I see more Red every time we do this.

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by Vudak
Ie, do we really need a constitutional amendment defining what a "person" is, and not having that definition be equal?

Under the suggested amendment, any unmarried person is perfectly equal to marry someone who is unmarried of the opposite gender.  There is no inequality about it.

Now for it to be written in the constitution, that is wrong as the constitution is to limit the power of government.  Murder and theft are not unconstitutional as the are not mentioned in the constitution.

Marriage definitions should remain statutory.

[mora]

Originally posted by Vudak
I tell you, I define myself as a moderate Republican, I sent Bush money, and supported him up until he backed the whole amendment movement...  But I'm a northerner.  I can go to my town hall and see a pillar with the names of all the men, just from my small town, that died to make men equal.  It really strikes me as sinister that today we might try to do anything less.

You seem to be part of a very small minority, most people over there seem to follow their leader blindly(in both camps).

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

It isn't that more people are becoming Republicans, just fewer people are becoming what the Democrats feel their party should be. The Democrats have once again turned far to the left, that is not where the majority of the U.S. wants to go.

People aren't leaving the Democrats, the Democrats are leaving the people.

If the Democrats fail to stop their rapid slide to the left, their base will shrink down to those who hate the right, the socialists and marxists, the rest of the FAR left, the homosexuals, and those who vote Democrat because they or their families always have. And that last segment is rapidly dying off.

The sad part of that is the Republican party and the nation will suffer for it. Without a reasonable Democratic party as a viable alternative, the Republican party will have no serious competition, and it is the competition that makes the system work.

[mora]

What exactly are the dems doing that puts them in the far left? I'm asking this seriously as from euro POV both of your parties are heavily in the right. For example, are you a commie if you support gay marriages?

[eskimo2]

I see the Republicans won Lake Michigan.


eskimo

[AKIron]

Originally posted by mora
What exactly are the dems doing that puts them in the far left? I'm asking this seriously as from euro POV both of your parties are heavily in the right. For example, are you a commie if you support gay marriages?

Communism has little in common with support for gay marriage. For many, "communism" did become synonymous with subversion during the cold war. Not without justification imo.

Many in this country are traditionalists. Those holding to this believe that certain values and principles are necessary to maintain our nation's health and prosperity. Others sneer at that word as if it connotes bigotry, simple or closed mindedness, and ignorance.

The left have done much sneering lately but have discovered they are the minority and their revulsion has been repulsed.

[Toad]

Yeah, they got almost all the fisherman vote. The Dems should have never put out that ban on treble hooks and rod registration agenda from Fishingrod Control Incorporated.

[Charon]

Do you actually buy that Bravo Sierra?

For the United States, the age of the conscript soldier is over. Being a soldier these days is a profession, it is a far different military than it was in the day of the citizen soldier. Hence the importance of the National Guard and the Reserves. Fortunately, for the most part, the U.S. military is a much smaller more effective force using a lot more of Boyd's tactics as opposed to the earlier days of massive numerical forces.

We'll just have to see how the numbers add up. Iraq is being run at the Reserve's and Guard's expense, with multiple deployments that in many cases are causing severe financial hardship to the point of losing businesses and homes.

Stop loss is also not very well appreciated - there is no gurantee what an enlistment entails anymore - and the word is getting around. There are some initial indications that when given the chance, there will be a massive deflation of the numbers in the Guard and Reserves (with little recruitment to replace the losses), and some impact on the regular military.

So, whether or not it is BS will depend on the numbers and how quickly Iraq is brought under control. If either or both is favorable, then all is well. If not, then likely a draft or some extreme incentives ($$$) to make sure the numbers add up. Simple math, regardless of the politics.

Here's Hackworth's  perspective on the issue:

Most of our warriors – who are mainly from blue-collar families from Small Town, USA – have few political connections and few conduits though which they can effectively sound off. So when they get screwed over by a desperate Pentagon’s makeshift policies – such as the “Stop Loss” program that’s holding over large numbers of our servicemen and -women well beyond their contractually agreed-upon terms of enlistment, or the widespread calling up of out-of-shape, ill-trained citizen soldiers from the Individual Ready Reserve – these “volunteers” salute, suck it up and lay their lives on the line.

But like elephants, they won’t forget that they are “backdoor draftees,” as Kerry and John McCain call them. Which means that when their hitches are up, they won’t be rushing to re-enlist. And they’re also warning their younger brothers, sisters and pals to stay away from recruiting stations.        

Although Pentagon puff artists insist they’re making quota, recruiters are already saying it would be easier to find $100 bills on the sidewalk outside a homeless shelter than fill their enlistment quotas, even with the huge bonuses now being paid.

http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/csNews.cgi?database=Hacks%20Target.db&command=viewone&op=t&id=92&rnd=641.5475424872716

Charon

[Nash]

Originally posted by Toad
Yeah, they got almost all the fisherman vote. The Dems should have never put out that ban on treble hooks and rod registration agenda from Fishingrod Control Incorporated.

Jesious.

I colored that thing in 2 minutes which is about what it was worth. So a swath of red cuts across a damned lake. I also forgot to color DC blue but do ya complain about that? Nooooooo....

[Toad]

Hey! Good thing the "treble hook" deal didn't pass!

I already landed one!

[JBA]

A Mandate is what it is.

1. First time in 68 years a pres. is re-elected and adds senate and house seats.

2.first time in a long time Party leader loses. Tom daschel.

3.recived more the 50% of vote. That will be the high water mark for years to come. We will not have 60-70-80% winners ever again.

(Side note Clinton never got 50% in two elections)
and J F KENNEDY won by less then the margin in Ohio alone.

4. Added 2-4% points in every state.

5. Nearly 4 million more votes then Kerry

6.nearly 8 million more then 2000

7.increased Hispanic vote to 42% and black to 11%

[Elfie]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Not "most", but a majority.

Isnt *most* a *majority*?