Author Topic: The Case of the Loaded Finger, or... (Read 1145 times)

rpm · « **Reply #45 on:** August 01, 2006, 04:21:41 PM »

In our current political state, sentencing will become less and less controlled by the judicial. What politician is going to vote against a bill for stiffer penalties? "Bob Jones is SOFT ON CRIME!! Bob Jones supports ARMED ROBBERS THAT PREY ON HELPLESS GRANDMOTHERS!!" will flood the TV screen at the next election. It's job security.

Mini D · « **Reply #46 on:** August 01, 2006, 07:18:18 PM »

Serial killers and violent child rapists are not who minimum sentance laws are impacting. My god lazs... are you a victim of propaganda here?

As for repeat offenders... with the 3 strikes rule... the judge's discretion on the first two and the states on the 3rd. That's not that complex. It's significantly different than allowing a judge to review a no-offense record and tie his hands on a sentance. 3 strikes is giving up on someone after trying, it has little to do with not even considering them.

lukster · « **Reply #47 on:** August 01, 2006, 09:20:38 PM »

I'm pretty old and have avoided committing even one felony. If I had committed two and was unhappy with living in prison I think I could avoid committing a third. Is it really that hard?

DiabloTX · « **Reply #48 on:** August 01, 2006, 09:21:34 PM »

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Originally posted by lukster
I'm pretty old and have avoided commiting even one felony. If I had commited two and was unhappy with living in prison I think I could avoid commiting a third. Is it really that hard?

It shouldn't be. But for some people it seems to be a way of life.

Maverick · « **Reply #49 on:** August 01, 2006, 11:06:22 PM »

Those people tend to commit those felonies at the expense of someone else. A good reason they should be kept away from those they like to prey upon.

lazs2 · « **Reply #50 on:** August 02, 2006, 09:17:45 AM »

mini... protest all you want but you are telling us that you want minimum sentances in some cases... so do I.

What is left is... which ones. You haven't given an example of a bad one yet. I have given the three strikes law as a good one.

I would vote for a minimum on child mollesters with no prior conviction. Same for serial killers.

neither of us would vote for 7 years for slapping a woman on the butt.

lazs

PuckIt · « **Reply #51 on:** August 02, 2006, 10:38:02 AM »

ANY Felony at the age of 18 and above = Death

ANY Misdemeanor at the age of 18 and above = Life

Crime in the USA would drop by 90%. (The 10%.. Well the world would still have tards).

Yes larceny of a candy bar is a Misd. That better be one hellova candy bar.

Talk about sleeping with the doors unlocked. I dont think it would be a problem.

PuckIt

Mini D · « **Reply #52 on:** August 02, 2006, 11:51:56 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
mini... protest all you want but you are telling us that you want minimum sentances in some cases... so do I.

What is left is... which ones. You haven't given an example of a bad one yet. I have given the three strikes law as a good one.

I would vote for a minimum on child mollesters with no prior conviction. Same for serial killers.

neither of us would vote for 7 years for slapping a woman on the butt.

lazs

Repeat offense is taking history into account and is the only exception. Everything else no.

I'm not for minimum sentancing on any child molestation case as long as there are no penalties for an ex-spouse pressing false charges. I've not seen any need for minimum sentancing with serial killers. The options are either life in prison or death in those cases. Of course, "innocent by means of insanity" seems to be a going one these days, but minimum sentancing laws don't protect those.

You're for minimum sentancing laws where there is no need or where the charges can be so vague that a vendictive wife could get you 7 years in prison.

I think we have VERY different expectations as to what the government should be requiring.

lazs2 · « **Reply #53 on:** August 02, 2006, 02:35:24 PM »

different views? what do you base that on?

the example I gave was for 3 strikes and that is the only one I have ever voted on... you agree with that one.

What I consider serial killers... multiple killings.. have been released.

I said that a child molester needs a minimum... I would prefer death... but... there had better be DNA evidence... not the word of a spouse or 3 shrinks talking a kid into it. It had better be DNA or better.

lazs