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Offline Sparks

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« on: September 18, 2000, 04:29:00 AM »
Which acks can kill a tank and which can't??

I've attacked several fields now and sometimes I can drive into ack range and they just bounce off. Other times I get 6-10 pings and then a track comes off and then 6-10 pings later I'm dead. Other times 3-4 pings and it's towersville. What is the difference.??

Offline Mark Luper

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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2000, 05:17:00 AM »
Some fields have 40mm and 80mm ack. Those would tend to do you in. The ones with only 50 cal. ack probably will just bounce off.

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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2000, 07:53:00 AM »
Sparks;

There are three kinds of ack modeled in AH;
4 x 50 cal.  (Rarely does damage, if so busted track or wounded driver at the most.)
40mm  (This sucker hurts! Can kill you in 1 round.)
88mm flack  (These do not shoot at anything on the ground, but shoot shells that explode in the air.  I am not sure what the minimum alt is that they shoot at.  If you are low on ammo and have busted all the other ack types, you can drive right up next to an 88 and shoot it with your top mg!)

You can find out the exact layout of ack type placement in maps such as Glarsmaps.

Click on Links from the home page, and look for Glars and other maps.

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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2000, 02:45:00 PM »
I thought it was 4x20mm acks and not .50's? When hit by them it is always the 'Cannon' hit sound played, not the 'ping' from a MG.

Anyway all fields have both the 40mm's and 4x??mm tho.

I made some 'sattelite' pics with labels of the 3 field types, instead of the drawings of for instance Glar's. I just liked it better that way.
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2000, 02:49:00 PM »
Ahhh - thanks Eskimo - I've just started using the Glars maps as they seem to the best and they show the different ack types and that explains it all

Thanks very much  

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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2000, 04:38:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Sparks:
Ahhh - thanks Eskimo - I've just started using the Glars maps as they seem to the best and they show the different ack types and that explains it all

Thanks very much  
Sparks,

Are there new maps for the new arena?? If so where can they be obtained?

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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2000, 06:19:00 PM »
The Glars maps says 4 x 50.

It may be 20 mms though, I am not sure.  The ack at Vehicle bases are the small acks, and they can deffinitly trash a tank.  Hmm..., Glarsmaps may have it wrong...

I do know the range of the smallest acks is 6300 feet, however.  (Prolly 1/2 that for groud vehicles though.)

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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2000, 04:09:00 AM »
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The Glars Maps are available via a link on HTC's links page from the main HTC homepage. I used the Acrobat version - they are very clear and detailed - I like them a lot.

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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2000, 05:40:00 AM »
Ack at V-bases are 40mm (Drive close, it only has one barrel)
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2000, 07:53:00 AM »
The quad mount weapons are suppose to be 20mm's. Look at object name (shape) in the terrain editor.

However I do know you can set the "type/caliber" regardless of the shape in the editor.  

But I would go with the fact that they're 20mm's.

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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2000, 01:36:00 PM »
LLv34.. nice work, just took a peek.

All this leads to a natural question:

what is the range of the 40mm and the 88s?

I've been hit by flak at 25,000 in a Lanc, so I assume the 88s are getting me..

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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2000, 06:58:00 PM »
Whatever the size;
The smallest acks have a range of 6,300 feet.

The larger go out to 9,000 feet.

I have been hit by 88mm flack at 33,000 feet.
I assume it goes even higher.

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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2000, 12:27:00 PM »
I bombed #12 yesterday in a B26. I was at 20,000, the field is at 4.
The ACK was all around me and I was weaving a bit. After three minutes of level but slightly weaving flight, I was still taking small hits. My speed was between 160 and 180, which means I had travelled about 3 miles.

 So, my height over the field was still 16,000 feet, and the ACK was travelling another three miles in an arc in order to hit me. I would say the range must be modeled at least 7 miles. Anyone know if that's accurate?

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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2000, 08:44:00 PM »
Field #12 is a large field and thus have 88mm FLAK. Those will easily hit you at 20K (or 16K as it happened due to field's levitation).
So was it the AA's with tracers that hit you, or just the one with the black 'puffs'?

If it was the former, something was wrong, if it was the latter thats just something to take into consideration. Those can't be 'roofed'.

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