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Title: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Shane on August 12, 2024, 08:52:48 PM
I'll leave this so jaeger1 can see how mistaken he was in his claim that I vulched him a second time.

30 seconds:  Eagler (G2) is on Jaeger's(Hurri2) six.  I'm a good 4k away. 
40-43 seconds:  Jaeger was close to his own base and Eagler took off his wing.  Ack was not firing yet that my film picked up.
43 - 51 seconds: As Jaeger's Hurri was floating down, AKBaloo was on Eagler's six. He was missing.
52 seconds: Eagler augers in his evasives, AKBaloo got the kill on Eagler.
56 seconds: Jaeger's Hurri2 finally crashed, I get a kill.

Why I got a kill when I was 4k away? My film starts at an air launch, so I must've gotten hits on Jaeger in the previous sortie and due to internet/server reasons and since Eagler died before Jaeger went in, the kill defaulted to me.

1:13 - Jaeger starts going in on me (the screenshot) - completely mistaken in his assertion I vulched him there when it was Eagler.
1:36 - He adds on.
2:12 - I respond to Jaeger's erroneous assertion.

I would normally have walked him back with what I thought happened in that moment, but the way he latched on my ankle made me shake it and here we are.

If you come at me, get your facts straight. Go check your film, if you don't film, start.

Jaeger (or anyone) if you have any accusations about me, let me know about them in the moment instead of whatever it was you were trying to do. I won't even go into what other claims Jaeger was making over the next 15 minutes simply because of the way he kept doubling down on his mistaken perception.

Screen shot @1:36

film is 2:14

Jaeger was wrong. Period.


(https://i.postimg.cc/fbBTmZK4/not-me-jaeg.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)



 
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Skyyr on August 12, 2024, 09:35:11 PM
 :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Eagler on August 13, 2024, 05:45:13 AM
Sorry if I caused whatever...

I lose track in there and might have flown close to the other base for a kill..

The action gets so fast in there I don't always read the kill buffer..

You should join us sky..take a break from your ma hunting

Eagler
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: fudgums on August 13, 2024, 05:49:14 AM
I mean the whole thing started off the weekly "ho" tirade.

The amount of effort into posting this is...concerning.
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Shane on August 13, 2024, 08:54:03 AM
I mean the whole thing started off the weekly "ho" tirade.

The amount of effort into posting this is...concerning.

So is the amount of effort you just spent trying to minimize Jaeger's accusations and harassment last night.  Selective hypocrisy has never sat very well with me.

I took heat unnecessarily for Eagler's action.  Uncool on many levels.  Jaeger chose to escalate it with his accusations which included direct faslehoods (screenshot #3)  Moreso when he laughably tried to hide behind withholding all those claims to "protect me" - what the actual diddly? LOFL!

Jaeger was all over my ankle making assertions that he cannot back up, literally accusing me of constantly breaking the rules - want the screenshot?  Hell, let me give it anyway.

So tired of people not only making up stuff or defending those who do, and then moving the goalposts when I call out the bs behind the assertions.

(https://i.postimg.cc/xjhkGrmB/lies-1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/HkCVKQB2/lies-2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/fRjJhJPh/lies-3.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)


If going to accuse me of something, make sure it's a valid claim and not just a butthurt ego speaking.
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: fudgums on August 13, 2024, 10:07:48 AM
Started with the weekly ho stuff.

Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Shane on August 13, 2024, 10:50:52 AM
Started with the weekly ho stuff.

And there you go with your exaggerations, "weekly ho stuff"... let's call it a deliberate lie, really. Or maybe accept it as truth, in which case you're confirming I get upset at taking HOs every week? Or I'm "continuously breaking the rules" and HOing everything in sight?  Clarity, please?

from 7:03 when I said "frt qtr really?" after he took a shot I wouildn't - so I semi vulched him. We didn't speak much again (hell, during that entire time I was quiet) until Eagler "vulched" him at 7:40pm and he latched onto my ankle. You guys clog up vox way more than my occasional comments on ch223/1/2/200 (get your comms protocols straight, Jaeger.)

*define vulch? his gear wasn't down, and he was in air.  Maybe crank up AA more? People often break the AA line (I generally don't.)  Eagler's "vulch" didn't even put him in AA. Maybe crank up AA better? 

 *frt qtrs are sketchy in general and I avoid them, altho' very capable of returning them when I start getting them.  Even posted a HO/frt qtr primer in this thread: https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,407770.msg5399481.html#msg5399481

At most when I get a sketchy shot (and you, sno, goodbye and mdstampf are some of the worst about taking these - want films?) I'll call it out and if it continues, I start returning them.  And even over time I've not called out some, especially with any new faces. I'm mostly quiet beyond that, not much time to type in MNM.

I generally record a lot of my MNM sorties, and both you and Jaeger are making claims that are both unfounded and unsubstantiated....

Maybe the "no ho" should just be dropped so sketchy shots (and ho/rams) are less a debatable issue?  And once again, if someone felt I did something sketchy to call me out on it - I have no issue with that. I do have issues with how passive/aggressive Jaeger was in alluding to it with no evidence. Jaeger was primed to latch onto my ankle for whatever reason(s).


Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Banshee7 on August 13, 2024, 11:19:10 AM
I thought the point of MNM was to fight without HOing and vulching?
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Skyyr on August 13, 2024, 11:20:20 AM
I thought the point of MNM was to fight without HOing and vulching?

Seems to me that MNM is filled with dudes who say they hate HO'ing and vulching and then do the majority of HO'ing and vulching.  :huh
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Shane on August 13, 2024, 11:31:12 AM
I thought the point of MNM was to fight without HOing and vulching?

Yep, and for the most part that's how it goes down.  It's also why I try to avoid taking front quarter shots (even in funtime matchplay) because it might appear to be HOish, but have no problem issuing them once I get them. There are a few players who will constantly take those shots, and several who will make no effort to avoid a collision (I stop trying to avoid when I start getting that; let's play ram!)

I don't think neither you nor skyyr could manage to thrive (or have fun) in MNM, despite both of you claiming to be about the "fight."  Maybe those "no ho" "no vulch" rules take away your most effective tactics?  :noid  So, just maybe save your passive/aggressive snark for a more suitable arena?  :aok

Or you can try to have fun for an hour now and then.

Oh, and if fun itself isn't a strong enough draw, there's a little ego easter egg here under "snapshots":  https://ahevents.net/index.php/event-logs
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Eagler on August 13, 2024, 11:38:05 AM
I thought the point of MNM was to fight without HOing and vulching?

Try it and find out

There's no hoing except by accident and no vulching as Jaeger1 has ack cranked up

Now picking is another story lol

Eagler
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Banshee7 on August 13, 2024, 11:43:45 AM
Yep, and for the most part that's how it goes down.  It's also why I try to avoid taking front quarter shots (even in funtime matchplay) because it might appear to be HOish, but have no problem issuing them once I get them. There are a few players who will constantly take those shots, and several who will make no effort to avoid a collision (I stop trying to avoid when I start getting that; let's play ram!)

I don't think neither you nor skyyr could manage to thrive (or have fun) in MNM, despite both of you claiming to be about the "fight."  Maybe those "no ho" "no vulch" rules take away your most effective tactics?  :noid  So, just maybe save your passive/aggressive snark for a more suitable arena?  :aok

Or you can try to have fun for an hour now and then.

Oh, and if fun itself isn't a strong enough draw, there's a little ego easter egg here under "snapshots":  https://ahevents.net/index.php/event-logs

I've tried it.  Didn't like it because it was a copy and paste from the MA as I was horded the whole time while also dodging stupid towers and dealing with insane wind speeds when I try to perform legit maneuvers.  Let's not forget the ability to turn on the LCM to allow players to hit shots they wouldn't normally hit.  There's a training arena for that. I'll pass.

My comment wasn't passive aggressive or negative towards MNM or those that enjoy it.  My comment was pointing out that it shouldn't be an issue meaning this post should have never occurred because of the rules that are in place.  Just sounds like they need to be enforced. 

So, try again, dramaqueen.   
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Skyyr on August 13, 2024, 11:45:07 AM
I don't think neither you nor skyyr could manage to thrive (or have fun) in MNM, despite both of you claiming to be about the "fight."

I'd have zero fun. There's no score or winners, so why bother?

If it was like a KOTH setup, I'd participate as those had enforced rules and a clear winner. I don't mind rules if there's a tradeoff in terms of winning or competition; but arbitrary rules that can't even get enforced without threads like these, and "for fun"? lol. That genuinely seems boring AF.
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: scott66 on August 13, 2024, 11:55:08 AM
Seems to me that MNM is filled with dudes who say they hate HO'ing and vulching and then do the majority of HO'ing and vulching.  :huh
well hell...I had a blast! I was there for an hour never got HOed never got vulched(never tried to land either) fun on coms only thing negative that was happening was the disagreement between Jaeger and Shane. It was a pure dogfighting 3v1 1v1 4v4 . Yes I died allot but I had a pocket full of quarters!
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Shane on August 13, 2024, 12:22:59 PM
I've tried it.  Didn't like it because it was a copy and paste from the MA as I was horded the whole time while also dodging stupid towers and dealing with insane wind speeds when I try to perform legit maneuvers.  Let's not forget the ability to turn on the LCM to allow players to hit shots they wouldn't normally hit.  There's a training arena for that. I'll pass.

My comment wasn't passive aggressive or negative towards MNM or those that enjoy it.  My comment was pointing out that it shouldn't be an issue meaning this post should have never occurred because of the rules that are in place.  Just sounds like they need to be enforced. 

So, try again, dramaqueen.

Sounds like a bunch of excuses, "here for the fight" boi; and you're kind of young to be losing all your quick action reflexes, glasses need new rx? Perhaps you rely too much on roping or having an alt advantage to succeed?

20+ kills per hour for several people having fun.

For comparison, here's your MA stats for July:

Scores for Banshee7     in Melee Tour 294 
Kills per Hour of Flight   4.86     <----- must be HO/Vulch/Ropes, maybe a smattering of picks?

20+ kills (well, if you're any good that is) vs about 5...  for an hour a week.

Not seeing how the MNM furball environment is that much different than an MA furball in the sense of SA and picks, clearing 6's. If anything, MNM is more challenging (and fun) than MA furballs. The LCS isn't all you think it is. Take those sketchy front quarter shots, too, if you want!

For all your swol, you're still smol.
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: DmonSlyr on August 13, 2024, 12:27:45 PM
It's more about the quick fight furball to work on SA, defense, and gunnery. It's literally the only place to quick fight now. Too bad it's only monday... should have 1 Saturday too I wish.

Only thing I wish could change is all people on one team to avoid ganging as well as airspawns to avoid any sort of vulching.

Score is pointless here IMO. It should be more about the fun of intense rolls and barrel rolls and close quarter combat. Taking it too seriously ruins it.

I like the buildings, adds another layer of difficulty sorta feels like you are flying through a big city swerving and weaving. Trying to use it to your advantage. It's something different.

I find these sorta of close quarters fights to be some of the most fun in AH if you aren't a dolt trying to take it too seriously .

Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Skyyr on August 13, 2024, 12:28:03 PM
Scores for Banshee7     in Melee Tour 294 
Kills per Hour of Flight   4.86     <----- must be HO/Vulch/Ropes, maybe a smattering of picks?

Your kills per hour for July was 5.33 - not EVEN 1 kill more per hour LOL. Not even .5 more lol.

For August, your Kills per hour drops to 4.93 (Banshee's is 6.08).

Hey Pot, Meet Kettle.

Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: DmonSlyr on August 13, 2024, 12:30:57 PM
Your kills per hour for July was 5.33 - not EVEN 1 kill more per hour LOL. Not even .5 more lol.

Hey Pot, Meet Kettle.

He was comparing K/H for Banshee to MNM. He wasn't comparing himself to Banshee....
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Shane on August 13, 2024, 12:39:13 PM
I'd have zero fun. There's no score or winners, so why bother?

If it was like a KOTH setup, I'd participate as those had enforced rules and a clear winner. I don't mind rules if there's a tradeoff in terms of winning or competition; but arbitrary rules that can't even get enforced without threads like these, and "for fun"? lol. That genuinely seems boring AF.

Yeah, we think you've made it clear ego > fun.   :rofl

However, there is a minor cookie for one's ego as mentioned, under snapshot event, summary for ego-friendly than detail (unless your ego demands an accounting of who you show down)  https://ahevents.net/index.php/event-logs

Here's what the summary for the recent MNM was (I'd have gotten more if I wasn't busy shaking Jaeger off my ankle.  :noid  :joystick: :airplane: )

(https://i.postimg.cc/k5GbxL9H/mnm-1a.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/f34ys2V7)

(https://i.postimg.cc/0jRK1Qmg/mnm-1b.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/6Q887RfJ/mnm-2a.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/zBW37rQx/mnm-2b.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vgYQ8pbn)



Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Skyyr on August 13, 2024, 12:41:27 PM
Yeah, we think you've made it clear ego > fun.   :rofl

However, there is a minor cookie for one's ego as mentioned, under snapshot event, summary for ego-friendly than detail (unless your ego demands an accounting of who you show down)  https://ahevents.net/index.php/event-logs

Here's what the summary for the recent MNM was (I'd have gotten more if I wasn't busy shaking Jaeger off my ankle.  :noid  :joystick: :airplane: )


So what you just told me is the #1 scoring guy in MNM is a guy who can barely break even in the MA and can't get a kill in the DA 1v1. That same guy is a guy who broke the rules and ultimately caused the start of this thread.

Yeah, you're selling the idea that "MNM teaches skill," lol.
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Shane on August 13, 2024, 12:44:42 PM
Your kills per hour for July was 5.33 - not EVEN 1 kill more per hour LOL. Not even .5 more lol.

For August, your Kills per hour drops to 4.93 (Banshee's is 6.08).

Hey Pot, Meet Kettle.

wrong flex... if anything, the fact I can thrive in MNM shows my superior skills.  For the MA I'm playing for a different kind of fun; furballing isn't crucial to my having fun in the MA.   I can see how you would struggle to discern what's being related here since it relates to your avoidance of the concept of "fun."

It's a flex made even more weird by the fact Banshee is a honey badger "all about the fight!"  I'm not, right - I'm soo timid!  And yet my lack of effort beats or nears his goblin mode for, what... K/T?  Does that make me a timid honey badger or him one? Clarity, please.   

Flexing for others  :rofl

Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: fudgums on August 13, 2024, 12:46:20 PM
Not really a lie - your squad name is literally “MNM - Mind your Ho”
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: scott66 on August 13, 2024, 12:46:44 PM
Ya maybe me trying the tu2 in a mnm wasn't such a good choice but it was fun lol
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Skyyr on August 13, 2024, 01:02:54 PM
I can see how you would struggle to discern what's being related here since it relates to your avoidance of the concept of "fun."

Perhaps human psychology evades you or is completely a foreign topic; but despite your projections, people have different definitions of fun.

Fun for me is unbridled competition. Fun for me is not knowing what my opponent is going to choose. Fun for me is having to compete with more options, not less. Quite literally, events like MNM serve to reduce those variables by having less options. Events like these don't teach a transferable skill, they teach bad habits that don't work when those constraints are removed. For example, in what scenario would a low-alt cap ever be present? None. It doesn't exist anywhere except in someone's arbitrary rules. It literally serves as a handicap for the benefit of the players who don't understand the vertical.

Like I said, when the #1 scoring guy can't even get a kill 1v1 when starting on someone's six in the DA, I think it underscores my point quite well.

I'm glad you have an event you attend and I wish it the best of luck, I just have no interest in it.
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Eagler on August 13, 2024, 01:07:43 PM
I enjoy the usual friendly back and forth on the common channel..

The fog, buildings and short icon range add to the fun and uniqueness

The trees could be the fly under style but it's a blast as is

Sorry sky it's not an ego boost for any of us regulars...it would not feed yours adequately from what I have experienced in ma with your weird/psychotic behavior there..feel free to stay away lol

Eagler
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Banshee7 on August 13, 2024, 01:11:41 PM
Only thing I wish could change is all people on one team to avoid ganging as well as airspawns to avoid any sort of vulching.

The two times I was in there, I was one of only two players on my side while there were 7-8 on the other side.  I left after two or three sorties.


Sounds like a bunch of excuses, "here for the fight" boi; and you're kind of young to be losing all your quick action reflexes, glasses need new rx? Perhaps you rely too much on roping or having an alt advantage to succeed?

20+ kills per hour for several people having fun.

For comparison, here's your MA stats for July:

Scores for Banshee7     in Melee Tour 294 
Kills per Hour of Flight   4.86     <----- must be HO/Vulch/Ropes, maybe a smattering of picks?

20+ kills (well, if you're any good that is) vs about 5...  for an hour a week.

Not seeing how the MNM furball environment is that much different than an MA furball in the sense of SA and picks, clearing 6's. If anything, MNM is more challenging (and fun) than MA furballs. The LCS isn't all you think it is. Take those sketchy front quarter shots, too, if you want!

For all your swol, you're still smol.

I have given up on the "fight" mentality because there are none.  A large majority of players don't know how to fight and resort to gang/HO/ram tactics while also climbing to 20k (kinda like you and your LA7).  I have had more fun recently flying straight forward into full red dar bars, challenging myself to fly smart, survive, and create advantages while at a disadvantage.  What's even funnier is the only engagements we've ever had, YOU were the one coming in higher and at an advantage accusing ME of being a weeb because I know how to maintain my E.  You're so bad, your higher, faster, more maneuverable Spit 8 almost lost to a fat, slow P-38 all while I was learning to use Track IR.  Pat yourself on the back, boy, I know you need it.  You are the single most hypocritical player in this game while trying to play victim.

The only superior skills you have are running for pathetic excuse of a mouth.  I can't wait until the next thread you make whining about SOMETHING. 

I can also give a couple of explanations for my K/T (which I have been trying to improve), such as the fact that most players here run for quit upping when there's resistance.  But, I know you'll claim that's only an excuse and make up some other weird name for me.

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: scott66 on August 13, 2024, 01:12:11 PM
I enjoy the usual friendly back and forth on the common channel..

The fog, buildings and short icon range add to the fun and uniqueness

The trees could be the fly under style but it's a blast as is

Sorry sky it's not an ego boost for any of us regulars...it would not feed yours adequately from what I have experienced in ma with your weird/psychotic behavior there..feel free to stay away lol

Eagler
lol I spent the whole time on comms begging for my life or telling the hurricane to hold still lol
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Skyyr on August 13, 2024, 01:17:57 PM
I enjoy the usual friendly back and forth on the common channel..

The fog, buildings and short icon range add to the fun and uniqueness

The trees could be the fly under style but it's a blast as is

Sorry sky it's not an ego boost for any of us regulars...it would not feed yours adequately from what I have experienced in ma with your weird/psychotic behavior there..feel free to stay away lol

Eagler

The guy who made posts about me before I ever came back to the game and commented on my flying, is calling me psychotic for killing him in a video game. In fact, your last death was you flying at me as I was rtb.

You might want to read both a dictionary and Robert Shaw's book again.
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Eagler on August 13, 2024, 01:32:27 PM
Second half of scotts video shows some of the fun possibilities

https://www.youtube.com/live/v95VFfg2b4g?si=NOGINODU78lVtHhY

With the small map it takes just a handful of players for fast non stop action

Glad you enjoyed it scott66!

Eagler
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: scott66 on August 13, 2024, 01:41:04 PM
Second half of scotts video shows some of the fun possibilities

https://www.youtube.com/live/v95VFfg2b4g?si=NOGINODU78lVtHhY

With the small map it takes just a handful of players for fast non stop action

Glad you enjoyed it scott66!

Eagler
it was exciting but I'm not looking to learn how to improve my skills I'm just looking to have fun.. im a mumbler turned down sound  on video
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Skyyr on August 13, 2024, 01:44:50 PM
it was exciting but I'm not looking to learn how to improve my skills I'm just looking to have fun.. im a mumbler turned down sound  on video

Let's get you some ACM lessons. Let's meet up next time you're on. You have Discord?
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Shane on August 13, 2024, 01:51:18 PM
So what you just told me is the #1 scoring guy in MNM is a guy who can barely break even in the MA and can't get a kill in the DA 1v1. That same guy is a guy who broke the rules and ultimately caused the start of this thread.

Yeah, you're selling the idea that "MNM teaches skill," lol.

not at all.  you have a weird way of trying to twist the narrative once your statements are found to be... lacking.

There's no "#1" MNM player, no cumulative stats that would indicate of there were indeed one.  What you have is a collection of pilots, some of which do better than others in the MNM environment and a weekly ability to stroke your ego if you wanted to use the events page data. (The log has to turned on for the event for the data to be compiled. Sometimes this doesn't happen so no data exists that event.)

Not sure who you're trying to flex on with the MA/DA comments?  Me?  LoFL!  When there was an actual organic duel set up in MA (same plane, same alt) encounter - you didn't even last three turns!  E-management, baybeeeee!

How about the recent one where you missed your ho (so did I, lucky for you) rammed me (no msg my end, boi) and I let you limp home.

When it comes down to actual non-picks or rams, our record is a lot closer.  If I had better aim, our record would be even closer. You know how many times you managed to limp home after encountering me? Did I let you go, in some cases, yeah, for reasons.

I still get a hilarious kick out of owning you over 10 mins while your passenger, Scoober2, was trying to bait me into thinking it was him, not you, and the level of failed smack on his end was made so delicious when I got the "You shot down egoboi" message.

film #1  The most DAish MA engagement with egoboi - watch it all before you try and spin the narrative. How many times the merge got reset? (the last 1 min is where it's at.  Lookit that awesome e-management.

Film #2  This is where egoboi has scoober2 riding with him (I hope it was live streamed, lofl) talking smack.  Sat on egoboi's head for 5+ mins, then popped him.

Film #3  this was the sortie right before film #2 in which i kindly let egoboi limp home (not the first time, either) after pwnsaucing him hard.

Film #4 Just to show you my assertion about film #3 has basis in fact with a bonus one-sided ram and missed HO's by both!

Work on your reversals, Skyyr, they don't get it done, except by luck, vs those who do possess skills.
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: scott66 on August 13, 2024, 02:00:19 PM
Let's get you some ACM lessons. Let's meet up next time you're on. You have Discord?
scotty8538
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Shane on August 13, 2024, 02:05:24 PM
Not really a lie - your squad name is literally “MNM - Mind your Ho”

You have an issue reminding people of the most commonly violated rule in MNM? 

Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Shane on August 13, 2024, 02:07:49 PM
Perhaps human psychology evades you or is completely a foreign topic; but despite your projections, people have different definitions of fun.

Fun for me is unbridled competition. Fun for me is not knowing what my opponent is going to choose. Fun for me is having to compete with more options, not less. Quite literally, events like MNM serve to reduce those variables by having less options. Events like these don't teach a transferable skill, they teach bad habits that don't work when those constraints are removed. For example, in what scenario would a low-alt cap ever be present? None. It doesn't exist anywhere except in someone's arbitrary rules. It literally serves as a handicap for the benefit of the players who don't understand the vertical.

Like I said, when the #1 scoring guy can't even get a kill 1v1 when starting on someone's six in the DA, I think it underscores my point quite well.

I'm glad you have an event you attend and I wish it the best of luck, I just have no interest in it.

Naw, I'm good on my grasp of psychology and human motivations - pegged you from the get-go. 

Your ego truly prevents you from having fun, let alone realizing what fun actually is.

btw, who is this #1 scoring person you keep alluding to?  Your metric seems flawed as you try to compare apples to peanuts.

Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: DmonSlyr on August 13, 2024, 02:33:55 PM
Perhaps human psychology evades you or is completely a foreign topic; but despite your projections, people have different definitions of fun.

Fun for me is unbridled competition. Fun for me is not knowing what my opponent is going to choose. Fun for me is having to compete with more options, not less. Quite literally, events like MNM serve to reduce those variables by having less options. Events like these don't teach a transferable skill, they teach bad habits that don't work when those constraints are removed. For example, in what scenario would a low-alt cap ever be present? None. It doesn't exist anywhere except in someone's arbitrary rules. It literally serves as a handicap for the benefit of the players who don't understand the vertical.

Like I said, when the #1 scoring guy can't even get a kill 1v1 when starting on someone's six in the DA, I think it underscores my point quite well.

I'm glad you have an event you attend and I wish it the best of luck, I just have no interest in it.

This is hilarious coming from someone who has to look at outside stats pages to figure out what plane someone is in so they can create an advantage off it it   :rofl
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Skyyr on August 13, 2024, 02:59:37 PM
This is hilarious coming from someone who has to look at outside stats pages to figure out what plane someone is in so they can create an advantage off it it   :rofl

Imagine thinking its normal not to use tools available to you. lol
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Skyyr on August 13, 2024, 03:00:26 PM
Not sure who you're trying to flex on with the MA/DA comments?  Me?

No, I wasn't talking about you. You weren't the top scoring guy in the MNM screenshot nor did you start on my six in the DA. Go back and check the stats and you'll realize it's Eagler I was referring to. Reading and comprehension isn't a strongsuit of yours, is it?

Work on your reversals, Skyyr, they don't get it done, except by luck, vs those who do possess skills.

Don't talk to me about reversals, lmao

https://youtu.be/wa3vNgpl22k?si=LDhtbBoIgyJ2UhEg&t=328



Better luck next time, zip.

https://youtu.be/3k42YOgZ1GE
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: DmonSlyr on August 13, 2024, 03:20:40 PM
Imagine thinking its normal not to use tools available to you. lol

Okay, so you do need to know what your opponent (cough the person you are targeting) is going to choose...
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Shane on August 13, 2024, 04:07:55 PM
No, I wasn't talking about you. You weren't the top scoring guy in the MNM screenshot nor did you start on my six in the DA. Go back and check the stats and you'll realize it's Eagler I was referring to. Reading and comprehension isn't a strongsuit of yours, is it?

Don't talk to me about reversals, lmao

https://youtu.be/wa3vNgpl22k?si=LDhtbBoIgyJ2UhEg&t=328



Better luck next time, zip.

https://youtu.be/3k42YOgZ1GE



No, I figured you meant Eagler, but wanted you to own it.  But once again, Eagler is not the #1 in MNM, perhaps that particular day but not overall by any discernible metric.  You could go back thru the year, compile the weekly kills and come up with the person who had the most "kills" in MNM, bearing in mind proxies occur quite often as those buildings and low ground effects grab planes.  Landing is not a regular occurrance, some do when they had a nice streak, or are damaged enough to want to try and make it out of the furball.

Was that the reversal where you slammed the brakes in panic, got torn up by me (kill msg woot!) and I hit your falling apart plane and augered in?  That was funny.  Or was it the lucky I missed one?  Seriously, I have often torn you up and let you go. Probably even more times than you HO/rammed and claimed a win as you go down (like that one I mentioned above, but without the HO part.)

This one.  Hilarious, made more so by the facts that you were in a Temp and dropped gear.  :joystick: :airplane: :rofl :ahand :neener:

It seems you're still butthurt I laughed and walked out on you in the DA - then proceed to clock you in MA when I can be bothered.  That Scoober2 ride-along was also hilarious.
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Skyyr on August 13, 2024, 04:12:11 PM

This one.  Hilarious, made more so by the facts that you were in a Temp and dropped gear.  :joystick: :airplane: :rofl :ahand :neener:


And you died. Had you not went or the shot, you would have lost. So either way, you died vulching a Tempest on takeoff.

Thanks for the kill this past weekend. Ill upload it shortly.
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Eagler on August 13, 2024, 04:19:48 PM
If it doesn't feed the boys ego he's not interested

That's why he lives in a game

Eagler
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Shane on August 13, 2024, 04:45:25 PM
Imagine thinking its normal not to use tools available to you. lol

The TA is available if you want to work on your reversals with me. (You almost made it the first film posted, not so much the others.)  I also notice your target fixation (ego) getting you killed more than it might should. Take film #2 as an example.  Did I need the help? Did I ask for it? Did I get a kill stolen from me? 

Those aren't the questions to be asking. The question is: did you let your target fixation get you killed? It's not the first time I led you to your death from it. And it seems to happen to you a lot.

Perhaps you're not using the tool you think you use best, your brain.  TA time might help.  Maybe even MNM will get you off the fixation and more on the evasion. 

Balance.  :aok



Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: LCADolby on August 13, 2024, 05:00:15 PM
Gentlemen can we just settle this nonsense here and agree that you all have small dicks.
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Shane on August 13, 2024, 05:00:56 PM
And you died. Had you not went or the shot, you would have lost. So either way, you died vulching a Tempest on takeoff.

Thanks for the kill this past weekend. Ill upload it shortly.

lofl again with the twisting of the narrative... we already went over this and how it went down.  "Taking off" and having almost 300ias when we merge? lofl.

You lost. In a temp, dropping gear - I shredded your panic with my guns, look at the hit sprites, lofl.  You didn't even watch the film to see how it was nowhere near a "vulch on my taking off tempest."  Seriously, lofl.

Again, a film with your target fixation (ego) getting you killed.  Want me to ride along and watch your 6 for you? Scoober2 did it poorly.
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Shane on August 13, 2024, 05:16:06 PM
Gentlemen can we just settle this nonsense here and agree that you all have small dicks.

Just passing time to see if/how Jaeger responds since I told him I was posting about Eagler being the "vulch" that set him off on me with those allegations.

It took me a bit to figure out why Jaeger jumped on my ankle - at the time I thought maybe it was a proxy of sorts as I was engaged against a plane Jaeger doesn't normally fly. That's why I told him to check his film as I was nowhere near his base.  Jaeger then went off on me for a good 10 mins with his bs.

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZRhdvHYB/chk-ur-film.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Skyyr saw an opportunity to ego vulch Eagler in this thread and ended up getting  :ahand from me.   :banana:
Banshee missed his pick and is still extending from this thread, apparently.  :bolt:


Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Skyyr on August 13, 2024, 05:23:22 PM
Thanks for the fight this weekend Shane. May wanna work on those reversals.

This was #29. 29 - 10

https://youtu.be/ctno3CcAD0M

Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Shane on August 13, 2024, 06:01:36 PM
Thanks for the fight this weekend Shane. May wanna work on those reversals.
 

Nah, bruh, you know compared to the ones you generally encounter that I'm more than capable of dealing with you - I just can't be bothered to.

And that bothers you.

Imagine if my aim (or even motivation) was at the place it used to be - you'd be towering more than you have. And I don't even need to do weebzy things like toggling engine, dropping gear, or ho/rammming to  :ahand you. 

Still hilarious how you claim a win as you go down missing your wing. Not once, but at least twice!  (kind of sure there may be another one or two.) 

You seem to collide alot.  TA time might help - fly opposite direction from the drones and play chicken with them.

Film #1  Cute how you waited until I died to bail from your wingless spit and then bragged your kill count thingy.   :rofl

Film #2  5 second clip (I need to find the original.)  Also claiming a "win" on your counting thingy despite being on fire.  :rofl 

I know how good I am and you're not as good as you think you are.  :neener:
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Skyyr on August 13, 2024, 06:29:18 PM
 

Nah, bruh, you know compared to the ones you generally encounter that I'm more than capable of dealing with you - I just can't be bothered to.

And that bothers you.

Imagine if my aim (or even motivation) was at the place it used to be - you'd be towering more than you have. And I don't even need to do weebzy things like toggling engine, dropping gear, or ho/rammming to  :ahand you. 

Still hilarious how you claim a win as you go down missing your wing. Not once, but at least twice!  (kind of sure there may be another one or two.) 

You seem to collide alot.  TA time might help - fly opposite direction from the drones and play chicken with them.

Film #1  Cute how you waited until I died to bail from your wingless spit and then bragged your kill count thingy.   :rofl

Film #2  5 second clip (I need to find the original.)  Also claiming a "win" on your counting thingy despite being on fire.  :rofl 

I know how good I am and you're not as good as you think you are.  :neener:

Translation: "I used to be good."

Remember to take your insulin.

29 - 10
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Shane on August 13, 2024, 06:52:02 PM
Translation: "I used to be good. " Remember to take your insulin.
29 - 10

Good enough to kill you twice in one sortie with the second while you were actively hunting me.  Scoober2 really let you down.   :joystick: :airplane: :ahand :ahand

Don't think you've ever managed twice in one sortie on me.  Twice in one sortie! Just me and you (and Scoober2, too)!   :ahand :ahand ( :ahand)

And I wasn't even trying! I was toying! You're pretty easy to lead around on a leash from either my 6 or 12.

TA time to work on your collision avoidance and twisty turny hot watermelon pilot stuff is my protip for you.  Why TA? Saves time reupping.

Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Skyyr on August 13, 2024, 07:00:38 PM
I suck so I'm going to deflect from my 29 losses

29 - 10 brah

Better luck next time.
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Shane on August 13, 2024, 07:12:50 PM
29 - 10 brah

Better luck next time.

Why do I need luck when I've let you go missing parts? My ego doesn't need a kill message to confirm I owned you. The "count" is way closer than you care to admit which is why it's sitting on your sigline - it's too close for you to feel comfortable in claiming any ownage. I'm sorry I can't be bothered to provide you with the challenge you're craving. Your bait is weaksauce.  :rolleyes:

Your ego blinds you to the manipulation you're experiencing.  :noid   Mine allows me experience in knowing which of your strings to pull (when I can be bothered.)  :old: 

So many memories of squeektoys thru the years in these virtual skies. Your squeeking is bumping you up the list - you might even reach midway status! Don't get excited, he was middling at most. But goals! You do you!
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Skyyr on August 13, 2024, 07:39:40 PM
Why do I need luck when I've let you go missing parts? My ego doesn't need a kill message to confirm I owned you. The "count" is way closer than you care to admit which is why it's sitting on your sigline - it's too close for you to feel comfortable in claiming any ownage. I'm sorry I can't be bothered to provide you with the challenge you're craving. Your bait is weaksauce.  :rolleyes:

Your ego blinds you to the manipulation you're experiencing.  :noid   Mine allows me experience in knowing which of your strings to pull (when I can be bothered.)  :old: 

So many memories of squeektoys thru the years in these virtual skies. Your squeeking is bumping you up the list - you might even reach midway status! Don't get excited, he was middling at most. But goals! You do you!

If you actually believed your own words, you wouldn't type literal paragraphs and essays in response to half sentences.

29 - 10 lol
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Shane on August 13, 2024, 07:53:41 PM
If you actually believed your own words, you wouldn't type literal paragraphs and essays in response to half sentences.

29 - 10 lol

Nothing for either of us to believe. Keep begging, tho'

I mean I've been giving you tips and having to explain why you might benefit from them. That ego - it blinds you in several ways (but might explain all the ho/rams you seem to be involved in.)   :blank:  :o

But to be fair to you, you don't get enough credit for your generosity in giving out proxies as long as your ego got its fix.  :salute
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Animl-AW on August 14, 2024, 05:21:11 AM
Look Skycryer will HO, will pick someone already in a fight, use toys to win, and then brag like a disturbed child. Toxic poison to the game. just gamg, pick and HO him. You have to play by his rules, dirty.. NEVER DA him, deprive him of that too.

There’s a reason he doesn’t post films

Just play dirty before he plays dirty with you.

Without his toys he, only good at 15k with speed, like anyone else.


I’m sure squeak toy say childish things to this. FE
Stop toying with this dweeb
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Eagler on August 14, 2024, 06:29:21 AM
The fact that one would know stats against each player is sorta disturbing in itself...

Keeps him off rooftops or wandering around with a rangefinder I guess...

Eagler
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Animl-AW on August 14, 2024, 10:51:40 AM
Nothing for either of us to believe. Keep begging, tho'

I mean I've been giving you tips and having to explain why you might benefit from them. That ego - it blinds you in several ways (but might explain all the ho/rams you seem to be involved in.)   :blank:  :o

But to be fair to you, you don't get enough credit for your generosity in giving out proxies as long as your ego got its fix.  :salute

Don’t even reply to him, here nor 200, don’t give him his idiotic voice. Just the fact he knows you read it gives him some form of sick jolly. Don’t give him any voice.

The sooner he is gone the sooner we get 15-20 players back who left because of him.
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Skyyr on August 14, 2024, 11:19:17 AM

Without his toys he, only good at 15k with speed, like anyone else.


Nah, this dude couldn't even get a kill starting on my 6. Maybe you know him.

So much for that theory lolol

https://youtu.be/8whuyoLEpa0


Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Animl-AW on August 14, 2024, 04:04:58 PM
Are you ready?
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: captain1ma on August 20, 2024, 04:02:02 PM
I'll leave this so jaeger1 can see how mistaken he was in his claim that I vulched him a second time.

30 seconds:  Eagler (G2) is on Jaeger's(Hurri2) six.  I'm a good 4k away. 
40-43 seconds:  Jaeger was close to his own base and Eagler took off his wing.  Ack was not firing yet that my film picked up.
43 - 51 seconds: As Jaeger's Hurri was floating down, AKBaloo was on Eagler's six. He was missing.
52 seconds: Eagler augers in his evasives, AKBaloo got the kill on Eagler.
56 seconds: Jaeger's Hurri2 finally crashed, I get a kill.

Why I got a kill when I was 4k away? My film starts at an air launch, so I must've gotten hits on Jaeger in the previous sortie and due to internet/server reasons and since Eagler died before Jaeger went in, the kill defaulted to me.

1:13 - Jaeger starts going in on me (the screenshot) - completely mistaken in his assertion I vulched him there when it was Eagler.
1:36 - He adds on.
2:12 - I respond to Jaeger's erroneous assertion.

I would normally have walked him back with what I thought happened in that moment, but the way he latched on my ankle made me shake it and here we are.

If you come at me, get your facts straight. Go check your film, if you don't film, start.

Jaeger (or anyone) if you have any accusations about me, let me know about them in the moment instead of whatever it was you were trying to do. I won't even go into what other claims Jaeger was making over the next 15 minutes simply because of the way he kept doubling down on his mistaken perception.

Screen shot @1:36

film is 2:14

Jaeger was wrong. Period.


(https://i.postimg.cc/fbBTmZK4/not-me-jaeg.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

shane, if thats the case, i stand corrected, but you got the kill not eagler, therefore i assumed it was you. i apologize. i was wrong. its not beneath me to admit when im wrong. but you'll notice, you got the kill so you can hardly blame me!!
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: Eagler on August 20, 2024, 04:07:07 PM
Jaeger1 took it out on me last night so all is good in MNM

 :cheers:

Eagler
Title: Re: Jaeger - Eagler "vulched" you, not me
Post by: captain1ma on August 20, 2024, 05:51:31 PM
Jaeger1 took it out on me last night so all is good in MNM

 :cheers:

Eagler

 :aok