Say NO to the Brewster Buffalo

[Viking]

Say no to Bodhi !!!   No Bodhi in Aces High !!!

[Grendel]

Fighter ace Jussi Huotari: The Brewster was quite nice and pleasant to fly. Everyone usually praised it,it was a gentleman's aircraft. Wide cockpit for instance.

Antti Tani & Jussi Huotari: two aces telling about their experiences with Morane-Saulnier 406s, Me 109s and of course - the Brewster:

http://www.virtualpilots.fi/hist/WW2History-TaniHuotariEnglish.html



Can you rembember which were the ranges used by Brewster pilots, or any examples ?
Jussi Huotari: Nearest in my mind is the case when I had to fire at an angle of 90 degrees. You had to apply plenty of deflection, shoot far ahead of the target. Then only one gun fired but the tracers gave me an indication how to aim. When shooting from an angle of 90 degrees you have to take a lot of deflection.
What was the general range of firing ?
Jussi Huotari: For the Brewster it was about two hundred fifty
Antti Tani: Shooting from a too short range your burst passed the side of the target.

[Shifty]

Originally posted by Grendel
By the way, do not forget that not just US and Finland operated Brewsters... Other users were Belgium, Holland, Great Britain and Australia.

Commonwealth

The Commonwealth squadrons in Asia claimed a 2:1 kill ratio against the Japanese. Three Commonwealth pilots became aces on the Buffalo; the highest scoring of them, Geoff Fisken finished as the highest scoring Commonwealth pilot in the Pacific Theatre.

Netherlands East Indies

The ML-KNIL (Militaire Luchtvaart van het Koninklijk Nederlands-Indisch Leger: Military Aviation of the Royal Netherlands-Indies Army) had ordered 144 Brewster B-339C and 339D models, the former with used engines supplied by the Dutch and the latter with new and more powerful engines that Brewster purchased from Wright. Only 71 had arrived in the Netherlands East Indies by the time war began, and not all were in service. Some served briefly at Singapore before being withdrawn for the defense of Java.

As the Dutch Buffaloes were lighter than the F2A-3 used by the US, they were able to successfully dogfight the Japanese Nakajima Oscar fighter, although it was still out-turned by the Mitsubitshi Zero. Apart from their role as fighters, they were also used as dive bombers against Japanese troopships. Though reinforced by the Commonwealth Buffaloes retreating from Malaya, the Dutch squadrons were unable to stem the superiority of Japanese forces at ground level, and they flew their last mission on 7 March. Altogether 17 Dutch pilots were killed, 30 Buffaloes were shot down, 15 were destroyed on the ground, and several were lost to misadventure. in return, Dutch pilots claimed 55 enemy aircraft destroyed. In a major engagement on 19 February 1942, eight Dutch Brewsters intercepted a formation of about 35 Japanese bombers, which had an escort of about 20 Zeroes. The Dutch pilots destroyed 11 Japanese planes and lost four Buffaloes.

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And what other plane can claim such a beautiful nickname as "Sky Pearl"...

As the Finnish Brewster pilots still affectinally call it "The Pearl of the Northnern Skies"...

Vote sensible. Vote for a great piece of aviation history. Vote for Brewster!

Good point. I know planes like the Buffalo are not going to appeal much to the guys who only fly in the regular arenas. That's understandable, however so many of these older warbirds would give Special Events and the AVA some fantastic tools for different scenarios.

Yes I fly in the regular arenas, but I live for the Special Events.

[Lye-El]

Originally posted by Sincraft
Um, then let the fins make their own game - and host it on their turf, and create a game totally around their war machines?


It's like making a game about American Idol, then having people sing in German?

Have we gone this PC in the US today.  Jesus if socialism isn't enough on our turf, why are we trying to bend it to apply toward 'foreigners'??

*flame away libs!*

Perhaps you can make your own game and host it at your house. Then you can have it your way. Why fly in somebody else's game.

You are just as "foreign" at flying WWII aircraft as is most people in the world. I would venture that the "foreigners" are better at pushing pixel aircraft around the simulated skies than you are.

There are people all over the world who like WWII aircraft. In all walks of life. The reality is that all aircraft weren't American.

If American Idol is your yardstick of all that is great with the world, perhaps you should be watching it.

[teufl]

I think the 239 didnt have as much armor or self sealing fuel tanks, making it much lighter, and the benifits of being lighter.  The F2a being an american use model had all the pre mentioned, and heavyness that goes with that= a lower performance plane overall.  Also I think the model 239 had 30 cal mgs where the F2a had at least 1  50 cal......

[Grendel]

Originally posted by teufl
I think the 239 didnt have as much armor or self sealing fuel tanks, making it much lighter, and the benifits of being lighter.  The F2a being an american use model had all the pre mentioned, and heavyness that goes with that= a lower performance plane overall.  Also I think the model 239 had 30 cal mgs where the F2a had at least 1  50 cal......

Wrong on all counts.
It had pilot armor and other normal armour. Self sealing tanks. Four .50 machineguns. Great visibility and space to take all your luggage in the fuselage from field to field. Everything you a pilot needs ;-)

[Wilbus]

Ahhh yes! Excellent Idea!


NO BODHI!



(just kiddin' of course)

[Shifty]

Originally posted by Sincraft
Um, then let the fins make their own game - and host it on their turf, and create a game totally around their war machines?


It's like making a game about American Idol, then having people sing in German?

Have we gone this PC in the US today.  Jesus if socialism isn't enough on our turf, why are we trying to bend it to apply toward 'foreigners'??

*flame away libs!*

 I'm not liberal, and I'm far from PC. This isn't  Finland vs the USA . This is just people getting a chance to vote for what  aircraft they'd like to see added to the sim. I don't know how you could call the opportunity to vote for something socialism. Plus what you call foreigners, the owner of this sim calls customers.

[teufl]

Not necessarily wrong on all accounts, but yes the Fins added seat armor and changed the 30 caliber to 50.  I was actaully talking about FOB(fresh off the boat)  no matter its gone, maybe next time guys!:aok

[Squire]

BuNcH O Ferigeners! thEy TaKN ovbr my fliHt SIm Lettmm git theR OWN w00T!!!