Convicted criminals/voting right

[Jay_76]

I gotta ask, though this seems nit-picky:

If-
 

The US consists of 90% immigrants if not more (not sure how big the indigous Indian population is)

are you reminding us that everyone who's NOT american indian is an immigrant? or that 90% of the population of the US are recent immigrants? I'm thinking you mean the first, in which case I think you're drawing a really legalistic distinction that anyone born in the US would disagree with, and with good reason.

Anyhow, that was an aside...

*S* and regards,

Jay.

[StSanta]

Deja, I tried to be precise in my question, and used an example. Reading it, it does seem loaded; however it was not my intention to construct it in a loaded way. Mea culpa.

Jay, I mean the first. Because it has happened in such recent history it is very easy to track. And it is hard to deny that Africans, Europeans, Asians and whatnot congregated to the US once it was discovered.  It's a land of immigrants quite basically.

It's pretty hard to disregard it because it's the very foundation of the USA - it's the source of the incredible diversity.

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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"

"We are the light at the end of your sorry little tunnel." - A. Eldritch

[Jay_76]

Source of diversity, I agree. Recent history, I agree.  Whether its trackable or not, you ask first- or tenth- or twentieth-generation americans what they are, they'll say "Americans".  It was nit-picky of me to begin... *grin* Gonna go back to my rock now.

Enjoying the thread, tho!

Jay.

[Eagler]

Thinking about your original question...

What percentage of convicted criminals were of the voting kind before they were felons? Not counting your white collar, ie bankers, doctors, politicians,etc.. I'd say that percentage is so low as not to worry with them. I'd like to see that energy and those resources placed somewhere it would make a difference, ie education.

Eagler

[TheWobble]

I think if you screw up bad enough to go to jail for more than 2 years (something violent mostly) you shouldent have any say in the socity that you harmed.

[StSanta]

TheWobble, I'm undecided about it; I really don't know. One side of me says that if you've *paid the price* and your dues to society, that's it.

Another side of me says that if you knowlingly go against the rules of society, you yourself can expect to be excluded from certain activities.

I dunno.

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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"

"I don't necessarily agree with everything I think." - A. Eldritch

[TheWobble]

Ya Stsanta i can see the *paid the price* part but I really do not believe the US prison system is good for much more than turning bad people worse, plus with the overcrowding in them now, most of them get out long before they have *paid the price* IMO.