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Title: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: AKKuya on July 18, 2025, 04:21:01 PM
Does Aces High possess the capability of improving with a whole new updated version?  Would that appeal to present day gamers?  Can a WW2 based combat flight simulator compete against missiles and jet aircraft?

Hypothetical:

Would an existing player who had the money be able to buy the game, hire a team of programmers, and market Aces High 4?

or,

Will Dale sell the game to a gaming company?


This is the real question pertaining to all the comments and suggestions for the game.


If I had the money, then I would buy the game and hire programmers plus start marketing the new version.  That's me.  I once started a topic on the players buying the game over a decade ago for a million dollars.  Dale responded X 5 for the amount.  What would be the asking price now?

Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: haggerty on July 18, 2025, 04:44:48 PM
You'd be better off making your own game than buying this one and making an Aces High 4.  There isnt a following large enough to justify paying money for the player base.  A solid WW2 open world flight sim would draw the players away on its own.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: AKKuya on July 18, 2025, 06:52:04 PM
You'd be better off making your own game than buying this one and making an Aces High 4.  There isnt a following large enough to justify paying money for the player base.  A solid WW2 open world flight sim would draw the players away on its own.

There is potential for bringing in tons of new and returning players.  It's about innovation and sustainability. 

Innovation requires fresh talent to create the new game at the core level of code and programming.  They would begin a new chapter in Aces High. 

Sustainability happens by keeping the methods of the game that works best. 
1) Monthly subscription that entitles a player to full access of all features
2) Limited free access to online content to peek at what is more to get with subscription
3)  Keeping the 3 chess piece countries for tradition


Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: potsNpans on July 18, 2025, 06:56:43 PM
If you build it they will come... or you could just offer a service or two
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on July 18, 2025, 07:18:41 PM
This comes up every couple months.
There are a lot of moving parts that can all go different directions.

The only true answers have to come from HT, and it's not going to be done on a bbs. The best way to find out is make him an offer on the phone or in person. Anything else is pure speculation, no matter who says it.
Can it be updated to say Unreal Engine? only HT could answer that. My assumption is yes....with work.

I think many of us learned the hard way with Air Warrior that selling to another gaming company could be almost certain death. OR they redo it to go a totally different direction.

5 million could be a decent price depending on future plans for it and are they marketable. of course 5m depends on when that price was made and how big the player base then and now.....either way the work is worth that.

NOW,.. to update it to say Unreal Engine,... and lets say everything goes smoothly,....depending on the level of updating,.... you're looking at 3-9 months of work with maybe 5 on the payroll. So that's is where your loss or gain begin.
 Depending on how many players you draw, how soon can you break even on that 5-6m. Topped with is it enough to do a major update it at least every 5 years. It is some serious gamble, not for the weak-hearted. I will say, it seems most 3d engines are at a point where it's as good as they can get, I don't think there is much room left to update to, maybe up date it to the best engine and small updates along the way.... unless we go hologram.

Despite a few bugs I wouldn't notice unless someone mentioned them, you have a very solid game. Most of the things brought up on bbs is some nit picking by the same group <ducks from projectiles> that usually turns out to be just controlling human nature with wack-a-moe than bugs or bad design. Maps and skins are still be created/updated. The FM is very good.
Yep, we'd all love to see an update, and I think most agree an update would draw back much of the former base and new players.....again,... that's what we think,.. it's a gamble.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on July 18, 2025, 07:28:09 PM
There is potential for bringing in tons of new and returning players.  It's about innovation and sustainability. 

Innovation requires fresh talent to create the new game at the core level of code and programming.  They would begin a new chapter in Aces High. 

Sustainability happens by keeping the methods of the game that works best. 
1) Monthly subscription that entitles a player to full access of all features
2) Limited free access to online content to peek at what is more to get with subscription
3)  Keeping the 3 chess piece countries for tradition

I agree on most you said. Everyone has their own ideas on marketing. right now it comes to reaching out with videos. Some of us have done that and with some results. we had it up to 200 in the MA last year, but had some unfortunate incidents that chased some off. Some are working on rebuilding that.

1) The problem I see with letting trials into the MA, is you will end up with leap-frog players who bounce from game to game, have no intention of committing to it, just trying to game the games. Think there is some dweebery now?,.. unleash that bowl of spaghetti on the MA, won't be pleasant I ASSUME.
2) You get most for free now, except certain arenas.
3) Again, I agree, not just for tradition, it just works, as long as you have above critical mass, for the MA is about 110-120. Above that the game starts rocking in all 3 countries.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: hazmatt on July 18, 2025, 10:09:43 PM
Does Aces High possess the capability of improving with a whole new updated version?  Would that appeal to present day gamers?  Can a WW2 based combat flight simulator compete against missiles and jet aircraft?

In the game I currently play that has hundreds of thousands of players there are planes from just after WWI all the way to the newest jets. There are a great many players that play the WW2 stuff almost exclusively even though jets and wish em dead weapons are available. Based on this and IL2 GB Combat pilot and the other one I forgot the name of coming online I think there's a big marked for WW2 based combat sims.

I think the difference is that they are evolving and I am not aware of any other then AH3 that have payment models that are only subscription based. I don't think it would be too tough to modify AH to model some of these other sims. You could make ENY purchasable, you could do a progression starting in an early war arena with high eny planes and then progressing though to mid and late war areas. You could make planes purchasable.

I think that it would be doable but I think you would have to get the the interest of those players in the other sims. I do think there is also a big base of previous players that may be able to be convinced to come back based on what changed.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: uptown on July 19, 2025, 09:08:33 AM
I'd rather buy cattle. I can't eat a video game
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on July 19, 2025, 10:43:35 AM
If not for subs, Ah may have dumped yrs ago.
Look at the problems of other sims. If they didn’t have a massive player base they would fold. AH is surviving a smaller base, the others mathematically cannot survive this. One is having big problem with a huge player base.

Many don’t do basic math, in the long run they pay as much, or more. Its mental, its marketing. Smoke and mirrors.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: The Fugitive on July 19, 2025, 12:12:38 PM
Does Aces High possess the capability of improving with a whole new updated version? 

What kind of update is really needed? A higher poly count interior is about it. The skins look great at a 200-400 mph closure, even slow in a rope they look good.

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Would that appeal to present day gamers?  Can a WW2 based combat flight simulator compete against missiles and jet aircraft?

There are many WWII sims out there, some are doing well. If they werent there, like in the old days, they would still be flying AH.

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Hypothetical:

Would an existing player who had the money be able to buy the game, hire a team of programmers, and market Aces High 4?

or,

Will Dale sell the game to a gaming company?


This is the real question pertaining to all the comments and suggestions for the game.


If I had the money, then I would buy the game and hire programmers plus start marketing the new version.  That's me.  I once started a topic on the players buying the game over a decade ago for a million dollars.  Dale responded X 5 for the amount.  What would be the asking price now?

I seriously doubt Hitech would sell the game any time soon, to us or another game company. Nobody but Hitech knows the numbers but lets do a bit of wild speculation.

500 players x $14.95 a month = just under $7500, x 12 months = just under $70k a year. Im sure his server is paid up by now, he has had it a few years. Electricity and cooling are something he pays anyway because the server is in his home so you can call it a wash. That leaves connection and maintenance. An average T1 connection in Texas is $750 a month, fiber is less for 5GB. AH uses many small packets, so Im unsure of the up/down data stream that is needed, so call it $10k a year. That leaves him $60k to cover his maintenance of the servers. A nice sum for not a lot of work any more seeing as he build a pretty bullet proof game.

Im sure there are more than 500 subscriptions, and Im sure there are other costs involved with keeping the game running, but $60k is a nice little income Id be happy with, wouldnt you?

I dont know the cost of living in Texas, but 60k is a nice income here in New England for poking at a keyboard from home for a couple hours a day. Why would he give that up? He still seems to be involved with the game. He gave me the OK to start a Discord Server (https://discord.gg/yxyGqer2Bn), he is still checking and approving maps as they are built or edited, he is  still adding skins as they are made and approved, he monitors the BBS and edits where necessary. Maybe the more he works on the game the more interested he will be to dig deeper into things. Maybe he'll add a new plane, who knows.

I truely believe he isnt going to sell the game, not now, not for awhile.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: hitech on July 19, 2025, 03:57:04 PM
$7500, x 12 months = just under $70k a year.

Math must not be a strong point of yours.

HiTech
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: AKIron on July 19, 2025, 04:02:24 PM
T1? Do they still sell those? I see Frontier offers 7GB business connections for $149. 25 years ago a T1 would cost you over a grand a month. T1 is 1.544Mbps.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: The Fugitive on July 19, 2025, 04:10:10 PM
Math must not be a strong point of yours.

HiTech

LOL!!!! true, but it was all made up numbers anyway but it still proves the point I was trying to make...... Why sell? Its still a good income..... even if my numbers came up $20k shy   :)
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on July 19, 2025, 06:23:11 PM
Slipping into darkness.....Depending on standard of living, a family of 2-3 must hit over $70k+ per year for the stress of meeting bills starts to subside, and still take a small vacation.  Now if you have a loaded bank account and $60-70k per yr, you're probably keeping your nose above water and retaining that savings.

We all have blind ideas and perceptions.  I'm sure HT has a few laughs and rolling eyes.

The scary part of updating to higher poly counts is another gamble. Lets say we up the poly count........ya may have just lost about 1/4 of your current devoted players who would have to upgrade gear to play it,...some might afford it, some may walk away with a broken heart. Would it be enough that you get enough replacements and beyond to offset that? How far can we up the count before losing some long time dedicated players? The fact this game can play on old computers quite well is a great thing. I don't play other games, so I'm not sure,...but for some of these players AH is their whole life. I personally wouldn't have the heart to push them out with higher requirements beyond what they have.

For me, totally opinion,.... it's either go real $big$,... or just add some fresh visual$,... which is why I lean towards FX (broken record). If I ever got a green light I would certainly dig into it.

I'm totally speaking from the twilight zone, as without HT's extended input, we all are. bbs general is prolly not the place for that convo beyond this. Way too many fingers in the pie. We don't know what the limitations are under the current engine.

Some people complain, ya make changes, then they move the goal post of demands.

I'm not sure selling it is a great idea. Prolly cause some of us got burned before, stigmatized. We had our hopes, rightfully so, it just didn't go as wished.


Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Dadtallica on July 19, 2025, 08:50:06 PM
I would be up for some sweat equity. I know how to do some stuff.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: mERv on July 20, 2025, 11:20:01 AM
Does Aces High possess the capability of improving with a whole new updated version?  Would that appeal to present day gamers?  Can a WW2 based combat flight simulator compete against missiles and jet aircraft?

Hypothetical:

Would an existing player who had the money be able to buy the game, hire a team of programmers, and market Aces High 4?

or,

Will Dale sell the game to a gaming company?


This is the real question pertaining to all the comments and suggestions for the game.


If I had the money, then I would buy the game and hire programmers plus start marketing the new version.  That's me.  I once started a topic on the players buying the game over a decade ago for a million dollars.  Dale responded X 5 for the amount.  What would be the asking price now?

If I remember correctly he expects the game to last another 10 years. A year or two ago he said he would sell for 1.5 million USD.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: mERv on July 20, 2025, 11:21:17 AM
Math must not be a strong point of yours.

HiTech
   GOT EM  :rofl :aok
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: mERv on July 20, 2025, 11:25:06 AM
LOL!!!! true, but it was all made up numbers anyway but it still proves the point I was trying to make...... Why sell? Its still a good income..... even if my numbers came up $20k shy   :)
I think your sub-conscious was calculating taxes and overhead you just forgot to add that to your comment  :cheers:
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: The Fugitive on July 20, 2025, 12:02:40 PM
I think your sub-conscious was calculating taxes and overhead you just forgot to add that to your comment  :cheers:

LOL!!! Hitech has his issues (spelling), I have mine  :neener:
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: AKKuya on July 20, 2025, 12:14:20 PM
If I remember correctly he expects the game to last another 10 years. A year or two ago he said he would sell for 1.5 million USD.

If that's true, then a Go Fund Me campaign is possible.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: uptown on July 20, 2025, 12:16:30 PM
Y'all could drive over to Grapevine with an investment check. 25 yrs and the price to play has never went up. The price for everything from then to now has doubled in price and the man lost all his staff. Making maps, skins and videos don't pay the bills.  :salute
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: mERv on July 20, 2025, 12:16:52 PM
If that's true, then a Go Fund Me campaign is possible.

 :cheers:

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,411045.0.html

 :salute
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on July 20, 2025, 12:38:01 PM
Y'all could drive over to Grapevine with an investment check. 25 yrs and the price to play has never went up. The price for everything from then to now has doubled in price and the man lost all his staff. Making maps, skins and videos don't pay the bills.  :salute

The thing doone are meant to draw some players. Its at no cost. My goal wasn’t just more players but also more revenue to afford something. <shrug>
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: uptown on July 20, 2025, 12:39:11 PM
Or double the subscription price so it'd be an ongoing source of revenue instead of a one time donation.  :salute

Ya can't milk a cow for 50 cents a day forever. At some point the cost of feed goes up.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Randy1 on July 24, 2025, 02:08:20 PM
When generations start being replaced by following generations, what is important changes as well.

You can even see it on antiques road show.  You see the shift in what is valuable now vs twenty years ago.  Even old farm  tractors value has changed.  As our generation declines so does what we thought was something that needs to be preserved no longer is considered important.

WW2 interest is mostly left to the historians as we die off.  911 is soon to follow I am sad to say.

Sadly too as all of this slips away under the cry new apps are for the cellphone glued to the eyes of the recent generations.   Equally as sad is the term "Smart Phone" in the hands of those that are so poorly educated.

AH is only valuable to us still alive  from our generation.   The good news is  we still like blowing each other up.  That is not going to change as  long as we can hold a joystick inside our finger's grip. :cool:
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: AKKuya on September 01, 2025, 04:26:23 PM
Punching some simple numbers in the calculator, I used a monthly subscription of 5000 players.  That totaled $75,000.  5000 subscriptions is a good goal.

Minus taxes and maintenance/overhead, maybe $30,000?

What would the going salary of a good game developer cost?  $5000 per month?  4 game developers could be possible.

Hire two marketing employees to handle viral content and be social influencing.

It would be possible to gain traction.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on September 01, 2025, 04:53:31 PM
Punching some simple numbers in the calculator, I used a monthly subscription of 5000 players.  That totaled $75,000.  5000 subscriptions is a good goal.

Minus taxes and maintenance/overhead, maybe $30,000?

What would the going salary of a good game developer cost?  $5000 per month?  4 game developers could be possible.

Hire two marketing employees to handle viral content and be social influencing.

It would be possible to gain traction.


IMO, you should deep research current available players in the genre in top 3-5 sims.
The way I see it, its caught in a catch 22. Its due a graphic upgrade, to pay fir that you need a minimal count to afford it, yet its hard to draw them in with aged graphics to get that number.

Therefore, ya need an investor who will gamble on it. Then you can start to lose control of it. It’s totally “possible”. But our first example 25 yrs ago was not a positive turnout.

Any upgrade would need to be significant enough to draw from those top 3-5 sims. You already have a better game play.


Fleeting thoughts
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: LCADolby on September 02, 2025, 11:40:56 AM
AcesHigh is worth buying. HiTech's creation deserves to outlive us all. :old:
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Dadtallica on September 02, 2025, 12:24:21 PM
AcesHigh is worth buying. HiTech's creation deserves to outlive us all. :old:

$1M-$2M would be a fair asking price, he would probably be negotiated down quite a bit. Would all depend what someone wanted it for. Wonder if the combat pilot crew has ever made an offer.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: LCADolby on September 02, 2025, 01:08:08 PM
$1M-$2M would be a fair asking price, he would probably be negotiated down quite a bit. Would all depend what someone wanted it for. Wonder if the combat pilot crew has ever made an offer.

I looked behind the sofa cushions and failed to find such a sum. Low personal living expenses/needs, meaningful efforts to improve the game to keep it running and more passion to keep it alive than the next man is all I will ever be able to offer.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Dadtallica on September 02, 2025, 02:24:54 PM
I looked behind the sofa cushions and failed to find such a sum. Low personal living expenses/needs, meaningful efforts to improve the game to keep it running and more passion to keep it alive than the next man is all I will ever be able to offer.

It’s worth what someone would pay of course. Intellectual property alone could be valued at $1M. Thats just the code itself and what surrounds it, the individual plane models and server environment. Some of those things are fairly unique in the flight sim world.

I have had GPT do extensive deep research on this for some time. I have a whole project dedicated to AH in my GPT. I use it for gameplay and to discuss and table top the things we chat about here.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on September 02, 2025, 02:52:41 PM
Well,
Putting plans and negotiation tactics in open air is the last place you want to start. He’s mist likely going to read, but not reply, nor would I.

Every question requires a private sit-down with HT.

Everyone is just guessing from their POV.

HT also watched what happened to AW. I’m not so sure he would want his gem going that route. He’s not starving or in disparate situation to give someone a bargain.

If thats the case, the effort would be to get and keep numbers up to afford an update. If this can’t be done then gambling odds diminish.

If ya can’t get numbers up in this case ya shouldn’t own it.

No one is proving that deep core concept.

We had a momentum going last yr, it was broken by several incidents. One being saying we need numbers then more post about how great another game is. “You’re fired. Not to mention more severe stupid.

Right now, no one is proving they should own it. Some suggestions I see here, thise oeople should never touch coding.

Great intensions tho, god bless ya
No offense intended

If ya got the money, talk to HT, not here.

BTW, I believe AH is savable
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: AKKuya on September 02, 2025, 07:19:38 PM
I know nothing about coding and programming.  I tap the power button and click the desktop icons.  I know that buying the game requires hiring talent to code and program the game.

I'm sure Dale gets a kick out of our ideas due to our not knowing anything on the true business model of the game he created and runs.  He keeps that information to himself especially the true count of monthly subscriptions.  We guess.

We do have passion.  We do have the BBS to vent and amuse.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on September 02, 2025, 09:45:01 PM
I know nothing about coding and programming.  I tap the power button and click the desktop icons.  I know that buying the game requires hiring talent to code and program the game.

I'm sure Dale gets a kick out of our ideas due to our not knowing anything on the true business model of the game he created and runs.  He keeps that information to himself especially the true count of monthly subscriptions.  We guess.

We do have passion.  We do have the BBS to vent and amuse.

Oh ya, I can hear HT lol from here.
Would be super kewl if poly count could just be turned up without an huge upgrade.
The "Pipe Dream" knob.


Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: fd ski on September 03, 2025, 02:21:19 PM
i work in software development. 100k per year will get you very little in terms of coding ability those days. Wages got crazy in last 2 decades. Programmer from 1990s and programmer of 2025 are two very different beasts.
Then comes everything else, art - at far more detailed level then what it was back in the days, complexity, supporting various versions/drivers etc.
What happened in 1990s in flight sims is unlikely to happen again. You would need a kickstarter for million or more to get a semi functioning game with 20% of AH functionalities and up to date graphics, and you'd also alienate 50% of current customer base due to hardware requirements.

Ain't happening folks.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: haggerty on September 03, 2025, 02:56:55 PM
I imagine with AI the ability to create art and games just with simple requests is going to become very easy.  One person that knows how to get the most out of AI could do alot of work towards upgrading the game, or creating a new one altogether.  The requirement to know how to code is beginning to go away, just knowing what you want AI to code will get you very far.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on September 03, 2025, 03:04:32 PM
I imagine with AI the ability to create art and games just with simple requests is going to become very easy.  One person that knows how to get the most out of AI could do alot of work towards upgrading the game, or creating a new one altogether.  The requirement to know how to code is beginning to go away, just knowing what you want AI to code will get you very far.

Dunno know about that. Ypu have to know enough to spot an error and ehy.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on September 03, 2025, 03:06:23 PM
i work in software development. 100k per year will get you very little in terms of coding ability those days. Wages got crazy in last 2 decades. Programmer from 1990s and programmer of 2025 are two very different beasts.
Then comes everything else, art - at far more detailed level then what it was back in the days, complexity, supporting various versions/drivers etc.
What happened in 1990s in flight sims is unlikely to happen again. You would need a kickstarter for million or more to get a semi functioning game with 20% of AH functionalities and up to date graphics, and you'd also alienate 50% of current customer base due to hardware requirements.

Ain't happening folks.

Not to me tion the guys who built this went above and beyond a pay rate as an employee..
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Shuffler on September 03, 2025, 04:29:32 PM
I offered Dale $150 cash. He sat there a bit and poured three shots. He threw one back and took a long look at me. Then he threw another back and looked out across the pasture. He hem hawed a bit then threw back the last shot. Then he slung those glasses off the porch, drew his pistol, and broke each one before they could touch dirt. He slowly holstered his colt revolver as he eyed me across the table.... and that was that. I took that as a "No".
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: scott66 on September 03, 2025, 05:19:44 PM
Don't tell hi-tech this but I would pay double.. the reason isn't the graphics or plane choices or maps.. it's you !..I would generally miss you this game this community this bbs.. it's worth double even with all the bickering it has what no other games I've played has .. the type of fun and other aspects and arenas and a general attachment to some of you old timers <S>
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Dadtallica on September 03, 2025, 06:32:37 PM
I have a GPT set up to tell me how much time and resources it would take to implement something. Tell me what you wanna see and I will ask.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: thndregg on September 03, 2025, 09:55:46 PM
.... and you'd also alienate 50% of current customer base due to hardware requirements.

Ain't happening folks.

Big factor with me as a consumer who loves the low subscription cost I've enjoyed since '04. Having spent most of my working life taking care of family on a lower income scale in rural Oregon, it was always a wary thought on my brain about Aces High's advancements in graphics and other aspects that would require spending money on hardware upgrades, or ultimately a new PC build. Budget, budget, budget...
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: AKKuya on September 03, 2025, 10:27:34 PM
I have a GPT set up to tell me how much time and resources it would take to implement something. Tell me what you wanna see and I will ask.

1) Upgrading VOX to a real time conference call allowing everyone speaking and hearing at the same time
2) Creating code allowing destruction of trees
3) Creating a simple method of programming Staged Missions with click icon parameters 
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on September 03, 2025, 10:35:30 PM
Convert it to Unreal Engine as is,  build new from there?
I assume less than starting from scratch.

Fleeting thoughts by Animl
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Eagler on September 04, 2025, 07:27:29 AM
It's worth it to me ...

I pay for it monthly..a measly 50 cents a day..best money I spend, bang for the buck these days..

The game is not the issues..it's the players..

Last night great example..crazy fight between rooks and bish while knights had a circle jerk with themselves as no one would rise and fight them..

Forced to go bish just to have any kind of interactions..

Smaller maps with uncapturable bases located close enough to allow any country to reach any fight..

Eagler
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: DmonSlyr on September 04, 2025, 10:56:22 AM
Definitely worth buying, but it scares me since another company/person who doesn't understand the game and player base could completely ruin the game.

Only thing that should really change is removal of BowlMA, CraterMA, Buzzsawz, and Oceania. And then allow map makers and skinners to make updates. I'd probbaly increase CV strength and make some revisions to ENY, perk the B26 and TU2s, reduce the 190D to 5 eny and increase the tempest perk cost. Really dont need to make much more adj to gameplay tho. Add a separate free fight server since Match play no longer provides that. I wish there was was a code to add more points to attack the other side if no action there but thats about it.

I wouldn't want a company to get in and completely ruin the concept. I also wouldn't want a company to get in and not do anything, but that may be the better approach.

In anycase, id be happy to take over the game for Hitech to atleast make sure the game doesn't change too much to keep its overall concept.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on September 04, 2025, 10:59:17 AM
109s need high perks :)
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on September 04, 2025, 12:02:03 PM
Definitely worth buying, but it scares me since another company/person who doesn't understand the game and player base could completely ruin the game.

Only thing that should really change is removal of BowlMA, CraterMA, Buzzsawz, and Oceania. And then allow map makers and skinners to make updates. I'd probbaly increase CV strength and make some revisions to ENY, perk the B26 and TU2s, reduce the 190D to 5 eny and increase the tempest perk cost. Really dont need to make much more adj to gameplay tho. Add a separate free fight server since Match play no longer provides that. I wish there was was a code to add more points to attack the other side if no action there but thats about it.

I wouldn't want a company to get in and completely ruin the concept. I also wouldn't want a company to get in and not do anything, but that may be the better approach.

In anycase, id be happy to take over the game for Hitech to atleast make sure the game doesn't change too much to keep its overall concept.

Me bets you'd be making setting changes weekly. :) <runs>
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: DmonSlyr on September 04, 2025, 12:40:22 PM
109s need high perks :)

Nah, the #s don't reflect it. I'd maybe bring down the k4 to an 8 eny and G14 to 18. Just looking at this month, the 190D has almost 1000 more kills than a K4. That means its far more impactful to the MA. The 190D is also a lot less fun to fight against than the K4. So it just makes the engagements more boring chasing them around. The G14 is actually quite slow and turns relatively mediocre, but understanding ACM vert flying makes it seems like it turns well. It cannot outrun a yak9u even, and its only saving grace is having the gondies in the MA to help it bring some planes down faster. Overall the g14 does well when it has friendlies to support but will get ganged easily if not.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: DmonSlyr on September 04, 2025, 12:43:35 PM
Me bets you'd be making setting changes weekly. :) <runs>

Lol, Nah, but im just irritated with B26s and Tu2s downing a CV every time. They are so fast and if high most planes cannot catch them and then its a 1 pass wonder to destroy a great CV fight.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on September 04, 2025, 02:36:15 PM
Lol, Nah, but im just irritated with B26s and Tu2s downing a CV every time. They are so fast and if high most planes cannot catch them and then its a 1 pass wonder to destroy a great CV fight.

And each plane’s characteristics is why each one was built and used for specific operations, to win.

Can’t stand Spits, LAs, Typhs, but except for HOs, they are working as designed.

Yus guts want them all below or equal to 109s.

 A good pilet in 109 will smoke a 190D n TnB. No I’m not going to stop and pose for the shot. I’m Gumby damnit

Its da pilet.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: DmonSlyr on September 04, 2025, 03:54:52 PM
And each plane’s characteristics is why each one was built and used for specific operations, to win.

Can’t stand Spits, LAs, Typhs, but except for HOs, they are working as designed.

Yus guts want them all below or equal to 109s.

 A good pilet in 109 will smoke a 190D n TnB. No I’m not going to stop and pose for he shot. I’m Gumby damnit

Its da pilet.

A 190D can run from most of the MA including a K4 and can out dive and out climb it easy. Theres no reason for a 190D to turn n burn and 98% of them dont. Leading to boring engagements. The 109 will get ganged much quicker and also only has 64 30mm cannons that you have to be extremely presice while the 190D gets to spray 500 cannons and 1k 50 cals. It makes a huge difference. Again, that's why 190Ds are one of the most used planes in the game. A p40, no matter how good the pilot is, isnt going to be able run from most of the MA and will get ganged most of the time if no friendlies are around. Being able to run is a huge benefit that not all planes have and a pilot whose great at defense ACM is no match for 3 190Ds and 2 spits16s on their 6, and even the 50 cals are so weak that even if you get an overshoot shot on them, it doesn't do enough damage to hardly scratch the paint. Doesn't matter how good a pilot is.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on September 04, 2025, 04:16:11 PM
A 190D can run from most of the MA including a K4 and can out dive and out climb it easy. Theres no reason for a 190D to turn n burn and 98% of them dont. Leading to boring engagements. The 109 will get ganged much quicker and also only has 64 30mm cannons that you have to be extremely presice while the 190D gets to spray 500 cannons and 1k 50 cals. It makes a huge difference. Again, that's why 190Ds are one of the most used planes in the game. A p40, no matter how good the pilot is, isnt going to be able run from most of the MA and will get ganged most of the time if no friendlies are around. Being able to run is a huge benefit that not all planes have and a pilot whose great at defense ACM is no match for 3 190Ds and 2 spits16s on their 6, and even the 50 cals are so weak that even if you get an overshoot shot on them, it doesn't do enough damage to hardly scratch the paint. Doesn't matter how good a pilot is.

Well, I think you may need a ride with me. In fact I’m collecting films of it. Several planes are able to catch up to me. I have films of up to 4-6 catching up on my 6 and landing rounds. LAs, Spit16s, 51s, F4Us, and Typhs will do it and fairly regularly. Now if I dive in from alt and doing 450-500, good luck. As far as making 2-4 turns then extending and walking away, not likely. From a 109, ya maybe.


Now if someone just flys it in a straight line, then sure, you’re probably right. Thats not how I roll, but whateva.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Lazerr on September 04, 2025, 06:08:09 PM
Going to take a couple hundred new guys to drain this swamp
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Dadtallica on September 04, 2025, 06:20:17 PM
Well, I think you may beed a ride with me. In fact I’m collecting films of it. Several planes are able to catch up to me. I have films of up to 4-6 catching up in my 6 and landing rounds. LAs, Spit16s, 51s, F4Us, and Typhs will do it and fairly regularly. Now if I dive in from alt snd doing 450-500, good luck. As far as making 2-4 turns then extending and walking away, not likely. From a 109, ya maybe.


Now if someone just flys it in a straight line, then sure, you’re probably right. Thats not how I roll, but whateva.

190D has serious oil leak time. It was either last week or the week before you and I got tangled pretty high up in the air. I meant to post about this in here after, but didn’t get a chance because I’m assuming you were screaming into the microphone the same as I was lol

 It was me and I think one other rook and then either two or three of your side one was a P51D. You were in a 190D and I can’t remember if I was also in one or the Ta152. I think it was the Ta. You probably can check a film. After a couple of merges, I landed a hit that opened a leak to your oil and we sort of broke apart after that. I remember the other countrymen in range asking me if I needed to worry about the 190 and I said no I got its oil. It should be done soon.

As we were both extending, I saw the the 51 trying to duck away on the deck and since you and I had enough distance and the oil had now been leaking for a minute or so, I figured I had plenty of time to dive down and mop up the 51 and move on to the airfield about half a sector away for whatever ever else might be up. But of course, as as my usual, I overshot the 51 putting whatever plane I was in to the edge of compression and as I was climbing up to come back around, I saw you coming back again from a didtance. I only saw you because of the leaking oil.

I was asked again on range if we needed to worry about the 190 and I was like no that thing’s been leaking forever. It shouldn’t be up much longer. I climbed up about 10,000 feet I think and you didn’t stop coming. You caught up to me lickety-split and I think we had one more merge possibly two at that point I just said well forget it. This thing’s gonna run out of juice soon. Let’s see it try and catch me.

Narrater: The 190D did not in fact run out of juice.

So I extended figuring there’s no way you’re gonna be able to keep up with a busted engine but you kept coming and I remember saying on range again when is this Fn thing gonna run out of oil!!!

You slowly were able to get close to me but never closer than 600 yards. You started taking shots at around 800 and up at 600 but you must’ve ran out of pew pews or you wanted to get home because you decided to turn around and head back to the base. It was maybe a quarter of a sector away.

I feel like at this point it had been almost 10 minutes or more since I hit your oil and now I just had to see if you could make it home so I turned around to follow. I can’t remember if I caught up to you or not or you crashed on the landing or something, but you still made it pretty close to that base and I’m guessing that plane still has some oil in it some freakin where!

I may not be remembering the ending exactly as it happened. It was at least a couple weeks ago, but it was fun to say the least and definitely worth a revisit if you filmed it. Too bad you can’t hear what I was saying about your oil!  :old:

 :salute

Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on September 04, 2025, 07:03:46 PM
190D has serious oil leak time. It was either last week or the week before you and I got tangled pretty high up in the air. I meant to post about this in here after, but didn’t get a chance because I’m assuming you were screaming into the microphone the same as I was lol

 It was me and I think one other rook and then either two or three of your side one was a P51D. You were in a 190D and I can’t remember if I was also in one or the Ta152. I think it was the Ta. You probably can check a film. After a couple of merges, I landed a hit that opened a leak to your oil and we sort of broke apart after that. I remember the other countrymen in range asking me if I needed to worry about the 190 and I said no I got its oil. It should be done soon.

As we were both extending, I saw the the 51 trying to duck away on the deck and since you and I had enough distance and the oil had now been leaking for a minute or so, I figured I had plenty of time to dive down and mop up the 51 and move on to the airfield about half a sector away for whatever ever else might be up. But of course, as as my usual, I overshot the 51 putting whatever plane I was in to the edge of compression and as I was climbing up to come back around, I saw you coming back again from a didtance. I only saw you because of the leaking oil.

I was asked again on range if we needed to worry about the 190 and I was like no that thing’s been leaking forever. It shouldn’t be up much longer. I climbed up about 10,000 feet I think and you didn’t stop coming. You caught up to me lickety-split and I think we had one more merge possibly two at that point I just said well forget it. This thing’s gonna run out of juice soon. Let’s see it try and catch me.

Narrater: The 190D did not in fact run out of juice.

So I extended figuring there’s no way you’re gonna be able to keep up with a busted engine but you kept coming and I remember saying on range again when is this Fn thing gonna run out of oil!!!

You slowly were able to get close to me but never closer than 600 yards. You started taking shots at around 800 and up at 600 but you must’ve ran out of pew pews or you wanted to get home because you decided to turn around and head back to the base. It was maybe a quarter of a sector away.

I feel like at this point it had been almost 10 minutes or more since I hit your oil and now I just had to see if you could make it home so I turned around to follow. I can’t remember if I caught up to you or not or you crashed on the landing or something, but you still made it pretty close to that base and I’m guessing that plane still has some oil in it some freakin where!

I may not be remembering the ending exactly as it happened. It was at least a couple weeks ago, but it was fun to say the least and definitely worth a revisit if you filmed it. Too bad you can’t hear what I was saying about your oil!  :old:

 :salute

HA! I remember, I think one fight you were in a D9, we had 2-3 fights the last cpl weeks. I could not get within 800, taking pot shots spurts, keep ya on your toes. The last 3 fights were very close and could have gone either way easily. You flew the D9 as if you weren't comfortable in it, but ya got away,...D9 vs D9, I couldn't go any faster than you. Unless lower fuel load.

2 nights ago, it was hard to get within 800 of you, it was a 190 you were in, not sure the model. again just pot-shot spurts to keep ya puckered and off balance. I've hit at 1000, probably doesn't do much. But I just couldn't get that kill shot until you pulled up. I got that mistake as others wait for mine.

I may not win all fights, but the opponent is going to work for it and have fun doing it. I'm not running anywhere. I've run a lot of ammo out of chasers. Even with 3-6 on my 6, eventually I'll loop back and take out the last in line, prolly HO.

Last 3 fights were fun,... as it should be.

 :salute

EDIT: I don't film as much as I should.

I missed one, getting 7 kills in 10 min, 5 with a wing missing....hysterical freak thing that won't happen again.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: AKKuya on September 05, 2025, 07:32:08 PM
Saturday Powerball is 1.8 billion.  Just saying.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: AKKuya on September 07, 2025, 08:20:54 AM
Saturday Powerball is 1.8 billion.  Just saying.

2 winners splitting the jackpot with one being sold in Missouri.  The state that I bought my ticket.  Could Aces High be mine? 
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Shuffler on September 08, 2025, 12:48:44 PM
2 winners splitting the jackpot with one being sold in Missouri.  The state that I bought my ticket.  Could Aces High be mine?

The other was sold in Fredricksburg Texas. I ran over to New Braunfels Saturday to pick up a desk, chair, and printer stand at an antique store. Not antique but all solid wood and looks nice.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: AKKuya on September 08, 2025, 04:55:46 PM
I didn't win.  Sorry guys.   Dale will have to keep running the game.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: eddiek on September 09, 2025, 08:35:30 AM


The real question is, is there anyone Hitech would want to sell the game to, someone who he could entrust the legacy of the game he and his crew created and built and nurtured?

Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on September 09, 2025, 09:28:34 AM

The real question is, is there anyone Hitech would want to sell the game to, someone who he could entrust the legacy of the game he and his crew created and built and nurtured?


questions only HT can answer
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: AKKuya on September 09, 2025, 01:05:05 PM

questions only HT can answer

I'm sure George Washington could with 2 million answers. 
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: AKKuya on September 13, 2025, 06:54:32 PM
I believe that to buy this game and bring life back.  This will require an insane person to think outside of the box.

I have implemented the new company name to the Section Eight Society and uploaded a number 8 pic with a crazy personification for a mascot. 

Who's crazy enough to buy the game?

 
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: LCADolby on September 14, 2025, 03:58:11 PM
I believe that to buy this game and bring life back.  This will require an insane person to think outside of the box.

I have implemented the new company name to the Section Eight Society and uploaded a number 8 pic with a crazy personification for a mascot. 

Who's crazy enough to buy the game?


I think that Chief Daisuke Aramaki and Major Motoko Kusanagi might have something to say about the use or the name section 8... It's supposed to be a secret.. :old:
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Flyboy56 on September 15, 2025, 10:24:06 AM
Does Aces High possess the capability of improving with a whole new updated version?  Would that appeal to present day gamers?  Can a WW2 based combat flight simulator compete against missiles and jet aircraft?

Hypothetical:

Would an existing player who had the money be able to buy the game, hire a team of programmers, and market Aces High 4?

or,

Will Dale sell the game to a gaming company?


This is the real question pertaining to all the comments and suggestions for the game.


If I had the money, then I would buy the game and hire programmers plus start marketing the new version.  That's me.  I once started a topic on the players buying the game over a decade ago for a million dollars.  Dale responded X 5 for the amount.  What would be the asking price now?

He should sell before it fails completely like its on tract to do already. They need a team with moderators to fix this game. I came back after leaving in 2013, and now this game is riddled with indestructible bases, objects on base, aimbots, dar cheats finding people anywhere on maps, and more. I'm leaving again and for good because there is no moderation, or patch fixes. Many of us can just hear Drumming when 88s explode rounds echoes and discos, people looking like they're spawned somewhere they shouldnt be but aren't there, the list goes on. I was hoping after a 12 year break it would've been absolutely awesome, Aces High 2 was better. AH3 is horrible!
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Flyboy56 on September 15, 2025, 10:29:33 AM
I believe that to buy this game and bring life back.  This will require an insane person to think outside of the box.

I have implemented the new company name to the Section Eight Society and uploaded a number 8 pic with a crazy personification for a mascot. 

Who's crazy enough to buy the game?

Moderators for the horrendous cheating happening
Removing glitches people exploit like recording, exiting game to find someone, and coming back.(Put a timer after opening AHFILM or some sort of fail safe)
Balance the game when numbers are off by changing object hardness or adding steps to cap bases
When teams have 0 players restrict base caps by the other two teams, so they entire team cant be swiped with 0 players on.
Require CV groups to be resupplied for ammo for big guns
GVs that can run out of fuel just like ammo and require resup if they do
Fix sound issues - explosions cause discos for multiple players with 88's and CV guns. sounds like drumming echoing everywhere

I know its never going to be purchased or changed so I am done with this game, but it won't be around much longer if Hitech doesn't figure something out.

Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Eagler on September 15, 2025, 10:37:13 AM
I have never seen any of those issues but I play the game as originally designed..flying fighters

Eagler
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Spikes on September 15, 2025, 10:37:25 AM
He should sell before it fails completely like its on tract to do already. They need a team with moderators to fix this game. I came back after leaving in 2013, and now this game is riddled with indestructible bases, objects on base, aimbots, dar cheats finding people anywhere on maps, and more. I'm leaving again and for good because there is no moderation, or patch fixes. Many of us can just hear Drumming when 88s explode rounds echoes and discos, people looking like they're spawned somewhere they shouldnt be but aren't there, the list goes on. I was hoping after a 12 year break it would've been absolutely awesome, Aces High 2 was better. AH3 is horrible!
I've never experienced any of this. I'd look at your PC for possible issues.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Shuffler on September 15, 2025, 10:37:32 AM
Odd, what type connection do you have?
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Flyboy56 on September 15, 2025, 10:51:38 AM
I've never experienced any of this. I'd look at your PC for possible issues.

Its not just me that has these issues, and I have done that.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Flyboy56 on September 15, 2025, 10:52:55 AM
Odd, what type connection do you have?

FiberOptics hardwired getting 1GB Download/445.2 Upload.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Flyboy56 on September 15, 2025, 10:56:28 AM

questions only HT can answer

I'm not sure how much it costs to keep the servers on and whatever else is required to keep AH3 going but if I was making 15$ per person and it costs me 5$ per person to keep it running why bother selling? $4,000 roughly per month if there is still 400 players paying is great supplement income.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: haggerty on September 15, 2025, 11:22:47 AM
Moderators for the horrendous cheating happening
Removing glitches people exploit like recording, exiting game to find someone, and coming back.(Put a timer after opening AHFILM or some sort of fail safe)
Balance the game when numbers are off by changing object hardness or adding steps to cap bases
When teams have 0 players restrict base caps by the other two teams, so they entire team cant be swiped with 0 players on.
Require CV groups to be resupplied for ammo for big guns
GVs that can run out of fuel just like ammo and require resup if they do
Fix sound issues - explosions cause discos for multiple players with 88's and CV guns. sounds like drumming echoing everywhere

I know its never going to be purchased or changed so I am done with this game, but it won't be around much longer if Hitech doesn't figure something out.

What horrendous cheating is happening?  I play daily at the top level and I only know of a couple people that use terrain glitching to see enemy vehicles, but thats not going to be fixed without a game redesign.  People think some of the bomber pilots are cheating with their guns, but its just way too easy to gun in bombers that a little bit of skill goes a long way.
 
Recording vehicles is also not a huge problem, it takes alot of time to leave the game, watch the film, see where they are, then come back to the game and head to that spot...if you are stationary that long you are just trolling and should be cleared out anyway. 

Requiring ships and vehicles to be resupped with ammo and fuel isnt going to fix anything because there isnt a problem there to begin with. 

The CV puffy issue is rare, but yes it does happen.  I've never had a disco from 88's though, maybe check your audio drivers or get a soundcard if its not liking the additional noises introduced.  I often get some game noises blocked out to make room for the flak factory 88's.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Spikes on September 15, 2025, 11:24:18 AM
Its not just me that has these issues, and I have done that.
I mean, there's a few hundred people who play this I presume, and this is the first time I've ever heard of half of these issues in the almost 20 years I've played this game. I think there have been like 5? total people in that span who have cheated/hacked the game and all were dealt with. Usually most cheating claims end up just being one party being worse than the other.

What you're insinuating is that someone has hacked the game in order to bring back up manned guns on a CV? And "of course" the film viewer crashes. Where is the proof of indestructible bases and are there other witnesses?

I do know there have been some bugs with new maps that seem to be fixed in fairly short order.

I think you're just a bit disgruntled that not much has changed since you've been gone, and want to pitch a fit for some empathy, or something.

If you want to leave, leave. There is no need to announce your departure.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: fudgums on September 15, 2025, 11:38:26 AM
Moderators for the horrendous cheating happening
Removing glitches people exploit like recording, exiting game to find someone, and coming back.(Put a timer after opening AHFILM or some sort of fail safe)
Balance the game when numbers are off by changing object hardness or adding steps to cap bases
When teams have 0 players restrict base caps by the other two teams, so they entire team cant be swiped with 0 players on.
Require CV groups to be resupplied for ammo for big guns
GVs that can run out of fuel just like ammo and require resup if they do
Fix sound issues - explosions cause discos for multiple players with 88's and CV guns. sounds like drumming echoing everywhere

I know its never going to be purchased or changed so I am done with this game, but it won't be around much longer if Hitech doesn't figure something out.

Your pc sucks bruh
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Flyboy56 on September 15, 2025, 11:44:52 AM
Your pc sucks bruh

Brand new and works just fine with other games that have much better graphics and more in game play than this dying game..so carry on "bruh.."
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on September 15, 2025, 12:04:03 PM
I'm not sure how much it costs to keep the servers on and whatever else is required to keep AH3 going but if I was making 15$ per person and it costs me 5$ per person to keep it running why bother selling? $4,000 roughly per month if there is still 400 players paying is great supplement income.

Well, because the human brain uses imagination to fill in the blanks, usually off-base. Then HT steps in with one sentence and blows it out of the water with reality. Why I shy away from things only he knows.

You’re right, why sell. HT s in retirement and has a health issue, this is not supplement, this is his income, and his life long baby.

As dar as mass cheating, total no sense. There is probably less actual cheating than most games. If any.

Many yrs ago HT had stepped into hacking. He knows how backdoors work first hand. He has experience, many programmers do not. He knows how to plug holes. Now top that with the 3D engine is proprietary, which has several advantages, you can control more hacking, among other things. Now top that again with HT is a VB c++ master in programming, hus wirk n codng is stunning with shorter faster loading.

With that knowledge, and my own experience in coding, I can assure you and everyone else, you have one of the most secure solid games out there.

Clams are caused by illusion. As Spikes states, wisely, they are almost all easily discounted. Just be calm and wait to see it done.

Its these type if accusations that make it APPEAR there is cheating. Like a newspaper, sensational story on front page, corrections on last page.

Relax, take a breath, enjoy what you have with all its outdated graphics. Because when this is gone there will never be another one with this game play, good or bad. Fly a scenario, enjoy it to the max.

Better yet, if you love it, like many do, promote it. Numbers breed numbers, the higher the number the better the game play, the longer its life and tweaking.

Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Shuffler on September 15, 2025, 12:09:36 PM
If you are having these problems, I'd say it is something with your machine. New means nothing if it has issues or is not up to the task. This game does not take much to run.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on September 15, 2025, 12:16:01 PM
If you are having these problems, I'd say it is something with your machine. New means nothing if it has issues or is not up to the task. This game does not take much to run.

Exactly

Ever read bug reports on games constantly updating?
I saw on sim reaching 600k in its 20 yrs. Very low bugs in comparison in AH.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Flyboy56 on September 15, 2025, 01:16:53 PM
If you are having these problems, I'd say it is something with your machine. New means nothing if it has issues or is not up to the task. This game does not take much to run.

It is not just myself having these issues. I ask while in game if people experience what I am in that current moment followed by people experiencing it as well. Also, I play games like Hell Let Loose with no issues ever so I am not sure its my computer but I'm not a programmer. I guess my eyes deceive me and my ears when I hear and see this issues..
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on September 15, 2025, 01:33:36 PM
It is not just myself having these issues. I ask while in game if people experience what I am in that current moment followed by people experiencing it as well. Also, I play games like Hell Let Loose with no issues ever so I am not sure its my computer but I'm not a programmer. I guess my eyes deceive me and my ears when I hear and see this issues..

Best I can suggest is film it. If t can b proven s bug I have confidence HT will fix it.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Flyboy56 on September 15, 2025, 01:46:56 PM
Best I can suggest is film it. If t can b proven s bug I have confidence HT will fix it.

My films during those times won't load and crash the AHFilm Viewer.  I don't know why or what would cause this. I recorded the CV battle issue watching guns pop after being dropped. Left game to go view it and saw that but I dont want to fill this section with those I have it in the tech support. Don't want to change the subject too much but I think it would be worth someone with a team buying. I appreciate feedback on viable options and what it may be but its not just me experiencing these things.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on September 15, 2025, 02:44:34 PM
My films during those times won't load and crash the AHFilm Viewer.  I don't know why or what would cause this. I recorded the CV battle issue watching guns pop after being dropped. Left game to go view it and saw that but I dont want to fill this section with those I have it in the tech support. Don't want to change the subject too much but I think it would be worth someone with a team buying. I appreciate feedback on viable options and what it may be but its not just me experiencing these things.

As I mentioned prior, if you are in a gun it will crash the fv. Unfortunately. Try from another pov.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Dadtallica on September 15, 2025, 03:20:34 PM
My films during those times won't load and crash the AHFilm Viewer.  I don't know why or what would cause this. I recorded the CV battle issue watching guns pop after being dropped. Left game to go view it and saw that but I dont want to fill this section with those I have it in the tech support. Don't want to change the subject too much but I think it would be worth someone with a team buying. I appreciate feedback on viable options and what it may be but its not just me experiencing these things.

Then post the Raw AH film files here as they appear in your file directory and if other people here can’t use them they can perhaps look at the file and see why.

In fact, you don’t have to do anything new or special but if you want something that is certain to be fresh just go take a quick video. Don’t open it or anything. Transfer the file here to the bulletin board and let someone here be the first to open it.

Instant ship gun respawn is something I’ve never heard of and all my years here. You don’t even get any points for those things anyway.

The only cheat I ever actually witnessed with my own eyes, in all that time was the unlimited ordinance Lancaster. That was wild lol and like decades ago.

Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Mayhem on September 15, 2025, 07:53:22 PM
I Personally hope when HTC finally throws in the towel, Hitech will package the client and single server software to be sold as is with no support on steam for $60+ this would allow him to discontinue the subscription service bring down the server(s) and still make money on the game with little or no effort.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: hazmatt on September 16, 2025, 12:27:10 AM
Hitech will package the client and single server software to be sold as is with no support on steam for $60+ this would allow him to discontinue the subscription service bring down the server(s) and still make money on the game with little or no effort.

That's an interesting idea.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: AKKuya on September 16, 2025, 06:18:52 AM
I Personally hope when HTC finally throws in the towel, Hitech will package the client and single server software to be sold as is with no support on steam for $60+ this would allow him to discontinue the subscription service bring down the server(s) and still make money on the game with little or no effort.

You're implying that people will pay money for a desktop game with no online interaction and be profitable?
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Shuffler on September 16, 2025, 09:45:31 AM
It is not just myself having these issues. I ask while in game if people experience what I am in that current moment followed by people experiencing it as well. Also, I play games like Hell Let Loose with no issues ever so I am not sure its my computer but I'm not a programmer. I guess my eyes deceive me and my ears when I hear and see this issues..

Different games have different engines. This means they will have different requirements.  Even a great machine with good settings for one game may not play another that well if it is not adjusted. I am not saying you are not having issues. When one has issues it can make gaming miserable. I am just saying to check some settings.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Flyboy56 on September 16, 2025, 11:27:12 AM
Different games have different engines. This means they will have different requirements.  Even a great machine with good settings for one game may not play another that well if it is not adjusted. I am not saying you are not having issues. When one has issues it can make gaming miserable. I am just saying to check some settings.

What settings would you suggest? Hell Let Loose graphics and sounds are 100x more detailed it seems with no issues, so what settings are you referring to? I adjust graphic details depending on if I’m in a GV or Buffs(you will almost never see me in fighters because I suck lol) and sound settings when I’m on CVs or getting hit by 88s.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Shuffler on September 16, 2025, 12:04:56 PM
What settings would you suggest? Hell Let Loose graphics and sounds are 100x more detailed it seems with no issues, so what settings are you referring to? I adjust graphic details depending on if I’m in a GV or Buffs(you will almost never see me in fighters because I suck lol) and sound settings when I’m on CVs or getting hit by 88s.

I would suggest going over to "Hardware & Software" and posting your issues along with your machines hardware and settings for the game.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Flyboy56 on September 16, 2025, 12:54:55 PM
I would suggest going over to "Hardware & Software" and posting your issues along with your machines hardware and settings for the game.

I did that either in the tech support or that section with nothing that seemed off from who reviewed the data.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Shuffler on September 16, 2025, 04:15:16 PM
I did that either in the tech support or that section with nothing that seemed off from who reviewed the data.

Obviously something is off if you are having issues. It has to be in machine settings, game settings, or connection. Most do not have those issues. It could be a bad hop in the connection, who knows. Sometimes finding the issue can make you pull your hair out. It is there.... just have to find it. If it was the game, everyone would have the same issue. I seriously hope you can find it as having issues simply sucks.

Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: LCADolby on September 16, 2025, 07:30:28 PM
The dude's attitude is as glitched as he claims his install has been. :old:
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on September 16, 2025, 11:05:27 PM
I did that either in the tech support or that section with nothing that seemed off from who reviewed the data.

Here's some online tools I use on my page to test connection.
Test
https://speed.cloudflare.com/

https://www.speedguide.net/analyzer.php

What the internet is doing.
https://radar.cloudflare.com/
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Flyboy56 on September 17, 2025, 05:22:02 AM
The dude's attitude is as glitched as he claims his install has been. :old:

Okay girl
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Flyboy56 on September 17, 2025, 05:22:55 AM
Here's some online tools I use on my page to test connection.
Test
https://speed.cloudflare.com/

https://www.speedguide.net/analyzer.php

What the internet is doing.
https://radar.cloudflare.com/

Thank you ! I’ll try these out thanks for actually helping unlike LCA.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Shuffler on September 17, 2025, 10:11:25 AM
There are programs like 3D Traceroute that will check the latency of each hop to a target server.... such as AHIII. You can see if there is an issue along the path that may be causing problems for you.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on September 17, 2025, 10:39:17 AM
Thank you ! I’ll try these out thanks for actually helping unlike LCA.

YW
i was going through the normal process of elimination.
Right now its connection. There can be issues with packets dropping, ping and latency. On Cloudflare bottom right of test page.

I was coming to this next, I suggest you follow Suffler’s suggestion to run tracert (trace route) on the actual Htc and the MA IP. I don’t have that IP handy, but someone can post it.

Post your findings.

We can streamline your connection to a point if we see high numbers.

What Windows version are you running?
Do you use VPN and/or Firewall during game?
Is Xbox bar enabled
Is Game Mode enabled?

We don’t know if its your connection, even if it sounds likely. Ping and packet loss is my first assumption. Lets confirm or omit assumptions.

You can give back to Tech Support page with those answers.

Ignore the negative. Identity issues are not your concern.

Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: save on September 17, 2025, 11:24:22 AM
like Animl wrote :
Do a traceroute to destination and post it here.

If you are currently running using Wifi, try to test with cable connection instead, its not uncommon to lose packets, or have high ping times with Wifi.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Flyboy56 on September 17, 2025, 11:24:50 AM
YW
i was going through the normal process of elimination.
Right now its connection. There can be issues with packets dropping, ping and latency. On Cloudflare bottom right of test page.

I was coming to this next, I suggest you follow Suffler’s suggestion to run tracert (trace route) on the actual Htc and the MA IP. I don’t have that IP handy, but someone can post it.

Post your findings.

We can streamline your connection to a point if we see high numbers.

What Windows version are you running?
Do you use VPN and/or Firewall during game?
Is Xbox bar enabled
Is Game Mode enabled?

We don’t know if its your connection, even if it sounds likely. Ping and packet loss is my first assumption. Lets confirm or omit assumptions.

You can give back to Tech Support page with those answers.

Ignore the negative. Identity issues are not your concern.

Okay, I downloaded that 3D Software, but I'll need that I.P. I also checked my graphics card settings only adjustment I could make was 120 FPS vs 60 FPS, I was just in game but didn't have many in game so I left for the day so I didn't test too much out.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Flyboy56 on September 17, 2025, 11:25:25 AM
like Animl wrote :
Do a traceroute to destination and post it here.

If you are currently running using Wifi, try to test with cable connection instead, its not uncommon to lose packets, or have high ping times with Wifi.

Its hardwired fiber optics so good on that end I just need the IP to trace but I cant find it
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Max on September 17, 2025, 11:55:08 AM
Its hardwired fiber optics so good on that end I just need the IP to trace but I cant find it

71.252.137.153

as per https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,68316.0.html
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on September 17, 2025, 12:18:55 PM
71.252.137.153

as per https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,68316.0.html

Thank you

We moved to tech support
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: haggerty on September 17, 2025, 02:40:56 PM
Its hardwired fiber optics so good on that end I just need the IP to trace but I cant find it

Your connection type doesn't matter, you can have 2 gig speeds and still have bad paths with high packet loss.  Hitech has been plaqued with bad paths in my experience of traveling the world, connections to everywhere are amazing, but if you try to access Hitech you get massive packet losses or just outright showing down.  I've gotten around these usually temporary problems by using a VPN to change my path.  While the added path might add a couple milliseconds to each packet, the fact that they get there is hugely more important. 
I could be downloading maps/skins at a couple KB/sec, then jump on a VPN and suddenly its MB/sec. 
This came can be played solid on a dial up modem, its 100% about the quality of the connection, not the speeds.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: LCADolby on September 17, 2025, 09:53:56 PM
Thank you ! I’ll try these out thanks for actually helping unlike LCA.

Cry about it :/

I'm helping you in other ways.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on September 18, 2025, 12:42:54 AM
Cry about it :/

I'm helping you in other ways.

Grow up
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Mayhem on September 18, 2025, 01:19:51 AM
I Personally hope when HTC finally throws in the towel, Hitech will package the client and single server software to be sold as is with no support on steam for $60+ this would allow him to discontinue the subscription service bring down the server(s) and still make money on the game with little or no effort.
You're implying that people will pay money for a desktop game with no online interaction and be profitable?

No I'm implying that If HTC wants to make money on the game after "Retirement" They can package the game with Client side 16 or 32 player H2H and with the software for a single instance stand alone server software that would let you run your own server limited by your own hardware independent from the client.

Basically for the price of a new AAA game you get the game client with H2H and the option to join a stand alone server as well as an installer for a separate single stand alone server instance. But if you want a 500 man arena you better have the hardware to support it.

I'm also suggesting the game could be sold on Steam as is with no support. Any sale that makes it past the return time would be pure profit.

For the community this would be a much better option than selling the IP to a 3rd party like EA.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Flyboy56 on September 18, 2025, 06:55:02 AM
Cry about it :/

I'm helping you in other ways.

Goodbye girl. Blocked so these other members can actually help me like they all have been. I appreciate them, but could give little care about you or what happens to you. Goodbye and thanks to the others!
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on September 18, 2025, 09:40:06 AM
No I'm implying that If HTC wants to make money on the game after "Retirement" They can package the game with Client side 16 or 32 player H2H and with the software for a single instance stand alone server software that would let you run your own server limited by your own hardware independent from the client.

Basically for the price of a new AAA game you get the game client with H2H and the option to join a stand alone server as well as an installer for a separate single stand alone server instance. But if you want a 500 man arena you better have the hardware to support it.

I'm also suggesting the game could be sold on Steam as is with no support. Any sale that makes it past the return time would be pure profit.

For the community this would be a much better option than selling the IP to a 3rd party like EA.

I don’t think 32 in an arena will go over with current player base. I think Steam actually had negative effects as those in Steam slaughtered it on their forums. It got a huge spike, but it then went backwards.

I doubt it will ever be owned by anyone else.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: LCADolby on September 18, 2025, 09:41:32 AM
Goodbye girl. Blocked so these other members can actually help me like they all have been. I appreciate them, but could give little care about you or what happens to you. Goodbye and thanks to the others!
Look at that YouTube gave me what you look like and all your videos! Perfect

I'm a very good judge of character, and never on the wrong side of good people..

I said I was helping you in otherways ie. so you could read what I posted and fixed your glitched attitude.

The others here that help you are better people than I am, but they probably have yet to read through all of your posts and see you for who you are.

I'm pleased you went stalking my accounts away from this BBS like a certain Skyyr did, revealing a disturbed personality type to everyone. Even a thinly veiled threat towards me in my PMs..

no thanks sweetheartbag but I like to meet keyboard warriors if you want to meet  :ahand I'll show you how old my 32 year old bellybutton is. learn to shut the diddly up before you meet the wrong person in real life. Come to New Hampshire and we can show you who the wrong person is. I wish nothing but the worst for you future pieces of compost.

Maybe now my fellow AHers will act with caution, realising you deserve every error you have.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: haggerty on September 18, 2025, 09:43:18 AM
The whole steam release was botched badly by HiTech.  It was being touted as free to play on Steam and avoided the mention of monthly subscription until players had already launched the game.  That led to massive negative reviews that could have been partly avoided by being upfront about it.  Also at the time the game interface was hard to use for VR people that it was also being highly advertised to.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Flyboy56 on September 18, 2025, 10:05:53 AM
I'm a very good judge of character, and never on the wrong side of good people..

I said I was helping you in otherways ie. so you could read what I posted and fixed your glitched attitude.

The others here that help you are better people than I am, but they probably have yet to read through all of your posts and see you for who you are.

I'm pleased you went stalking my accounts away from this BBS like a certain Skyyr did, revealing a disturbed personality type to everyone. Even a thinly veiled threat towards me in my PMs..

Maybe now my fellow AHers will act with caution, realising you deserve every error you have.

lol okay girl. I got my answer :D
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: LCADolby on September 18, 2025, 10:15:11 AM
lol okay girl. I got my answer :D

And I got your true colours  :banana:
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on September 18, 2025, 10:29:40 AM
And I got your true colours  :banana:

Take your brain dead drama elsewhere. You have zero room to talk, someone who makes 50 page drama fest of kid drama and childish attacks. I’m sure Barbie has an online game you fit right into.

Would you like us to “call you out”?

Until he dies something out of line, like you, he’s ok here.

Go ahead, light me up. Right niw you are hijacking a thread with undue drama, thats Dolby
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Flyboy56 on September 18, 2025, 10:30:01 AM
The whole steam release was botched badly by HiTech.  It was being touted as free to play on Steam and avoided the mention of monthly subscription until players had already launched the game.  That led to massive negative reviews that could have been partly avoided by being upfront about it.  Also at the time the game interface was hard to use for VR people that it was also being highly advertised to.

I noticed that on the steam reviews as well and I think it still says "free" misleading people. I haven't tried to download it off that but Im assuming its the same files regardless and wouldn't help with any certain issues that come up.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Flyboy56 on September 18, 2025, 10:32:28 AM
Take your brain dead drama elsewhere. You have zero room to talk, someone who makes 50 page drama fest of kid drama and childish attacks. I’m sure Barbie has an online game you fit right into.

Would you like us to “call you out”?

Until he dies something out of line, like you, he’s ok here.

Go ahead, light me up

How does someone block someone on the forums? I checked but I'm probably just missing how. I'd rather focus on the subject here and "squelch" this man childs posts.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on September 18, 2025, 10:36:58 AM
How does someone block someone on the forums? I checked but I'm probably just missing how. I'd rather focus on the subject here and "squelch" this man childs posts.

You can only place them on ignore. Go to your profile, you’ll see the ignore list option, just enter the name
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Flyboy56 on September 18, 2025, 10:41:37 AM
You can only place them on ignore. Go to your profile, you’ll see the ignore list option, just enter the name

Roger that, done! Thank you
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: The Fugitive on September 18, 2025, 10:41:49 AM
I noticed that on the steam reviews as well and I think it still says "free" misleading people. I haven't tried to download it off that but Im assuming its the same files regardless and wouldn't help with any certain issues that come up.

If you switched to steam you would have to create a new account as the accounts are not transferable.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: LCADolby on September 18, 2025, 10:59:23 AM


#Idiotic (probably drunken) rambling bile#




Animl, I've got about 300 posts of drama spare to catch up with you.

Pot, this is Kettle, colour check send.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: Animl-AW on September 18, 2025, 01:37:42 PM
Animl, I've got about 300 posts of drama spare to catch up with you.

Pot, this is Kettle, colour check send.

Bring it little boy. I think I’ll sign up at IL-2 forums

i will take you beyond bbs.
Title: Re: Is Aces High Worth Buying?
Post by: AKKuya on September 21, 2025, 10:06:02 PM
I've watched some YouTube videos and ads of War Thunder and World of Warships.  Is the level of graphics needed for an updated version of Aces High?  Or, is there a higher level of graphics?