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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: angels10 on March 27, 2010, 10:00:08 AM
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Having been drafted by Unclkurt into the CLAIM JUMPERS SQUAD almost one and a half years ago some memories come to mind.
One day late August I think. Memory's not as crisp as used to be, one Pilot calling HELP HELP there's a bandit on my six,I am bingo ammo! Wait make it 3 bandits! The radio comes alive "location alt direction" then a pause for what seems like forever. A3 5k South! Unclkurt"s voice cracks vis low two oclock! Rac's voice cracks copy vis, then Flifast yells splash 1 !!! He had already seen him coming in. kurt breaks into lead pursuit from high #2 splash #2 comes across the radio. Bandit on the pilot's direct 6 didn't break. The radio screams I'am HIT I"AM HIT GOING IN!!! He did not survive the fight.
What I remember most about that night wasn't getting my tail shot off, or my squadron dropping what they were doing to help me. It was the class on maneuvers they were willing to teach for the next half hour. :angels:10
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Throw me a friggen clue here, Im the boss ya know!
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Poor skuzzy, no one ever gives him a break on weekends, INstead he has to come here and lock this. cause its gonna get ugly :bolt:
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oh dear :uhoh
This is gonna be fun to watch :devil
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You know, its amazing how many people stand up to be the scapegoat. ok im done. gonna go get beer, when i get back i hope all of hell has burn this mofo down!!!
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This happens all the time in the 80th and we limit ourselves to about 15 members
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I have no clue wtf this is about. Oh well, I'll just go with the flow and say IN. Except not quite IN, since you're all so busy saying IN that you'll never get to the stuff that'll actually cause it to be IN.
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This happens all the time in the 80th and we limit ourselves to about 15 members
Well, at least the "HELP ME!!!" and "I'm hit! I'm gong in!" part... not so much the squaddies coming to the rescue, they're usually too busy pointing and laughing. :)
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Well, at least the "HELP ME!!!" and "I'm hit! I'm gong in!" part... not so much the squaddies coming to the rescue, they're usually too busy pointing and laughing. :)
I think I have a good idea as to who that person was :D
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Well, at least the "HELP ME!!!" and "I'm hit! I'm gong in!" part... not so much the squaddies coming to the rescue, they're usually too busy pointing and laughing. :)
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People wait around for anyone from a "mega squad" to post then act like a bunch of high schoolers berating someone they do not like. We are suppose to be grown ups. If you do not like them why post something off topic.
Sounds like a fun squad angels.
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:rock Gotta Devils haircut....in my mind
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:rock Gotta Devils haircut....IN my mind
aww Billy, not you too!
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This is........just pathetic....i dont know what to say
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This is........just pathetic....i dont know what to say
nuff said Junky, nuff said :aok
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This will certainly not end well :old:
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I heard Claim Jumpers is a good restaurant.
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I heard Claim Jumpers is a good restaurant.
They also make Chicken pot pies to, granted not as good as Marie Calenders, or Banquet ,but they do contain alot of chicken meat.
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119 members, I thought they were pushing the 150 range. Maybe HTC should get rid of the Knights, and make one country just Clam Jumpers. I'd enjoy that myself.
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Latrobe is in the CJ's right? Hes a good stick :salute
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This is kind of like a dweeb check thread.
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I like that quote in the first screenshot: "just close your eyes and pull Snailman". :lol
As to the rest, I thought the OP's post was fairly benign. Clearly I missed something vital.
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:rofl good one
Very INtriguing thread!
<S> Oz
PS I forgot the image would be removed. Referring to the "Processing give a damn" :rofl
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reporting something on 200 is only sleazy and low, so get ready to be upset on how 200 will be abused, gonna be real hard to run missions without the other countries knowing about it.
I hope Skuzzy takes note of this "threat" and as soon as you start your "sleazy and low" reportings on 200, he will bring the ban stick out of the closet.
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Maybe one day everyone will join the same squad and fly around the map in one big blob pwning bases (which nobody will defend since everyone is in the same squad) and win war after war. <-------- Claim Jumpers' wettest of dreams
119 members, I thought they were pushing the 150 range. Maybe HTC should get rid of the Knights, and make one country just Clam Jumpers. I'd enjoy that myself.
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If this is what you mean by affecting the outcome of the game, I thank you. It's nice to not have to look around for victims. While it may be a boon for me(I love killing hordelings) to have so many baby seals gathered in one spot, I am certain this isn't good for gameplay. Most folks aren't going to want to face such odds. These screenies from tonight where I culled several CJ's from the horde.
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Earlier that day they were running massive NOE's while they had the numbers against the bish and knits.
I logged in around noon and went to the first base flashing with no dar and Viola, there they were trying to grab another, it was time to grab the seal club boys!.
I felt so bad clubbing as many seals as my arm could take, but without greed I did share with several bish in this helpless slaughter of baby seals, yes dam-it I am now a murderer of fuzzy helpless animals. :D
Busting up each of their NOEs for the day was fun, sadly for me they never came back to NOE against the bish, I see from you screen shot they went to the knits.
Please please please come back to NOE the bish, promise I will hit you between the eyes instead of the spine this time as to be less painful, its my Tempy tour the next two weeks anyhow :devil
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Hope everyone who got hit with a bulletin board suspension enjoys the time off.
There was absolutely nothing that warranted the reaction the OP got. Rule #0: If you cannot abide by our forum posting rules, keep your fat fingers off of the keyboard!
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Its Sunday, Skuzzy, don't you go to church or something? :rofl
(I can see Skuzzy moderating in here with a blackberry from a church pew)
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Its Sunday, Skuzzy, don't you go to church or something? :rofl
(I can see Skuzzy moderating in here with a blackberry from a church pew)
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This thread should be renamed rule #1,2 and 4....
Lot's of good guys in CJs. Unfortunately a great squad idea in the beginning turned into "Hey I see you aren't in a squad...wanna join one?" Being the biggest doesn't make one the best.
I was a founding member of CJ's when JV44 Nighthawks splintered. The squad started out with about 15 diehard experienced guys. Then something changed. Away went the conquer by planning and skill (with normal numbers)to lets make a megasquad and NOE everything. After several months of this with no change in sight around 8-10 of the original members left and now reside in 2 different squads. One, 7th FS "Screaming Demons", is made up of 5 guys who have been together since JV44. The other houses the remaining 2-4 (SWAMPDRAGONS). There are a couple other guys floating in other squads as well who were with me in JV44 all those years ago (you know who you are <S>). If CJs are truly disbanding I wish you all clear skies and I hope you can find new homes. :salute
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This thread should be renamed rule #1,2 and 4....
Lot's of good guys in CJs. Unfortunately a great squad idea in the beginning turned into "Hey I see you aren't in a squad...wanna join one?" Being the biggest doesn't make one the best.
I was a founding member of CJ's when JV44 Nighthawks splintered. The squad started out with about 15 diehard experienced guys. Then something changed. Away went the conquer by planning and skill (with normal numbers)to lets make a megasquad and NOE everything. After several months of this with no change in sight around 8-10 of the original members left and now reside in 2 different squads. One, 7th FS "Screaming Demons", is made up of 5 guys who have been together since JV44. The other houses the remaining 2-4 (SWAMPDRAGONS). There are a couple other guys floating in other squads as well who were with me in JV44 all those years ago (you know who you are <S>). If CJs are truly disbanding I wish you all clear skies and I hope you can find new homes. :salute
CJ's started when those "Alliance" missions kicked up. Those things were IMO terrible for gameplay....3-4 whole sqauds taking 1 base...some might call that team work I call it overkill :salute
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So, I don't think I've ever posted on here before... now seems like a good time as any.
I'm not a regular flier. I don't fly every day, not even every other day. I fly when I feel like it and have the time. That's the reason I fly with the CJ's. They are a very casual bunch of guys and you can jump on at just about any time of day and find a squaddie to wing up with. I may not be the best stick out there, but when I do shoot someone down and then get PM'd by my victim calling me a "hordeling", trying to belittle me for having done nothing other than play the game, I get a little upset. Especially considering that in this situation, I was not in a CJ mission, I was as a matter of fact, on my own looking for stragglers of a failed attack on our base.
Lately there has been a whole lot of bashing of the CJ's for no apparent reason other than... "squad envy"? Smaller squads wishing they could do what we do? Why are you all bashing our NOE raid tactic? It's completely valid, if not the most effective / efficient way to take a base... why waste time? If all you want to do is furball aimlessly, please go to the DA! That's what it's for! The MA has a goal behind the furballing and base-taking... I play to win the war, within the rules of the game.
Granted, some CJ's like to run their mouths and are also not helping the situation. The CJ's who are speaking up now are in my opinion the ones who did not wish to get involved initially, myself included. Enough is enough though. I've seen normally quiet Claim Jumpers get right angry and lash out on the boards here. That's obviously not the right approach, but neither is slamming our squad and calling us names.
Can we all please demonstrate a little bit more airmanship / sportsmanship here? This is getting ridiculous. It's just a game. Let's play and have fun.
P.S. I very much like the attitude of those who call us "baby seals" and want to club us. Much better than throwing insults for no reason. If our raids look like a free lunch to you guys, by all means, come get some :)
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Junky that was actually a few months after CJs started, but it is a valid point.
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those alliance missions been around alot longer than CJ's. was pre eny and arena's caps. Happened once a week (tuesday or sunday i forget) and was just about the only day the rooks had numbers. back then was mostly bish or nits with the hordes.
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What a post Mav <<S>>
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So, I don't think I've ever posted on here before... now seems like a good time as any.
I'm not a regular flier. I don't fly every day, not even every other day. I fly when I feel like it and have the time. That's the reason I fly with the CJ's. They are a very casual bunch of guys and you can jump on at just about any time of day and find a squaddie to wing up with. I may not be the best stick out there, but when I do shoot someone down and then get PM'd by my victim calling me a "hordeling", trying to belittle me for having done nothing other than play the game, I get a little upset. Especially considering that in this situation, I was not in a CJ mission, I was as a matter of fact, on my own looking for stragglers of a failed attack on our base.
Lately there has been a whole lot of bashing of the CJ's for no apparent reason other than... "squad envy"? Smaller squads wishing they could do what we do? Why are you all bashing our NOE raid tactic? It's completely valid, if not the most effective / efficient way to take a base... why waste time? If all you want to do is furball aimlessly, please go to the DA! That's what it's for! The MA has a goal behind the furballing and base-taking... I play to win the war, within the rules of the game.
Granted, some CJ's like to run their mouths and are also not helping the situation. The CJ's who are speaking up now are in my opinion the ones who did not wish to get involved initially, myself included. Enough is enough though. I've seen normally quiet Claim Jumpers get right angry and lash out on the boards here. That's obviously not the right approach, but neither is slamming our squad and calling us names.
Can we all please demonstrate a little bit more airmanship / sportsmanship here? This is getting ridiculous. It's just a game. Let's play and have fun.
P.S. I very much like the attitude of those who call us "baby seals" and want to club us. Much better than throwing insults for no reason. If our raids look like a free lunch to you guys, by all means, come get some :)
Your first post had some thought to it :salute The thing that got the CJ's on the bad side of the community was the mass-report, that beef will go away with time always does.
Your stance on why go NOE at a base is also a cause for concern. This game is about combat on all levels. These NOE horde missions make it so you avoid this combat, this is the reason people give you crap. Its not sqaud envy, your sqaud has 3-4 x as many people then any other sqaud and most of them could hand you a whooping in a straight up fight. I understand why you like your sqaud, I like mine for my own personal reasons and anyone who talks bad about it.......They are gunna get an ear full from me. Just take the heat in stride and drive on :salute
those alliance missions been around alot longer than CJ's. was pre eny and arena's caps. Happened once a week (tuesday or sunday i forget) and was just about the only day the rooks had numbers. back then was mostly bish or nits with the hordes.
This was a Knight thing about 2 years ago, I think we are thing about 2 different time eras. These ones were run by ROX and RacDogg.
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CJ's started when those "Alliance" missions kicked up. Those things were IMO terrible for gameplay....3-4 whole sqauds taking 1 base...some might call that team work I call it overkill :salute
What is your opinion for what is good for gameplay? Is the MA not setup for base taking and is a map reset not the goal and definition of what that arena is designed for? I understand that there are those that want to demonstrate their uber piloting skills, but not everyone has excellent skills myself included. We all pay to play here. I enjoy when we get organized and run a few missions as a group, we have fun with each other and often other squads join us. It's a game for christ's sake, as long as we are playing by the rules why does anyone else care what we do? There is no chain of command to determine if or when a squad may run a mission or how. I can assure you that the CJ's do not care what any other squad does with their time on this game at any time. Last time I checked this was still a free country and we should have the liberty to run our squad as we see fit as long as we abide by the rules that hitech has set.
I call it exploiting our strengths and covering our weaknesses.
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What is your opinion for what is good for gameplay? Is the MA not setup for base taking and is a map reset not the goal and definition of what that arena is designed for? I understand that there are those that want to demonstrate their uber piloting skills, but not everyone has excellent skills myself included. We all pay to play here. I enjoy when we get organized and run a few missions as a group, we have fun with each other and often other squads join us. It's a game for christ's sake, as long as we are playing by the rules why does anyone else care what we do?
I call it exploiting our strengths and covering our weaknesses.
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Easy killer dont get worked up, Im just stating my opinion. I like to be the best at everything I do, Im competitive and cocky as crap.....thats me. I cant get the idea of path of least resistence through my head in a game like this. Why make it easy?
I will post in the next couple of weeks of a mission that POTW runs going for a base capture. You will notice a big difference in the intensity of our vox channel once we get in the mode. Maybe it might help you understnad where some of the other people are coming from.
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I don't see anything wrong with the CJs, other than the fact they don't live up to their name anymore and stay rooks! :neener:
They are always fun to hook up with and they keep each others' sixes clean. Sure they have a big squad, but isn't that what PLAYING a game to have FUN is all about?
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Your first post had some thought to it :salute The thing that got the CJ's on the bad side of the community was the mass-report, that beef will go away with time always does.
Your stance on why go NOE at a base is also a cause for concern. This game is about combat on all levels. These NOE horde missions make it so you avoid this combat, this is the reason people give you crap. Its not sqaud envy, your sqaud has 3-4 x as many people then any other sqaud and most of them could hand you a whooping in a straight up fight. I understand why you like your sqaud, I like mine for my own personal reasons and anyone who talks bad about it.......They are gunna get an ear full from me. Just take the heat in stride and drive on :saluteThis was a Knight thing about 2 years ago, I think we are thing about 2 different time eras. These ones were run by ROX and RacDogg.
uhhhh, wasn't this last bit of CJ bashing started by you and Squat1 criticizing a NOE 110 mission going INTO a huge furball? :headscratch:
Not exactly sure about the straight up whoopin' comment either, but we agree to disagree. :aok
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What is your opinion for what is good for gameplay? Is the MA not setup for base taking and is a map reset not the goal and definition of what that arena is designed for? I understand that there are those that want to demonstrate their uber piloting skills, but not everyone has excellent skills myself included. We all pay to play here. I enjoy when we get organized and run a few missions as a group, we have fun with each other and often other squads join us. It's a game for christ's sake, as long as we are playing by the rules why does anyone else care what we do?
I call it exploiting our strengths and covering our weaknesses.
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I would argue that you are incorrect in your line of thinking that the "purpose" of the MA is to win the war. I would argue that the purpose of the MA is to provide player versus player conflict and competition. That base taking is merely a means to an end, and when all the bases are gone you have to reset the map since there's nothing left to fight over. That ultimately the most satisfaction and enjoyment comes not from taking with little opposition but when something is hard fought and won.
Awhile back I was on the staff for the old Combat Theater, now the AvA, when I had to run a set up I would look at plane vs. plane performance and tried to steer away from planes that had very different strengths. A P-51 vs A6M fight is IMHO not one that should be put in a set up because it will get boring to both sides, instead I would look at things like F6F vs Ki84, or 51 vs 190D. I'm a firm believer that on a certain level my enjoyment and satisfaction of the game is based on my opponents enjoyment and satisfaction, otherwise he/she will stop playing then I'm left with nothing to shoot at.
To speak to skill level everyone here started at the bottom, with nothing and had to build up from there, the problem with covering your weakness is that it remains a weakness. The way to remove that weakness is to address it and hopefully overcome it. That's why I'm still here 10 years later, I'm still learning things which is what keeps the game fresh and me coming back.
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uhhhh, wasn't this last bit of CJ bashing started by you and Squat1 criticizing a NOE 110 mission going INTO a huge furball? :headscratch:
Not exactly sure about the straight up whoopin' comment either, but we agree to disagree. :aok
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It could have been left at that but you all typed .report :aok .
I already told raccdog on vox.......its about quality, not quantity.
The mission was pointed straight toward the fighter hangars at an already dieing furball. Another way IMO to take the path of least resistence.
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I would argue that you are incorrect in your line of thinking that the "purpose" of the MA is to win the war. I would argue that the purpose of the MA is to provide player versus player conflict and competition. That base taking is merely a means to an end, and when all the bases are gone you have to reset the map since there's nothing left to fight over. That ultimately the most satisfaction and enjoyment comes not from taking with little opposition but when something is hard fought and won.
Awhile back I was on the staff for the old Combat Theater, now the AvA, when I had to run a set up I would look at plane vs. plane performance and tried to steer away from planes that had very different strengths. A P-51 vs A6M fight is IMHO not one that should be put in a set up because it will get boring to both sides, instead I would look at things like F6F vs Ki84, or 51 vs 190D. I'm a firm believer that on a certain level my enjoyment and satisfaction of the game is based on my opponents enjoyment and satisfaction, otherwise he/she will stop playing then I'm left with nothing to shoot at.
To speak to skill level everyone here started at the bottom, with nothing and had to build up from there, the problem with covering your weakness is that it remains a weakness. The way to remove that weakness is to address it and hopefully overcome it. That's why I'm still here 10 years later, I'm still learning things which is what keeps the game fresh and me coming back.
Great stuff........read with an open mind if you like taking land :rock
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It could have been left at that but you all typed .report :aok .
I already told raccdog on vox.......its about quality, not quantity.
The mission was pointed straight toward the fighter hangars at an already dieing furball. Another way IMO to take the path of least resistence.
Well unfortunately I wasn't around for the .report fiasco. We don't need to rehash that. :devil
Like you said...your opinion
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If all you want to do is furball aimlessly, please go to the DA! That's what it's for! The MA has a goal behind the furballing and base-taking... I play to win the war, within the rules of the game.
I play to furball and there is no goal in AH except to have fun. You have fun your way, I'll have fun mine.
Admittedly, I find a squad of 13 WINGS abhorrent to game play, many agree with me, including Hitech looking at his old posts.
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What is your opinion for what is good for gameplay? Is the MA not setup for base taking and is a map reset not the goal and definition of what that arena is designed for? I understand that there are those that want to demonstrate their uber piloting skills, but not everyone has excellent skills myself included. We all pay to play here. I enjoy when we get organized and run a few missions as a group, we have fun with each other and often other squads join us. It's a game for christ's sake, as long as we are playing by the rules why does anyone else care what we do? There is no chain of command to determine if or when a squad may run a mission or how. I can assure you that the CJ's do not care what any other squad does with their time on this game at any time. Last time I checked this was still a free country and we should have the liberty to run our squad as we see fit as long as we abide by the rules that hitech has set.
I call it exploiting our strengths and covering our weaknesses.
cav1ltpb
Can you read this, and look at it with an open mind, can you read this without taking it personal and just as what it is meant.... a discussion? If so continue.
Both you and Mav1914 sound as if your defending mega squad missions, much as the CJ's are known for. You say it's your$15 and your not breaking any rules so you'll play the way you want. OK, just as a little senario, lets say 10 or 12 of the top fighter jocks got together and followed you around all night and your mega squad never gets out of the radar ring of the base you launched from. Are you still having fun? I don't think so, but on the other side of the coin the fighter jock are having a BLAST! After all they are not breaking any rules, it's their $15 and they can play anyway they want.... Right?
Good game play is where everyone has fun. While this game has a lot of spots for intense competition it is still a game is suppose to be fun. When your out with the guys playing poker while everybody is trying to "win" nobody is trying to make the other guy go broke. You want to run missions and take bases, GREAT !! just make it fun not only for your team, but the other as well. You end up with 20 guys in your mission send 5 of them off to a different base to pork radar and ords, maybe de-ack just to get it ready for the next mission. This way in stead of a horde taking one base you have to fights develop, more of your teammates have parts in the mission. Sure it's a bit harder but that makes all players better eventually. And by creating 2 smaller fights you might get some competition to try and stop you, and we all know it's more fun when you have to fight for it.
The game is suppose to be fun and challenging. Mega squads/groups are killing that fun.
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Can you read this, and look at it with an open mind, can you read this without taking it personal and just as what it is meant.... a discussion? If so continue.
Both you and Mav1914 sound as if your defending mega squad missions, much as the CJ's are known for. You say it's your$15 and your not breaking any rules so you'll play the way you want. OK, just as a little senario, lets say 10 or 12 of the top fighter jocks got together and followed you around all night and your mega squad never gets out of the radar ring of the base you launched from. Are you still having fun? I don't think so, but on the other side of the coin the fighter jock are having a BLAST! After all they are not breaking any rules, it's their $15 and they can play anyway they want.... Right?
Good game play is where everyone has fun. While this game has a lot of spots for intense competition it is still a game is suppose to be fun. When your out with the guys playing poker while everybody is trying to "win" nobody is trying to make the other guy go broke. You want to run missions and take bases, GREAT !! just make it fun not only for your team, but the other as well. You end up with 20 guys in your mission send 5 of them off to a different base to pork radar and ords, maybe de-ack just to get it ready for the next mission. This way in stead of a horde taking one base you have to fights develop, more of your teammates have parts in the mission. Sure it's a bit harder but that makes all players better eventually. And by creating 2 smaller fights you might get some competition to try and stop you, and we all know it's more fun when you have to fight for it.
The game is suppose to be fun and challenging. Mega squads/groups are killing that fun.
They always self destruct. It's inevitable. Mega squads come and go regularly. It's just a matter of time.
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Ive never understood why everyone hates the "gangbangers", the "hordes' the "pickers and vulchers" the "NOE raiders" the "2v1" the "he cleared my 12" the " hey they bombed our FH how dare they" etc etc. I thought the MA was for everyone to play in and have fun however they wanted to regardless of how others played as long as it was not breaking any rules. I guess what i dont get is there is a DA that seems to fit exactly what everyone wants. You can have a 1v1 all day long and nobody will bomb your hangers or gangbang or steal your fight or do anything every seems to hate about the MA.
The only thing the DA dont do is keep score but then again who cares about scores. Ive only ran into the mega squads a few times i guess but they seem to do there thing and we do ours and most times there free kills because there obsessed with doing there own thing. *shrug* I'm sure ill get a ear full because of my opinion but i just never understood i guess why everyone that finds so many faults with the ma's dont all just get together and play in the DA and make up there set of rules and have a blast.
No disrespect intended here just a honest question from a somewhat newer player that sees the same problems pop up almost every day and the simple solution seems to be the DA.
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First off, thanks Delirium and Fugitive for keeping the discussion out of the gutter. I think Skuzzy's house-cleaning is keeping this thread that way.
I read both of your posts and I offer this:
First to Fugitive and his 13 wing comment. Yes, we have 13 wings (I use your number, I didn't check). I think maybe 1 or 2 of those are full. A lot just have a handful of guys in them. It is a result of everyone having invite privileges. We've had internal discussion of how to fix it, but ultimately the decision was to leave it be.
Delirium, if someone grouped up and decided to target us like that, then I say bring it!!! I think that would be a challenge. It would be fun. As a squad we obviously don't care about score. We have fun. We used to run NOE LANC raids. We'd all be dead by the time it was over. We'd take the base or we wouldn't, either way, we were all laughing. I'm sure the guys who upped and got all the kills had fun as well. If you read these threads you'd think that CJs were the only ones who ever ran missions. We all know that isn't true. I've seen the Muppets, Jokers, etc all come in on NOE missions. We also don't only run NOE missions. My personal favorite mission to run is 4 plane fighter sweeps. I like using wingman tactics and everyone getting some kills and all 4 landing together. I've been a part of P51 attack runs. We've done the things that you suggested. No one talks about it b/c all they see is the 15 red dots coming in, then get on here and complain about it.
My opinion is this, if AH pushes the CJs to disband then they need to take out the mission option on the clipboard. Nothing we do is any different than you organizing a mission of people from different squads.
Come fly w/ us. We have fun and you'll see that we're not out to run anyone's fun.
:salute The Fugitive
:salute Delirium
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Ive never understood why everyone hates the "gangbangers", the "hordes' the "pickers and vulchers" the "NOE raiders" the "2v1" the "he cleared my 12" the " hey they bombed our FH how dare they" etc etc. I thought the MA was for everyone to play in and have fun however they wanted to regardless of how others played as long as it was not breaking any rules. I guess what i dont get is there is a DA that seems to fit exactly what everyone wants. You can have a 1v1 all day long and nobody will bomb your hangers or gangbang or steal your fight or do anything every seems to hate about the MA.
The only thing the DA dont do is keep score but then again who cares about scores. Ive only ran into the mega squads a few times i guess but they seem to do there thing and we do ours and most times there free kills because there obsessed with doing there own thing. *shrug* I'm sure ill get a ear full because of my opinion but i just never understood i guess why everyone that finds so many faults with the ma's dont all just get together and play in the DA and make up there set of rules and have a blast.
No disrespect intended here just a honest question from a somewhat newer player that sees the same problems pop up almost every day and the simple solution seems to be the DA.
Don't like at it as so generic.
I like to defend a base from a capture.... but not against 5 to 1 odds, wheres the fun in that? I really don't care if they get the base or not as long as they fight for it.
I like to attack a base, unfortunatly the horde don't defend bases, I guess it's only fun to take bases. Wheres the fun in that?
I like to GV, but I can't stand being camped, so I leave, The camper gets no more kills, I don't GV. wheres the fun in that?
It shouldn't be the "win the war types" against the "furballers". People put too much stock in that argument. If the win the war type fought for the bases they want the furballers would have fun fighting back. Furballers would have fun, win the war types would have fun. As long as there are bases to take there would be fight to be had.
First off, thanks Delirium and Fugitive for keeping the discussion out of the gutter. I think Skuzzy's house-cleaning is keeping this thread that way.
I read both of your posts and I offer this:
First to Fugitive and his 13 wing comment. Yes, we have 13 wings (I use your number, I didn't check). I think maybe 1 or 2 of those are full. A lot just have a handful of guys in them. It is a result of everyone having invite privileges. We've had internal discussion of how to fix it, but ultimately the decision was to leave it be.
Delirium, if someone grouped up and decided to target us like that, then I say bring it!!! I think that would be a challenge. It would be fun. As a squad we obviously don't care about score. We have fun. We used to run NOE LANC raids. We'd all be dead by the time it was over. We'd take the base or we wouldn't, either way, we were all laughing. I'm sure the guys who upped and got all the kills had fun as well. If you read these threads you'd think that CJs were the only ones who ever ran missions. We all know that isn't true. I've seen the Muppets, Jokers, etc all come in on NOE missions. We also don't only run NOE missions. My personal favorite mission to run is 4 plane fighter sweeps. I like using wingman tactics and everyone getting some kills and all 4 landing together. I've been a part of P51 attack runs. We've done the things that you suggested. No one talks about it b/c all they see is the 15 red dots coming in, then get on here and complain about it.
My opinion is this, if AH pushes the CJs to disband then they need to take out the mission option on the clipboard. Nothing we do is any different than you organizing a mission of people from different squads.
Come fly w/ us. We have fun and you'll see that we're not out to run anyone's fun.
:salute The Fugitive
:salute Delirium
I think you mixed me and Del up, but thats ok. :aok
The problem is too many squads/groups are joining together and make up these hordes. I'm not just blaming the CJ's here, it's rampant across all three teams. The "leaders" of these squads/groups of these mission should take responsibility for these hordes. They have the control of the mission, adjust it on the fly. Make it fun for both sides, not just another steam rolled base.
oh and for what it's worth I don't think HTC is forcing the CJ's to disband. From what I understand a large group of them are being punished for abusing a .report command. All they have to do is take their punishment and move on.
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First off, thanks Delirium and Fugitive for keeping the discussion out of the gutter. I think Skuzzy's house-cleaning is keeping this thread that way.
I read both of your posts and I offer this:
First to Fugitive and his 13 wing comment. Yes, we have 13 wings (I use your number, I didn't check). I think maybe 1 or 2 of those are full. A lot just have a handful of guys in them. It is a result of everyone having invite privileges. We've had internal discussion of how to fix it, but ultimately the decision was to leave it be.
Delirium, if someone grouped up and decided to target us like that, then I say bring it!!! I think that would be a challenge. It would be fun. As a squad we obviously don't care about score. We have fun. We used to run NOE LANC raids. We'd all be dead by the time it was over. We'd take the base or we wouldn't, either way, we were all laughing. I'm sure the guys who upped and got all the kills had fun as well. If you read these threads you'd think that CJs were the only ones who ever ran missions. We all know that isn't true. I've seen the Muppets, Jokers, etc all come in on NOE missions. We also don't only run NOE missions. My personal favorite mission to run is 4 plane fighter sweeps. I like using wingman tactics and everyone getting some kills and all 4 landing together. I've been a part of P51 attack runs. We've done the things that you suggested. No one talks about it b/c all they see is the 15 red dots coming in, then get on here and complain about it.
My opinion is this, if AH pushes the CJs to disband then they need to take out the mission option on the clipboard. Nothing we do is any different than you organizing a mission of people from different squads.
Come fly w/ us. We have fun and you'll see that we're not out to run anyone's fun.
:salute The Fugitive
:salute Delirium
Most of the missions are NOE or huge buff runs which flatten a base. Give your opponent a chance to fight back for once and I think you will find it more fun and enjoyable then any NOE run. Also I do believe some of the mega horde base taker do hate when they dont capture a base, which is the wrong attitude to have in the game in the first place. If I got 2 kills in a sortie where the 2 cons had an alt advantage and E advantage on me in better rides and landed it, Id be happier with it then if I was shooting planes down that were low and slow and landed 15 kills. The first scenario would have been a challenge the other is just shooting fish in a bucket
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I think you mixed me and Del up, but thats ok. :aok
The problem is too many squads/groups are joining together and make up these hordes. I'm not just blaming the CJ's here, it's rampant across all three teams. The "leaders" of these squads/groups of these mission should take responsibility for these hordes. They have the control of the mission, adjust it on the fly. Make it fun for both sides, not just another steam rolled base.
oh and for what it's worth I don't think HTC is forcing the CJ's to disband. From what I understand a large group of them are being punished for abusing a .report command. All they have to do is take their punishment and move on.
I agree, steam-rolling bases w/ no opposition is boring...to me anyway. I prefer the multi-faceted missions that I've been a part of.
I don't think we are being disbanded, either. I wasn't there for the mass report drama, so I don't know what is happening to those folks.
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Most of the missions are NOE or huge buff runs which flatten a base. Give your opponent a chance to fight back for once and I think you will find it more fun and enjoyable then any NOE run. Also I do believe some of the mega horde base taker do hate when they dont capture a base, which is the wrong attitude to have in the game in the first place. If I got 2 kills in a sortie where the 2 cons had an alt advantage and E advantage on me in better rides and landed it, Id be happier with it then if I was shooting planes down that were low and slow and landed 15 kills. The first scenario would have been a challenge the other is just shooting fish in a bucket
I agree with your statement about landing two vs fifteen. Although, landing 15 is fun too :aok
Like i said in my post above, we run different missions, I don't have a percentage of NOE vs non-NOE, but I'd guess it's higher NOE. All I can say is that we are who we are.
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I agree with your statement about landing two vs fifteen. Although, landing 15 is fun too :aok
Like i said in my post above, we run different missions, I don't have a percentage of NOE vs non-NOE, but I'd guess it's higher NOE. All I can say is that we are who we are.
See we understand this, we are trying to open your mind to a different side of the force......its called ownage :aok
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See we understand this, we are trying to open your mind to a different side of the force......its called ownage :aok
No, it's opening your mind to the fact that we do more than run 110s NOE. Ownage is was happened to your chat privileges after we .reported you :neener:
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No, it's opening your mind to the fact that we do more than run 110s NOE. Ownage is was happened to your chat privileges after we .reported you :neener:
Actually, ownage is what happened to your entire squad after Skuzzy saw what you guys did.
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No, it's opening your mind to the fact that we do more than run 110s NOE. Ownage is was happened to your chat privileges after we .reported you :neener:
Oh dont go there :devil . I understand you dont just do NOE runs but it was what most of us see 90% of the time we have ever engaged you :aok
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Actually, ownage is what happened to your entire squad after Skuzzy saw what you guys did.
Funny thing is they keep saying nobody lost anything :noid
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So......anyone want to start an uber super duper mega squad with me?
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I was also absent for the mass reporting and some of the silliness involved in recent FSO's.
To that end, all I ask is this: Please do not paint all Claim Jumpers with the same brush. Just look at the sheer number of players in the squad. We are evidently very diverse in both our skill levels and opinions.
To me, this is like when people complain about being bombed when they're in tank town. Sure it sucks to get bombed when you're trying to worry about enemy tanks, but it is all a part of the game. The game is called "Aces High", not "tank commander" or some such.
I can see both sides of the argument here and both have valid points. Unless anyone is violating any terms of use for the game, all I have to say is this:
All points brought up in this thread (mass missions, NOE runs, base steamrolling) are a part of the game. No one is cheating or using game mechanics in an inappropriate manner by doing these things. IMO, It is up to players to find a way to counter these different strategies. We all cannot be winning all the time. It just doesn't work that way.
Btw, if you see us coming NOE, nothing makes me soil my underpants quite like a half dozen wirbles waiting.... doesn't take much to counter someone's plans.
You win some, you lose some. Carry on.
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I was also absent for the mass reporting and some of the silliness involved in recent FSO's.
To that end, all I ask is this: Please do not paint all Claim Jumpers with the same brush. Just look at the sheer number of players in the squad. We are evidently very diverse in both our skill levels and opinions.
To me, this is like when people complain about being bombed when they're in tank town. Sure it sucks to get bombed when you're trying to worry about enemy tanks, but it is all a part of the game. The game is called "Aces High", not "tank commander" or some such.
I can see both sides of the argument here and both have valid points. Unless anyone is violating any terms of use for the game, all I have to say is this:
All points brought up in this thread (mass missions, NOE runs, base steamrolling) are a part of the game. No one is cheating or using game mechanics in an inappropriate manner by doing these things. IMO, It is up to players to find a way to counter these different strategies. We all cannot be winning all the time. It just doesn't work that way.
Btw, if you see us coming NOE, nothing makes me soil my underpants quite like a half dozen wirbles waiting.... doesn't take much to counter someone's plans.
You win some, you lose some. Carry on.
20+ birds fully loaded hitting a small airfield NOE has to take the base if it doesnt something went wrong, like the goon brought supps instead of troops. No challenege in that even if they do up 5 whirbs
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Actually, ownage is what happened to your entire squad after Skuzzy saw what you guys did.
Might wanna check your sources....
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Whatever, I've said I came to say.
Have fun
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Mav, is that Paul Revere?
Todd
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Actually, ownage is what happened to your entire squad after Skuzzy saw what you guys did.
Anyone got a screenie? How many pelts did Herr Skuzzmeister land?
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Anyone got a screenie? How many pelts did Herr Skuzzmeister land?
All proxies ! :D
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I hope Skuzzy takes note of this "threat" and as soon as you start your "sleazy and low" reportings on 200, he will bring the ban stick out of the closet.
Like Skuzzy said its not a rule, just sleazy kinda like you Flaming idiots on here everytime a CJ posts anything.
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I am locking this thread as it is nothing more thahn a bunch of posters out of control.
Do not make the mistake of trying to start another one to keep this running. It will result in a ban from the bulletin board.