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Offline jigsaw

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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2005, 04:23:59 PM »
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The movie was actually filmed near here.


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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2005, 06:23:59 PM »
I thought it was a pretty good movie.  Well worth watching.

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« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2005, 06:34:25 PM »
Ok movie except for the stunted spaniard tony flags.  the book was interesting I read it in '77 and it did remind me of beowulf.

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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2005, 06:50:41 PM »
hmmm..never even heard of this film.  Must give it a whirl...just to see what you guys are talking about.  Sounds interesting enough to watch already.

I saw "The Nineth Gate" the other night and didn't fall asleep...almost, but not quite, so at least it is better then "I Robot".
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« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2005, 06:58:23 PM »
its a pritty good movie ... i saw it in the theatre when it 1st came out ..
"only an Arab would bring a dog to war "

id give it 4/5 also .
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« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2005, 08:25:12 PM »
The story is based off the chronicals of Ibn Fadlan an Arab who travelled with the vikings.  That's why there's so much disgust, he really did think them ignorant savages and wrote out of his own prejudices.

Crichton was intrigued by theories that remnants of the Neanderthals may have still existed in Europe, and they were written into the story as such (that's what the mist monsters/cave people are).  There was no use of the Grendel/Beowulf tales, but he does believe that coexistance of modern man and the neanderthal could explain a lot of those myths.

Surely at least one of you who read the book read the forward and the appendix?

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« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2005, 08:31:05 PM »
Who is this Fatty?

Never heard of him.

Gawdamned newb infestation.

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« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2005, 09:25:11 PM »
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The story is based off the chronicals of Ibn Fadlan an Arab who travelled with the vikings.  That's why there's so much disgust, he really did think them ignorant savages and wrote out of his own prejudices.

Crichton was intrigued by theories that remnants of the Neanderthals may have still existed in Europe, and they were written into the story as such (that's what the mist monsters/cave people are).  There was no use of the Grendel/Beowulf tales, but he does believe that coexistance of modern man and the neanderthal could explain a lot of those myths.

Surely at least one of you who read the book read the forward and the appendix?


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Adapting "Beowulf" for his novel and then for this movie, Michael Crichton changed some of the original names for ones that sounded similar: Beowulf is here named Buliwyf, Hygelac becomes Hyglak, the Grendel transformed into the Wendol, etc.


 
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Since Michael Crichton published his novel "Eaters of the Dead" in 1976, the basis of this film, it has become regarded as one of the most notorious hoaxes in Librarianship Circles. The Ahmad Tusi Manuscript that Crichton referenced in his bibliography as being the source of this story, is completely made up. The name of the translator Fraus Dolus is in fact two Latin words meaning both 'hoax' and 'fraud'. The University of Oslo, where this manuscript is supposed to be kept, have (since the book was published), on an annual basis had to send out letters telling enquirers that they have been the victim of a hoax.


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« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2005, 12:59:09 AM »
"arab, draw what I speak"

"what troubles this place old man?"

Ibn Fablan wrote about the Rus, not the vikings. But that's where crichton got the idea from. It was good movie I liked it alot. Vikings called home to defend their shrinking kingdom from a cannibal tribe, now there's a story! I imagine the book goes into the historical aspects such as the tremendous civilizing influence on european culture that came from bagdhad, as well as the role the vikings played in shaping western civilization.

There's two kinds of movies, one you see and thing "that was pretty neat", then the next day as you think about it, "man that movie was the suck" (pearl harbor)

And then there are movies like 13th warrior where you think, "that movie was pretty cool", then after you think about it for a day you're thinking "that was actually a good flick". And you watch it again and appreciate it better.

I've been wanting to read eaters of the dead for years.

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« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2005, 01:12:08 AM »
Ya I read the apendixis fatty.
I think that is what turned me off the book.

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« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2005, 05:37:57 AM »
Oh no, I've been rebuked by an intern at IMDb!

Canada sucks.

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« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2005, 07:26:39 AM »
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3) I really liked the way they portrayed Banderas learning the language as he travelled with the Norsemen.   No subtitles to benefit the viewer; we struggled right along with him, trying to figure out what they were talking about.   But as he learned more and more of the language, more of the dialogue was spoken in English - it was a well-done, gradual transition.
 


  Agreed. This was very well done. A refreshing change of pace.

Movie was just on this past weekend.
Not a bad flick. Not a GREAT one. But pretty decent.

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« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2005, 07:29:26 AM »
Yup, that's exactly what resparked my interest.
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« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2005, 08:02:50 AM »
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Banderas was pretty decent in this movie, though not as good as in Interview with a Vampire.


Speaking of Banderas

This is due out in Sept






The Legend of Zorro.

Everyone had their superheros.
while I always liked Batman. Superman and all that
ZORRO
was always my favorite.

Something about Swords and whips I guess LOL
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« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2005, 09:24:10 AM »
I thought it was a good movie.  Good enough to buy the DVD.

I like the humor the vikings had.  Even towards death.....

Overwhelming odds coming down the tunnel and they all know they are gonna die, then one hears thunder and says "aw damn...  it's gonna rain!"  and they all bust out laughing.