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Title: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: Wiley on October 21, 2026, 01:12:13 PM
With the radar updating more slowly, I noticed that the mouse-over friendlies to show type was not working consistently.  Upon further investigation, I moved the mouse to where the friendly was now, not where it was showing on the clipboard, and it showed their name and type.  The mouse-over is actually using their current position, not what's showing on clipboard dar.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: Dadtallica on October 21, 2026, 02:30:19 PM
 Noticed this too.
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: Animl-AW on October 21, 2026, 05:55:42 PM
Simple actually

Where you are hovering that plane is no longer there, you're no longer over it. You're over where it was. It's only there for seconds.

Good example of why change of settings can cause other issues.
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: Dadtallica on October 21, 2026, 05:58:19 PM
Simple actually

Where you are hovering that plane is no longer there, you're no longer over it. You're over where it was. It's only there for seconds.

Good example of why change of settings can cause other issues.

Ahh duh good explanation.  :aok
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: Shane on October 21, 2026, 07:38:15 PM
It's been adjusted downwards to 20 secs.
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: hitech on October 22, 2026, 09:04:32 AM
Simple actually

Where you are hovering that plane is no longer there, you're no longer over it. You're over where it was. It's only there for seconds.

Good example of why change of settings can cause other issues.

Issue was always there, just more pronounced now.
Fixed for next patch.

HiTech
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: Animl-AW on October 22, 2026, 04:44:38 PM
Issue was always there, just more pronounced now.
Fixed for next patch.

HiTech

Kewl
Wasn’t a big issue for me. I’m not sure the dust has settled in timing.
Small beans to me
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: 1ijac on October 25, 2026, 01:02:01 AM
I didn't really see anything wrong with the radar in the first place.  Why the change?

One-eye
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: 1ijac on October 25, 2026, 11:27:38 PM
Just seems like a laggy server.

One-eye
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: Dadtallica on October 25, 2026, 11:53:32 PM
I didn't really see anything wrong with the radar in the first place.  Why the change?

One-eye

It was because they select few individuals are super boring.
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: The Fugitive on October 26, 2026, 07:33:37 AM
I didn't really see anything wrong with the radar in the first place.  Why the change?

One-eye

Before the change you knew were everyone was instantly. with the delay it added back a bit of the mystery and you have to pay attention to your surroundings a bit more, less time with the clipboard open in front of you.
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: Dadtallica on October 26, 2026, 08:41:18 AM
Before the change you knew were everyone was instantly. with the delay it added back a bit of the mystery and you have to pay attention to your surroundings a bit more, less time with the clipboard open in front of you.

What about all of us who don’t want that? I play for an hour a night. Where is this rule you can’t have the clipboard open?

It was fine the way it was.
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: The Fugitive on October 26, 2026, 09:20:15 AM
What about all of us who don’t want that? I play for an hour a night. Where is this rule you can’t have the clipboard open?

It was fine the way it was.

Getting ganged gets old fast, people log. With this singles and winged pairs have a bit more of a chance to have a fight BEFORE the gang shows up. I think it will help players hang in there longer and so help numbers. It may make it a bit tougher for guys like you to find action quick, but in the long run I think it will help those who want to hang around a couple hours or more.
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: Dadtallica on October 26, 2026, 10:03:49 AM
Getting ganged gets old fast, people log. With this singles and winged pairs have a bit more of a chance to have a fight BEFORE the gang shows up. I think it will help players hang in there longer and so help numbers. It may make it a bit tougher for guys like you to find action quick, but in the long run I think it will help those who want to hang around a couple hours or more.

What are guys like me? I’ve never complained about being able to find action.

I was ganged up on a bunch of times last night. The radar didn’t do anything about it.

Nothing needed to change. It’s a video game not 1945.
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: hazmatt on October 26, 2026, 02:06:45 PM
I was ganged up on a bunch of times last night. The radar didn’t do anything about it.

Nothing needed to change. It’s a video game not 1945.

Sounds like you might have been flying for the Luftwaffe in 1945. I read somewhere that they got ganged up on a bunch in 1945. :old:
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: 1Cane on October 28, 2026, 09:11:10 AM
Lost a base was heading friendly field dar was clear, then tracers flying by and Joker on my six.
Today chasing buffs dar shows behind me and I can see them front and high.

                                                             :airplane: :joystick:
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: Eagler on October 28, 2026, 09:29:27 AM
Lost a base was heading friendly field dar was clear, then tracers flying by and Joker on my six.
Today chasing buffs dar shows behind me and I can see them front and high.

                                                             :airplane: :joystick:

Working as expected...

It's to get your head out of the cockpit and actually look around for yourself..

I was happy when it was 1st changed to 45 seconds but I can see that as too much for many clipboard queens..

Eagler
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: Gooss on October 28, 2026, 11:32:15 AM
I'm a proud clipboard queen! 

I got ganged before we had better dar.  I like being able to see it coming sooner. 

I don't want immersion and always looking around with VR strapped to my face. I got a screen, twisty stick, wife ack, beer, chips, and maybe a sandwich to contend with already.  It's a game.

I can choose if I want to get ganged because it's on dar.  Yes, they can see me, and I can see them, too.

Getting picked is a win.  If the other guy asks for help or doesn't call off the third guy, he was beat.  If it's 1v2, then I can admire well executed wingman tactics, or kill them both. 

Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: LilMak on October 28, 2026, 12:50:50 PM
I'm a proud clipboard queen! 

I got ganged before we had better dar.  I like being able to see it coming sooner. 

I don't want immersion and always looking around with VR strapped to my face. I got a screen, twisty stick, wife ack, beer, chips, and maybe a sandwich to contend with already.  It's a game.

I can choose if I want to get ganged because it's on dar.  Yes, they can see me, and I can see them, too.

Getting picked is a win.  If the other guy asks for help or doesn't call off the third guy, he was beat.  If it's 1v2, then I can admire well executed wingman tactics, or kill them both.
Gangs are not going to stop with the delay. But the degree and speed to which you get ganged will definitely slow. Which is the whole point. Nothing but respect Gooss but the fact of the matter is, even with the delay, your statement about who sees who is objectively false. If it’s 6v1 (outside a radar ring), all six see you but you might only see the one or two within icon range. All the delay does it add some questions about the exact location of the players involved.

Wife ack is all powerful and I would deny no man his beer and chips. But maybe consider finishing the sandwich before launching your sortie? That’ll literally get one thing off your plate.  :grin:
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: Dadtallica on October 28, 2026, 01:10:18 PM
So now we are gate keeping clipboards?
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: Dadtallica on October 28, 2026, 01:11:30 PM
I'm a proud clipboard queen! 

I got ganged before we had better dar.  I like being able to see it coming sooner. 

I don't want immersion and always looking around with VR strapped to my face. I got a screen, twisty stick, wife ack, beer, chips, and maybe a sandwich to contend with already.  It's a game.

I can choose if I want to get ganged because it's on dar.  Yes, they can see me, and I can see them, too.

Getting picked is a win.  If the other guy asks for help or doesn't call off the third guy, he was beat.  If it's 1v2, then I can admire well executed wingman tactics, or kill them both.

Yup… same here!
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: 1Cane on October 30, 2026, 06:14:51 AM
This is the worst change that Ah has done!  At 360 mph 20 second delay is 2 miles.
 Recently my side had lost a base ,I was in Tempy wepped out om the deck trying for RTB. Checked dar was clear Joker dropped in with P47 ,didn't know he was there until his tracers hit me.He did show on dar as i went down.
WE  have allowed vocal minority to change game. I was happy with old setting so i didn't complain.
  Another example of vocal minority :x :x
  Took away F3 in Il2 and we ended up losing GHI,a great player and he made game fun.
  Took away feet dry spawn to accommodate the horde,it made the game fun defend.

    I think this is the worst change AH has made
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: JimmyD3 on October 30, 2026, 08:04:48 AM
This is the worst change that Ah has done!  At 360 mph 20 second delay is 2 miles.
 Recently my side had lost a base ,I was in Tempy wepped out om the deck trying for RTB. Checked dar was clear Joker dropped in with P47 ,didn't know he was there until his tracers hit me.He did show on dar as i went down.
WE  have allowed vocal minority to change game. I was happy with old setting so i didn't complain.
  Another example of vocal minority :x :x
  Took away F3 in Il2 and we ended up losing GHI,a great player and he made game fun.
  Took away feet dry spawn to accommodate the horde,it made the game fun defend.

    I think this is the worst change AH has made

That came about as coding error, it was never supposed to happen. It did NOT happen in AH2.
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: Eagler on October 30, 2026, 08:13:53 AM
This is the worst change that Ah has done!  At 360 mph 20 second delay is 2 miles.
 Recently my side had lost a base ,I was in Tempy wepped out om the deck trying for RTB. Checked dar was clear Joker dropped in with P47 ,didn't know he was there until his tracers hit me.He did show on dar as i went down.
WE  have allowed vocal minority to change game. I was happy with old setting so i didn't complain.
  Another example of vocal minority :x :x
  Took away F3 in Il2 and we ended up losing GHI,a great player and he made game fun.
  Took away feet dry spawn to accommodate the horde,it made the game fun defend.

    I think this is the worst change AH has made

That's hilarious  :banana: :banana:

It works exactly as happened to you..to pull your head out of the cockpit like it should be..not playing the game via the clipboard only/majority....

We need a clipboard queen icon for whines like this.. :joystick:

Eagler
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: hazmatt on October 30, 2026, 08:25:22 AM
I was in Tempy wepped out om the deck trying for RTB. Checked dar was clear Joker dropped in with P47 ,didn't know he was there until his tracers hit me.

Sounds like a classic bounce to me.
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: Dadtallica on October 30, 2026, 09:29:31 AM
That's hilarious  :banana: :banana:

It works exactly as happened to you..to pull your head out of the cockpit like it should be..not playing the game via the clipboard only/majority....

We need a clipboard queen icon for whines like this.. :joystick:

Eagler

Not everybody is looking for this level of realism that’s why they play this game. They play others.
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: LilMak on October 30, 2026, 10:00:32 AM
Not everybody is looking for this level of realism that’s why they play this game. They play others.
This game, for the majority of its existence, had exactly this level of realism.

Don’t want to get bounced? Look out the window, check your six with your eyeballs, roll your wings, pull a crazy Ivan every now and then.
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: Dadtallica on October 30, 2026, 10:04:06 AM
This game, for the majority of its existence, had exactly this level of realism.

Don’t want to get bounced? Look out the window, check your six with your eyeballs, roll your wings, pull a crazy Ivan every now and then.

That was then…

I’ve already adjusted to it so it doesn’t bother me anymore. I still would like it to be back to five and I think maybe 10 is better. Also, we haven’t seen what it will look like when the icon fade over time that might help a lot.
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: LilMak on October 30, 2026, 10:13:23 AM
That was then…

I’ve already adjusted to it so it doesn’t bother me anymore. I still would like it to be back to five and I think maybe 10 is better. Also, we haven’t seen what it will look like when the icon fade over time that might help a lot.
I think 20 is OK (no shorter). However, I think the radar rings (when active) should be returned to 5. The problem, if that happens, becomes the potential confusion if there’s no delineation between a contact within a ring or outside.
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: 1Cane on October 30, 2026, 10:45:22 AM
Working as expected...

It's to get your head out of the cockpit and actually look around for yourself..

I was happy when it was 1st changed to 45 seconds but I can see that as too much for many clipboard queens..

Eagler

GHI was a fantastic player left the game because the changes over F3 and the IL2
Will a Tierra be involved ,want to know what to wear. You want to make the game more realistic get killed and you're out of it.
Until then I think this is a terrible change and make the play worse.
News that is 20s late at 360mph is useles
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: LilMak on October 30, 2026, 11:56:01 AM

GHI was a fantastic player left the game because the changes over F3 and the IL2
Will a Tierra be involved ,want to know what to wear. You want to make the game more realistic get killed and you're out of it.
Until then I think this is a terrible change and make the play worse.
News that is 20s late at 360mph is useles
Icons haven’t changed. That plane didn’t warp onto your six. It got there because you had your eyes down on a iPad instead of outside on the sky. This is a real problem now in actual pilot training. People are becoming overly dependent on electronic equipment and forgetting how to actually fly. It’s going to take a minute to adjust to eyes outside but you’ll get there.

As far as players quitting, the biggest exodus I witnessed was during the institution of clipboard radar for all manned equipment (GVs and planes as radar towers). It wasn’t one or two. It was multitudes. Players like myself and others didn’t immediately see the issue when it was introduced but came to the realization that it was bad for the game shortly thereafter. The clipboard is a tool and never should have been a complete substitute for general SA. Especially since it gives advantage to the horde. HT absolutely did the right thing by reeling it back in some.
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: Eagler on October 30, 2026, 12:15:45 PM
Maybe you can ask crew chief if anyone is on your six one day ..

Eagler
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: The Fugitive on October 30, 2026, 01:46:26 PM
This is the worst change that Ah has done!  At 360 mph 20 second delay is 2 miles.
 Recently my side had lost a base ,I was in Tempy wepped out om the deck trying for RTB. Checked dar was clear Joker dropped in with P47 ,didn't know he was there until his tracers hit me.He did show on dar as i went down.
WE  have allowed vocal minority to change game. I was happy with old setting so i didn't complain.
  Another example of vocal minority :x :x
  Took away F3 in Il2 and we ended up losing GHI,a great player and he made game fun.
  Took away feet dry spawn to accommodate the horde,it made the game fun defend.

    I think this is the worst change AH has made

F3 was removed in early 2011, I know because I made a cartoon about it in March of 2011. GHI still shows scoring in 2018, 7 years later. Im thinking GHI left because during Euro  prime times the numbers were too low to make it fun any more.
Title: Re: Slowed refresh of radar
Post by: hazmatt on October 30, 2026, 03:01:58 PM
Maybe you can ask crew chief if anyone is on your six one day ..

Eagler


hahahaha. I might come back to fly with crew chief on my phone.
Crew chief: "fly like skyer an make sure to keep checking my 6"
(as I eat popcorn and watch my ai controlled drone go on a murderous rampage on my phone)
That's good stuff!