine about something you don’t even want. Drama.
Won’t be reading your reply to this either.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: knorB on August 01, 2024, 05:16:31 AM
Bit too early to start knocking em back, don’t you think?
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: CptTrips on August 01, 2024, 08:18:13 AM
Make you some Vietnam missions on Marianas. The OH-6 mod came with some great Vietnam assets for villages and stuff. Let him door gun door you. Get some! ;)
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Eagler on August 02, 2024, 08:31:46 AM
Why some find AH more fun
Eagler
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: AKIron on August 02, 2024, 08:59:46 AM
The satisfaction you derive from any hobby will be tied firmly to the amount of effort you are able to put into it. Contrary to that guys claim some things do require more mental acuity than others.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Eagler on August 02, 2024, 10:04:35 AM
In dcs how do you get around the distortion caused by the prop spinning?
I can't see well enough to aim
Eagler
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: AKIron on August 02, 2024, 10:08:55 AM
I never noticed a problem.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Eagler on August 02, 2024, 10:30:11 AM
Vr?
What driver/ vCard are you using?
It is unusable for me when the view of the plane is up against the sky ..looking at the plane against the ground isn't near as bad
Eagler
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Eagler on August 02, 2024, 10:33:52 AM
Not the only one...
"In VR all propellers (except P-51D) messes with re-projection/motion smoothing. The result is that the gunsight in front of the propeller gets totally warped around and it's visually... well ugly and immersion breaking"
Eagler
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: AKIron on August 02, 2024, 10:35:49 AM
I don't use VR but my brother does who was flying with me in that video. He has never mentioned having a problem seeing through the prop. Maybe a setting?
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: AKIron on August 02, 2024, 10:42:22 AM
I see a thread a couple years old discussing this issue for VR. One suggested setting the prop alpha texture to 0. Likely some other work arounds since then.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: AKIron on August 02, 2024, 11:01:42 AM
Have seen some say turn off the motion reprojection. No idea what that is or what other effect that may have. VR is nice and I've owned two headsets over the years but it's just not for me anymore.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: CptTrips on August 02, 2024, 11:11:36 AM
"In VR all propellers (except P-51D) messes with re-projection/motion smoothing. The result is that the gunsight in front of the propeller gets totally warped around and it's visually... well ugly and immersion breaking"
Eagler
I also don't use VR for DCS, but I could see that possibility.
Especially with those new whatever setting DLSS or something. You might try different ones of those.
You can turn off motion blur. I think I have mine off.
DO all VR do that reprojection, Iron?
In the thread you quoted, did anyone suggest tweaks?
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: AKIron on August 02, 2024, 11:28:56 AM
The only suggested solutions I've seen were to turn off the motion reprojection in the openXR tool and the one from Skatezilla to set the prop to transparent.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Eagler on August 02, 2024, 11:46:13 AM
I am not using openXR either so that might be part of it
Eagler
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: CptTrips on August 02, 2024, 12:05:27 PM
Did you watch the entire video?
The conclusion wasn’t that DCS wasn’t worth it, it’s just that is isn’t a pew-pew game and maybe not for everyone, but he obviously still enjoys it.
I don’t really disagree with anything he said.
* It does have a high level of difficulty. * It is expensive (or appears that way at first glance). * Depending on module complexity, it does require more time investment. * It isn’t a jump in and pew-pew game. It isn’t a MMOG. * Depending on the mission design, realistic mission can have a long ingress time compared to combat time. That is Mission designer choice. * Fact is, it isn’t necessarily for everyone.
His main point wasn’t that DSC sucks, but that you need to understand what you are getting into, and your expectations need to be aligned with that.
To expand on some of those points…
It is more difficult than some other sims. That is both it’s barrier and it’s allure for some. But even within DCS that varies widely across modules. I myself find the more analog modules the best trade-off for me. I tend to prefer the Huey, Hind, Hip, Kiowa over the Shark and Apache; the warbirds over the F-18\F-15. I want my complexity in the FM and less enjoy the systems, computer screen twiddling. Other love that stuff. I get their enjoyment, I joke with Iron, but their choice isn’t wrong, just different than mine.
It certainly appears expensive. Way less expensive than taking up golf. For the cost of AH per year, you could buy to full fidelity modules at full price or more if you are smart and wait for the sales. Given the time it takes to master a full fidelity module, that rate works out about perfect. After that, I own them. I’m not just paying rent.
For instance, for now, I am satisfied with my hangar. I have plenty to keep me busy for a while. I didn’t buy the Phantom yet. Nor will I buy the Chinook yet. I’m having fun exploring and mastering what I’ve already bought. My next purchase probably won’t be until the Corsair and F6F come out. The others I might pick up later if they go on sale.
It can be time consuming, but it is supposed to be fun not a job, so it should be consuming time doing something fun. I don’t see that as a problem. Some guys spend 8 hours a day on AH. That is also time consuming.
It isn’t a MMOG. It wasn’t trying to be. Don’t go into it thinking you are buying a MMOG and you won’t feel cheated. It is what it is. IT has MP, but it is not a AH or WT. It’s not designed for that.
Bottom line, I have never claimed it is for everyone, in fact, it probably isn’t a perfect fit for most.
For reference again… (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bbfckmblu48nv8wsv5oda/sim_market.png?rlkey=put5gb32menelpophvg0tbwu3&st=ayt28lj2&raw=1)
It’s never been MY argument that AH needs to more further toward high fidelity. The current level of fidelity was a design\market positioning choice that I don’t think was necessarily bad. It’s just a different part of the spectrum that has a different clientelle. I don’t think moving left or right on the fidelity spectrum would make much difference for AH.
From a business standpoint, there is PLENTY of gold to be mined at the trade-off point HT chose. More potential customers would find it the perfect fit than DSC, IMHO.
The issue is, IMHO, that AH captures near 0% of the larger potential market it is designed for. DCS captures near 100% of its potential market, plus a lot of spill over from the fidelity curious. (And then the majority of its income is probably the pro-level military trainers they sell. Why accuracy and fidelity are such a fetish for them. Fidelity is their brand. Useful for selling to the military.)
My argument has always been AH should capture more of the potential market at the point in the fidelity spectrum it has chosen, not that it needs to chose a different point on the fidelity spectrum. IMHO, the barriers to that are the graphics, the monetization model, and the lack of viable SP portion doesn’t help.
Without adding any engine management or anything else like that, AH could mint money if it just captured it's current potential market segment on the fidelity spectrum.
Side note, there does appear to be an industry trend to move more towards DCS in fidelity overall. I suspect IL2 Korea and Combat pilot to fall somewhere in between IL2 GB and DCS.
But that also doesn’t mean the those who are enjoying DCS are wrong. I appreciate that they are producing museum-grade digital replicas of the actual aircraft, or as close as the current technology makes possible and certainly closer than anything else a civilian can buy. Jumping in my DCS Pony or spit IX is the closest thing to the experience of actually owning one and keeping it at the local airport that I am likely to achieve. So yes, to me the fetish level of detail is what I am paying for and frankly I see where the money goes. It’s not perfect, but is still very impressive.
YMMV.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: edge12674 on August 02, 2024, 12:20:17 PM
In dcs how do you get around the distortion caused by the prop spinning?
I can't see well enough to aim
Eagler
Yes, DCS natively supports OpenXR. You can use motion smoothing and you will get better performance than with SteamVR without any prop/rotor issues.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: AKIron on August 02, 2024, 01:25:05 PM
Regarding warbirds vs more modern jets, have been working with my brother on ACM. Amazing that the Army and airlines don't teach that. Anyhow we took a couple of F-16s and went head on. No shooting or maneuvering until after the merge. Guns only. He's getting the hang of it. We went a few rounds with labels on and then I turned them off. Whole 'nother ball game. After a bit we lose each other. We're flying around trying to find each other and he accidentally locked me up with his hmd. He found me instantly but I then saw him on the rwr instantly. Fun times.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: AKIron on August 03, 2024, 01:01:56 PM
* It is expensive (or appears that way at first glance).
I would like to point out that unlike IL2, DCS has 0 investment to start. You get 2 free aircraft and 2 free maps. That is were to start learn the basics like the settings.
If your still good with DCS, depending on how complex you want to start out, you get flaming cliffs or High a Fedelity Mod.
Once you get into High Fidelity it's best to start small with One Aircraft Mod, If it's Carrier plane (F-18, F-14, F4e, etc) get the super carrier mod, If you are doing warbirds get the WWII assets pack and maybe a map. Want to play with GVs get Combined Arms.
Each full fidelity mod is practically a sim in and off itself.
However DO NOT get into DCS like me.
I tend to get something with every major sale and now I probably have so many aircraft I will probably never learn them all.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: RichardDarkwood on August 09, 2024, 08:19:04 PM
I don't know about you guys but I fully intend to master all the modules I've bought but yet to try. One of these days.
Who doesn't need a big twin rotor helicopter?
YEah, I caved and got the chinook. ;)
Had the chance to get it pre-order price right before release. I figured lower price and no waiting, why not. Might be a while before it is on sale at that price.
Dang nimble when empty. Almost too floaty. Need to load me a platoon of crayon eaters and gear in that thing to hold it down. ;)
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: edge12674 on August 10, 2024, 09:03:23 AM
Chinook is a little to MSFS for me. Defensive only. I need to offend something with projectiles. :D
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: AKIron on August 10, 2024, 09:14:38 AM
I'll buy the C-130 if it comes with the AC-130 variant. Get some!
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: CptTrips on August 10, 2024, 10:33:40 AM
Well I posted a list of whats wrong with AH in a reply to the Aces High Messiah but I think some mod got their panties in a bunch and gave me a stealth warning as well as put me on another watch list (I'm already on FBI CIA NSA and Interpol watch list whats one more LOL!)
(https://i.postimg.cc/V6FPN9hg/popsiclemod.jpg)
At least Skuzzy had a pair and would at least warn you and even mark your post.
I guess we can add inconsistent skittish mods to the list of things driving people away.
This was the last post I made before the date and time on the warning. Note that the post is still up.
Since the OP wants to talk about AH now, lets talk about AH ....
ENY Side-Balance issue ever get solved?
I was here for the auto swap thingy that was a real feces fest but my undertanding is that the best work around right now is to make and pay for 3 susbcritions, parking each sub on a diferent side and log into that sub when side balance goes south and you want to change sides to fly your favorite ride.
While having 2 extra shade accounts was frowned upon for cheating/spying, I'm guessing HT is OK with it these days, Lets be honest it's a bonus welfare check.
have we ever gotten an Auto/perma squelch?
Last new plane/ship/vehicle?
When was the last true functional feature added to AH?
I'm guessing it was a autoside swap feces fest that came out back in 2019/2020ish.
I hear just keeping the server on and online have become somewhat of an issue as of late.
I'm not going to ask about the graphics engine.
What exactly does AH offer the new player to draw them in that they can't get elsewhere that's either better or cheaper?
What exactly is going to bring back old players that have aleady given up on AH and moved on?
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: knorB on August 14, 2024, 02:18:12 PM
Now you’ve done it…. The drunken schmuck will appear.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: CptTrips on August 14, 2024, 02:29:10 PM
The multiple account thing is sticky. You're going to have Dad's and their son's playing from the same household. The 3 accounts paid for by Dad. The best compromise with security I think is that all accounts from a household must always be on same country and country switch cool-off timer should be shared by the 3 accounts so none of them can switch until all can switch and you can't stagger the timouts to switch more often with less wait.
Never understood refusing the PermaSquelch. The reasoning I got is that it would hurt the sense of "Community". I think it would avoid a metric tone of shtt talking and endless bickering. I think it would be a massive boon the "Community". Who you chose to "Commune" with ought to be under your control without burdensome hoops like re-entering every session.
The forum allows me to Permaquelch.. er.. Perma-Ignore without me having to set my ignore list back up every time I logon.
I could write one. I think I even had a prototype working, but I didn't want to just flat out circumvent his intent. But like refusing to consider any portion of F2P subset planes, I think rejecting Permasquelch is a mistaken decision, but his to make.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Mayhem on August 14, 2024, 02:58:40 PM
The reasoning I got is that it would hurt the sense of "Community".
I think "the sense of 'Community'." got tossed out the window when HT started letting some of the more Toxic players back into the GAME.
Almost seams like everything done as of late with the GAME is meant to drive players away.
Toss in the spontaneous downtime's and I'm starting to wonder if it's all done intentionally in an attempt to turn AH into a loss and therefore a tax write off.
But this was SUPPOSE TO BE a thread about "OTHER SIMS" LOL
I've been playing off and on since beta and been on the current boards for over 23 years. Never gotten a warning and to the best of my knowledge never had a post edited/removed.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Eviscerate on August 14, 2024, 03:56:23 PM
I've been playing off and on since beta and been on the current boards for over 23 years. Never gotten a warning and to the best of my knowledge never had a post edited/removed.
My guess is a disparaging comment such as: "I'm guessing HT is OK with it these days, Lets be honest it's a bonus welfare check." Toward HTC probably did it.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Mayhem on August 14, 2024, 04:19:44 PM
My guess is a disparaging comment such as: "I'm guessing HT is OK with it these days, Lets be honest it's a bonus welfare check." Toward HTC probably did it.
I stand by that statement. He created a problem with ENY and now he is selling a solution that was previously banned or at least frowned upon. It has the effect of bringing in "Free" money with little to no effort, similar to pay to win mechanics. It's basically a welfare check, money for nothing. (But the Chicks aint free)
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: AKIron on August 14, 2024, 04:42:22 PM
A 40 pointer is pretty stiff. Hurt someone's feelings for sure.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Meatwad on August 14, 2024, 05:52:52 PM
That must have been you I passed own the the way down.... oval racing or Road?
CAV
I cant afford IRacing, add in the equipment you need to compete and just forget about it. I dont have that kind of time or money to invest in it. I love racing, even built a simpit for it to hold my TM stuff, but I just cant keep up.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: RichardDarkwood on August 14, 2024, 10:39:47 PM
I cant afford IRacing, add in the equipment you need to compete and just forget about it. I dont have that kind of time or money to invest in it. I love racing, even built a simpit for it to hold my TM stuff, but I just cant keep up.
I farm points
mainly just race in events I host.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: xanax on August 14, 2024, 10:45:29 PM
I cant afford IRacing, add in the equipment you need to compete and just forget about it. I dont have that kind of time or money to invest in it. I love racing, even built a simpit for it to hold my TM stuff, but I just cant keep up.
I’m not even gonna go look at any of that stuff. You people have done enough adding to the inferno that is now my wallet. I had to stop myself from looking at Pimax Crystals just yesterday. I bought a new PC rig for flying AH and “other sims,” a terrific HOTAS setup for same. I bought modules, planes and assorted stuff for same as well. What I can’t buy is time. I’ve barely flown in any of them. Do I give up beer league softball, pickle ball or biking for this? I’d rather not but when rain season hits, I’m flying more for sure. I've been contemplating retirement for the last 2 years too. We shall see. Damnit! I’m at least gonna google Iracing.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: rabbidrabbit on August 15, 2024, 07:28:22 AM
I stand by that statement. He created a problem with ENY and now he is selling a solution that was previously banned or at least frowned upon. It has the effect of bringing in "Free" money with little to no effort, similar to pay to win mechanics. It's basically a welfare check, money for nothing. (But the Chicks aint free)
Cool. I'm just saying don't get upset when you disparage a company on said company's forum and then get a warning for it, lmao.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: DmonSlyr on August 15, 2024, 11:05:55 AM
Cool. I'm just saying don't get upset when you disparage a company on said company's forum and then get a warning for it, lmao.
Hitech should be prepared for disaparagment of his game when he makes stupid decisions that majorly effect the gameplay.
While HTC may have had a few extra accounts by a squad who has nothing else to do with their lives, he's lost tremendously more subs over the last 5 months guaranteed. Remember, one squad alone was responsible for 6,000 kills in March and 6,500 kills in April with over 1,450 hours played chasing hundreds of players out of the game, on top of the summer short we usually see. These severely skewed actual #s to compare YoY. Completely killed any momentum the game had from MOA.
I'm not going to pay for gabrage gameplay anymore, and neither are hundreds of players who are tired of the BS.
HTCs refusal to acknowledge poor garbage gameplay results in less subs than we've seen for a long time, as he continues to find ways to make the game worse and worse through giving up all strategy in the game.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Mayhem on August 15, 2024, 11:09:42 AM
I cant afford IRacing, add in the equipment you need to compete and just forget about it. I dont have that kind of time or money to invest in it. I love racing, even built a simpit for it to hold my TM stuff, but I just cant keep up.
Whels got me into project cars for a bit. PC2 is really good PC3 not so much.
Unfortunately I currently suffer a combat commute from hell to work and back. Last thing I'm mood for is a driving sim. However I'm absolutely down to fly around blow stuff up.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Eagler on August 15, 2024, 11:17:02 AM
Didn't know what all the noise was about when ht made the bbs announcement...thought ppl were overreacting...
After months of being hunted nightly I understand their concern
A cancer was released into the game. .the only question is was it on purpose and planned or just a very poor business decision..
Eagler
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: The Fugitive on August 15, 2024, 11:58:13 AM
Whels got me into project cars for a bit. PC2 is really good PC3 not so much.
Unfortunately I currently suffer a combat commute from hell to work and back. Last thing I'm mood for is a driving sim. However I'm absolutely down to fly around blow stuff up.
I just retired earlier this year. I repaired vending machines for a living a drove 200+ miles a day when I was working. Best part of the day was driving someplace new. Problem was after 40+ years doing it there weren't too many "new" places left. Still working on the "honey do" list, but maybe this winter I can spend some time driving again.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Shuffler on August 15, 2024, 02:31:17 PM
Some talk of "Community" on the last page. That sort of left when we started getting a lot of folks who do not play AH anymore just coming in and disrupting the "Community".
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: JimmyD3 on August 15, 2024, 02:36:35 PM
Some talk of "Community" on the last page. That sort of left when we started getting a lot of folks who do not play AH anymore just coming in and disrupting the "Community".
Well said Shuffler, I have most of them on my ignore list. :aok
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Banshee7 on August 15, 2024, 02:37:48 PM
Some of you guys might thoroughly enjoy Farming Simulator. Laid back, goal oriented, strategical, and no competition. It's my go to when I need a break.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: AKIron on August 15, 2024, 02:42:57 PM
From the complaining on these forums one might think no one likes playing this game. Guess the ones that do don't come here.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Banshee7 on August 15, 2024, 02:45:30 PM
Some talk of "Community" on the last page. That sort of left when we started getting a lot of folks who do not play AH anymore just coming in and disrupting the "Community".
You're squad name wasn't drug through the mud by a handful of Toxic Trolls who wrapped their ego around a video game.
We have had members Cyber-stalked, Harassed, Stream Sniped, and swatted to the point of quitting pretty much everything, that was even done to a female player or two.
So that "poor business decision" left a lot of us feeling betrayed.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Skyyr on August 15, 2024, 04:51:20 PM
Hitech should be prepared for disaparagment of his game when he makes stupid decisions that majorly effect the gameplay.
While HTC may have had a few extra accounts by a squad who has nothing else to do with their lives, he's lost tremendously more subs over the last 5 months guaranteed. Remember, one squad alone was responsible for 6,000 kills in March and 6,500 kills in April with over 1,450 hours played chasing hundreds of players out of the game, on top of the summer short we usually see. These severely skewed actual #s to compare YoY. Completely killed any momentum the game had from MOA.
I'm not going to pay for gabrage gameplay anymore, and neither are hundreds of players who are tired of the BS.
HTCs refusal to acknowledge poor garbage gameplay results in less subs than we've seen for a long time, as he continues to find ways to make the game worse and worse through giving up all strategy in the game.
Thank you sir :salute
Someone screenshotted your post and it just brought a player back to the game.
While HTC may have had a few extra accounts by a squad who has nothing else to do with their lives, he's lost tremendously more subs over the last 5 months guaranteed.
You know I wonder if it was up the community or at least by paying subscribers if the Banned Toxic Feces Farmers would have ever been allowed back into the game?
:D
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Animl-AW on August 15, 2024, 06:36:27 PM
Some talk of "Community" on the last page. That sort of left when we started getting a lot of folks who do not play AH anymore just coming in and disrupting the "Community".
I agree 1000%
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Animl-AW on August 15, 2024, 06:51:45 PM
You know I wonder if it was up the community or at least by paying subscribers if the Banned Toxic Feces Farmers would have ever been allowed back into the game?
:D
We have a kinko the clown above trying to take credit for bringing one person into the game (as another cockroach claims). He lies so much no one knows if that is true. But this puddle of vomit could never in his wildest dreams have the capacity to replace the horde he chased away. I drove away 30, but here's my token one. In 30 yrs I have never been so repulsed by an idiot of that degree.
A few here correct on the the former players crapping in our back yard. If they did this in their game now, they would be banned, eternally. Just dogs with fleas......no offense to dogs with fleas.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: RichardDarkwood on August 15, 2024, 07:17:37 PM
Still there, can go there and horrify you any time I want
Besides, you 3-4 have the same ranking as Skyyr with the community. No one listens to a word out your mouth, you might as well talk to mirrors. Go change your diaper.
Actually ya just gave me an idea....thanks for the reminder
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: DmonSlyr on August 15, 2024, 09:47:11 PM
If I had to distil my quotidian existence in two pithy sentences, I would say: I love to be hated and I hate to be loved.
Hate is the complement of fear and I like being feared. It imbues me with an intoxicating sensation of omnipotence. I am veritably inebriated by the looks of horror or repulsion on people's faces. They know that I am capable of anything. Godlike, I am ruthless and devoid of scruples, capricious and unfathomable, emotion-less and asexual, omniscient, omnipotent and omni-present, a plague, a devastation, an inescapable verdict. I nurture my ill-repute, stoking it and fanning the flames of gossip. It is an enduring asset.
Hate and fear are sure generators of attention. It is all about narcissistic supply, of course - the drug which we, the narcissists consume and which consumes us in return. So, attack sadistically authority figures, institutions, my hosts and I make sure they know about my eruptions.
I purvey only the truth and nothing but the truth - but I tell it bluntly told in an orgy of evocative baroque English.
The blind rage that this induces in the targets of my vitriolic diatribes provokes in me a surge of satisfaction and inner tranquillity not obtainable by any other means. I like to think about their pain, of course - but that is the lesser part of the equation
It is my horrid future and inescapable punishment that carries the irresistible appeal. Like some strain of alien virus, it infects my better judgement and I succumb.
In general, my weapon is the truth and human propensity to avoid it. In tactless breaching of every etiquette, I chastise and berate and snub and offer vitriolic opprobrium. A self-proclaimed Jeremiah, I hector and harangue from my many self-made pulpits. I understand the prophets. I understand Torquemada.
I bask in the incomparable pleasure of being RIGHT. I derive my grandiose superiority from the contrast between my righteousness and the humanness of others.
But it is not that simple. It never is with narcissists. Fostering public revolt and the inevitable ensuing social sanctions fulfils two other psychodynamic goals.
The first one I alluded to. It is the burning desire - nay, NEED - to be punished.
In the grotesque mind of the narcissist, his punishment is equally his vindication.
By being permanently on trial, the narcissist claims high moral ground and the position of the martyr: misunderstood, discriminated against, unjustly roughed, outcast by his very towering genius or other outstanding qualities. To conform to the cultural stereotype of the "tormented artist" - the narcissist provokes his own suffering. He is thus validated.
His grandiose fantasies acquire a modicum of substance. "If I were not so special - they wouldn't have persecuted me so".
The persecution of the narcissist IS his uniqueness. He must be different, for better or for worse. The streak of paranoia embedded in him, makes the outcome inevitable. He is in constant conflict with lesser beings: his spouse, his shrink, his boss, his colleagues. Forced to stoop to their intellectual level, the narcissist feels like Gulliver: a giant strapped by Lilliputians. His life is a constant struggle against the self-contented mediocrity of his surroundings. This is his fate which he accepts, though never stoically. It is a calling, a mission and a recurrence in his stormy life.
Deeper still, the narcissist has an image of himself as a worthless, bad and dysfunctional extension of others. In constant need of narcissistic supply, he feels humiliated. The contrast between his cosmic fantasies and the reality of his dependence, neediness and, often, failure (the "Grandiosity Gap") is an emotionally harrowing experience. It is a constant background noise of devilish, demeaning laughter. The voices say: "you are a fraud", "you are a zero", "you deserve nothing", "if only they knew how worthless you are".
The narcissist attempts to silence these tormenting voices not by fighting them but by agreeing with them. Unconsciously - sometimes consciously - he says to them: "I do agree with you. I am bad and worthless and deserving of the most severe punishment for my rotten character, bad habits, addiction and the constant fraud that is my life. I will go out and seek my doom. Now that I have complied - will you leave me be? Will you leave me alone"?
Of course, they never do.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: knorB on August 16, 2024, 06:48:04 AM
Sure I do! Entire squads! Luckily they are easy kills!
So you specifically have a guy who changes from your team to the enemy side you are fighting to attack you with advantage every time you get a kill while in mid sortie? And then only goes for you and passed up the 5 friendlies infront of you?
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Banshee7 on August 16, 2024, 10:00:04 AM
So you specifically have a guy who changes from your team to the enemy side you are fighting to attack you with advantage every time you get a kill while in mid sortie? And then only goes for you and passed up the 5 friendlies infront of you?
Aside from changing countries, yes, everything you stated and they will usually bring their squad mates with them. It's quite funny watching 3-4 guys give up every advantage they have and bypass bigger threats to race to kill me. Maybe it's my plane choice. Maybe it's because they think I'm Skyyr. Maybe it's Maybelline.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Eagler on August 16, 2024, 10:07:00 AM
He let's this useless noise continue for pages in multiple threads but mention something relevant like corruption in politics and it gets shut down almost instantly..
Just need sky to run for office I guess lol...
Eagler
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: AKIron on August 16, 2024, 10:39:00 AM
He let's this useless noise continue for pages in multiple threads but mention something relevant like corruption in politics and it gets shut down almost instantly..
Just need sky to run for office I guess lol...
Eagler
There's really little that's more useless than arguing politics on the Internet. Yet I still do plenty of that in other venues. It's gonna be hard to find something else that is game related to talk about here for a game 25 years old and most have been playing for many of those years.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Meatwad on August 16, 2024, 10:56:35 AM
He let's this useless noise continue for pages in multiple threads but mention something relevant like corruption in politics and it gets shut down almost instantly..
Just need sky to run for office I guess lol...
Eagler
Especially if it touches a nerve
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Tumor on August 16, 2024, 12:08:38 PM
Aside from changing countries, yes, everything you stated and they will usually bring their squad mates with them. It's quite funny watching 3-4 guys give up every advantage they have and bypass bigger threats to race to kill me. Maybe it's my plane choice. Maybe it's because they think I'm Skyyr. Maybe it's Maybelline.
The side switch is a very important note. I didn't put that in there on accident because it represents a pattern of sociopathic behavior when it happens every single time against players who have called it out.
But golly, what could be more trilling than flying super fast high speed dive late war BnZ cannon monsters while gaming all three sides of the map with a squad who plays every second of the day to manipulate every part of the MA they want and chase everyone away with snooze mode BnZ and targeting practices.
:rolleyes:
< than 500 left. Yall enjoy running the rest off :aok
:salute
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Banshee7 on August 16, 2024, 12:32:04 PM
But golly, what could be more trilling than flying super fast high speed dive late war BnZ cannon monsters while gaming all three sides of the map with a squad who plays every second of the day to manipulate every part of the MA they want and chase everyone away with snooze mode BnZ and targeting practices.
:rolleyes:
< than 500 left. Yall enjoy running the rest off :aok
:salute
I'm sorry you've had bad experiences, buddy. It's been quite thrilling since almost every sortie I've flown since flying with them has be 2-3 of us versus full dar bars of red cons that come in above 15k--something I never used to do. It was funny watching our countrymen complaining about being double teamed and talking about quitting the game because of the hording (what has actually driven more players away than anything else) instead of upping and defending, all while we flew headfirst into the enemy.
Players avoiding combat has been far more detrimental to the game, along with the piss poor attitude a large number of players share.
Back on topic:
https://youtu.be/8MlSiOBNSSs?si=nBIpLQzTlemFipxB
I'm looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: scott66 on August 16, 2024, 01:13:31 PM
Don't listen to banshee he is a bully! :devil him and skyyr beat me up other night..I felt like a fly skyyr oiled me took my cannons away(like pulling wings off a fly) then banshee came in with his 1eng 38 and finished the job(stepped and squished me) luckily I had a pocket full of quarters I re upped seeking revenge!
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Animl-AW on August 16, 2024, 01:19:47 PM
I'm sorry you've had bad experiences, buddy. It's been quite thrilling since almost every sortie I've flown since flying with them has be 2-3 of us versus full dar bars of red cons that come in above 15k--something I never used to do. It was funny watching our countrymen complaining about being double teamed and talking about quitting the game because of the hording (what has actually driven more players away than anything else) instead of upping and defending, all while we flew headfirst into the enemy.
Players avoiding combat has been far more detrimental to the game, along with the piss poor attitude a large number of players share.
Back on topic:
https://youtu.be/8MlSiOBNSSs?si=nBIpLQzTlemFipxB
I'm looking forward to it.
I’m with Viator, stop with the excuses
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Animl-AW on August 16, 2024, 01:23:11 PM
I noticed your coward buddy wanted to come no where near me while at 30k hunting for morons. He can’t stand someone has more alt to offer his punk butt.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Animl-AW on August 16, 2024, 01:29:25 PM
I'm sorry you've had bad experiences, buddy. It's been quite thrilling since almost every sortie I've flown since flying with them has be 2-3 of us versus full dar bars of red cons that come in above 15k--something I never used to do. It was funny watching our countrymen complaining about being double teamed and talking about quitting the game because of the hording (what has actually driven more players away than anything else) instead of upping and defending, all while we flew headfirst into the enemy.
Players avoiding combat has been far more detrimental to the game, along with the piss poor attitude a large number of players share.
Back on topic:
https://youtu.be/8MlSiOBNSSs?si=nBIpLQzTlemFipxB
I'm looking forward to it.
Bad experiences? Sigh.... is that you Banshee?
I don't give a F what "hoards" you are flying against. When your weasel boy switches teams to target players. I have a frkn problem with it.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Animl-AW on August 16, 2024, 01:53:25 PM
I don't give a F what "hoards" you are flying against. When your weasel boy switches teams to target players. I have a frkn problem with it.
The only players who don’t have a problem with it are that handful who fly with him ruining their reputation like V did. Have ya seen him since?
We ALL have a problem with it. And if its not going to be handled properly, we’ll take it on our selves and play as dirty as him. Targeting players that I watch every night. Enough with him destroying our game to feed his way over the top mental mush ego.
EDIT: I support giving second chances,....this is where I admit being very wrong about something. This went way south.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Skyyr on August 16, 2024, 03:40:48 PM
But golly, what could be more trilling than flying super fast high speed dive late war BnZ cannon monsters while gaming all three sides of the map with a squad who plays every second of the day to manipulate every part of the MA they want and chase everyone away with snooze mode BnZ and targeting practices.
Speaking of late war monsters, check out this insane G2 sortie! Those G2s sure are uber overpowered things :rofl :rofl :rofl
https://youtu.be/LZM4reHIbfQ
As for time played, I've been on 5 hours in the last 4 days. You may wanna put on that tin foil hate, err hat.
Last tour I logged 130 hours and most of that time was over the weekends. If 130 hours is insanely unimagineable to you, then your old squaddies were absolute loser, no-life junkies who played even more than that. :rofl
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Animl-AW on August 16, 2024, 04:03:38 PM
Speaking of late war monsters, check out this insane G2 sortie! Those G2s sure are uber overpowered things :rofl :rofl :rofl
https://youtu.be/LZM4reHIbfQ
As for time played, I've been on 5 hours in the last 4 days. You may wanna put on that tin foil hate, err hat.
Last tour I logged 130 hours and most of that time was over the weekends. If 130 hours is insanely unimagineable to you, then your old squaddies were absolute loser, no-life junkies who played even more than that. :rofl
4-5 hrs last 4 days is nonsense. You were on 4 the last 2 nights alone.
My god you are one messed up twit. You repulse vultures. What do you have 2 fans?
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Skyyr on August 16, 2024, 04:06:10 PM
4-5 hrs last 4 days is nonsense. You were on 4 the last 2 nights alone.
My god you are one messed up twit. You repulse vultures. What do you have 2 fans?
I assume that either English is a second language for you or that you simply have permanent drunk text syndrome from chronic alcohol poisoning.
That said, yeah, 4 hours from the previous 2 nights, 1 hour the night before those two, plus today (I haven't played today) makes 5 hours in 4 days. That's how math works. Lol. Logic really isn't your Forte. Nor is flying appararently.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Animl-AW on August 16, 2024, 04:11:32 PM
I assume that either English is a second language for you or that you simply have permanent drunk text syndrome from chronic alcohol poisoning.
That said, yeah, 4 hours from the previous 2 nights, 1 hour the night before those two, plus today (I haven't played today) makes 5 hours in 4 days. That's how math works. Lol. Logic really isn't your Forte. Nor is flying appararently.
I’m not going to waste a single heartbeat to read your crap.
You have one goal, destroy this game, and its starting to sicken us its allowed.
Something tells me you do nasty things in a mirror. You’re a freak.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Animl-AW on August 16, 2024, 04:17:35 PM
Take note squeaky
These have to be the only replies I make without one single person arguing with me. Do have any clue in your thin pointed head what that means? Don’t you ever think its just me.
Now, get on your bicycle and ride off
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Skyyr on August 16, 2024, 04:18:18 PM
I had it in Dec 2019 and not since. No vaccination for me.
I got it the March 2019? first month, before it went full blown epidemic. Got the 2 shots or would not be allowed to work, I’m around 100sto 1000s of people every work day. That first time I had to stay awake 3 days because I knew I’d suffocate if I fell asleep.
Got it a second time 6 mos after vacs. Was like a normal cold.
Now yrs later with no vacs it handed me my ars again.
I’m pretty sure I can’t be killed.
I just got over it.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: LCADolby on August 16, 2024, 04:57:55 PM
I got it the March 2019? first month, before it went full blown epidemic. Got the 2 shots or would not be allowed to work, I’m around 100sto 1000s of people every work day. That first time I had to stay awake 3 days because I knew I’d suffocate if I fell asleep.
Got it a second time 6 mos after vacs. Was like a normal cold.
Now yrs later with no vacs it handed me my ars again.
I’m pretty sure I can’t be killed.
I just got over it.
No, that would have been 2020. In Dec 2019 no one had heard of it.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Mayhem on August 16, 2024, 05:05:17 PM
Players avoiding combat has been far more detrimental to the game, along with the piss poor attitude a large number of players share.
You can chalk all of that up to poor user experience. If the user's experience is crap they are going to go someplace else where they can get the experience they want.
Attacking the customer base for not wanting to buy/play your game never fixes anything and only drives players away more.
Of course having a sociopath toxic troll out griefing people and then uploading the video to it's spank bank YouTube channel so they can beat their little monkey in the wee hours of the morning isn't very productive at bringing new players in or old players back either.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Mayhem on August 16, 2024, 05:24:46 PM
My 30yr old kid never got it. His idiot wife (that dumped him later) talked him into getting the vax, and 1 boost during the "get it or your fired" stupidity. Was healthy as a horse, did MMA at a local gym, no smoking etc. Called me one night about 4mo ago and said he was out of breath from walking up the stairs to his Apt. Called again later that night worn out from walking across the room. Told him to get to the ER. He did. Next day, Docs told him he very well might not have survived the night had he stayed home. Was in Hospital over a week. Now he has to haul an oxygen machine around wherever he goes.
Congestive heart failure. Why? The go-to answer for quite awhile was "Hey, it happens". It was 3weeks before anyone said the word "myocarditis". He finds out in a couple weeks if he's going on the transplant list. Fortunately, he seems to be recovering but it's real slow.
I honestly thought all the reporting on such was mostly hyperbole. Not anymore. :mad:
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Animl-AW on August 16, 2024, 06:32:37 PM
So we can all agree that happened before “the one who shall not be named” returned? The numbers in game have been roughly the same since I returned in 2020 and more permanently in 2022. And, as per the Wishlist forum, players have been begging for a change for a while. The ones actually promoting combat are getting bored and leaving.
Look at it this way. There are always people on the fence, this issue pushed them off the fence. Many have stated in open air, a lot in the return post, this was the reason they pulled out.
To think this had no impact would be a lil naive.
He came back starting as a good boy. Then, the more he got away with, the more he pushed the envelope. Now we are right back to sounding like the stories I was told that got him gone. Constant targeting people
The other night I watched him on dar. He got to the beaten path, then circled around over water at high alt until Eagler had to run into him, for the 100th time. And then he has to post videos to further harass? Players like Eagler have a right to fight other fights without 70% being Skyyr vulches. Yes, that type of stuff drives people off. No one plays for that kinda crap.
Those who left because of that would put us at 130+ right now. Where we were this time last yr. Some of our best pilots were chased off.
Title: Re: Other sims
Post by: Animl-AW on August 16, 2024, 06:35:31 PM
My 30yr old kid never got it. His idiot wife (that dumped him later) talked him into getting the vax, and 1 boost during the "get it or your fired" stupidity. Was healthy as a horse, did MMA at a local gym, no smoking etc. Called me one night about 4mo ago and said he was out of breath from walking up the stairs to his Apt. Called again later that night worn out from walking across the room. Told him to get to the ER. He did. Next day, Docs told him he very well might not have survived the night had he stayed home. Was in Hospital over a week. Now he has to haul an oxygen machine around wherever he goes.
Congestive heart failure. Why? The go-to answer for quite awhile was "Hey, it happens". It was 3weeks before anyone said the word "myocarditis". He finds out in a couple weeks if he's going on the transplant list. Fortunately, he seems to be recovering but it's real slow.
I honestly thought all the reporting on such was mostly hyperbole. Not anymore. :mad:
Ya, I can’t touch that. That sucks.
I just got tired for a day when I got the vax. Everyone is different I guess.