Author Topic: Re: Why conservatives and also Libertarians despise the GWB presidency (Read 398 times)

TwentyFo · « **on:** May 20, 2008, 06:34:08 PM »

I blame it on the Neoconservative Movement. I think too many Republicans are getting confused about what "true" conservative values are. They are mistaking a conservative ideology for one that is actually far from it. People like Ron Paul are true conservatives. The Regan and Bush (Both Neocons) administrations were cash cows that had reckless spending habits. I hope for our country's sake that the Republican Party finds new leadership.

Getback · « **Reply #1 on:** May 20, 2008, 06:42:42 PM »

Quote from: Hap on May 20, 2008, 06:58:08 AM

I caught myself doing a fair bit of hand wringing about the election. Then I cast my mind back to all the Presidential elections during my life beginning with the 1960 election when I was 3.

I'm banking on that America is more sturdy that whom we elect as commander in chief.

And sure it matters who we elect.

I think once they find how much freedom they have lost or will lose they will wake up.

FrodeMk3 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 20, 2008, 06:57:22 PM »

Quote from: Getback on May 20, 2008, 06:42:42 PM

I think once they find how much freedom they have lost or will lose they will wake up.

They have to put down the playstation controller first.

SteveBailey · « **Reply #3 on:** May 20, 2008, 07:19:03 PM »

Quote from: TwentyFo on May 20, 2008, 06:34:08 PM

I blame it on the Neoconservative Movement. I think too many Republicans are getting confused about what "true" conservative values are. They are mistaking a conservative ideology for one that is actually far from it. People like Ron Paul are true conservatives. The Regan and Bush (Both Neocons) administrations were cash cows that had reckless spending habits. I hope for our country's sake that the Republican Party finds new leadership.

Bush is a long LONG was from being a neo-con. He's not even really a conservative.

Mini D · « **Reply #4 on:** May 20, 2008, 07:26:21 PM »

LOL Toad! Did you just bring up the boston tea party? Damn man... you can't even realize just how lost you are. Do you really think modern times compare? Wow. Missouri must be much worse off than where I live.

Toad · « **Reply #5 on:** May 20, 2008, 08:41:02 PM »

Try to go for the whole post instead of reading the first line or two Mini.

Who's your fave in this election Mini? What issues are near and dear to your heart in this one? How will you use your vote so it isn't wasted?

BTW, Missouri is bad off... but then, I live in Kansas.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #6 on:** May 20, 2008, 08:48:25 PM »

Quote from: Toad on May 20, 2008, 08:41:02 PM

BTW, Missouri is bad off... but then, I live in Kansas.

You know what they have in Kansas? wheat. From a Barney Miller Episode

moot · « **Reply #7 on:** May 20, 2008, 09:27:15 PM »

Quote from: AKIron on May 20, 2008, 03:20:38 PM

As has been said by many, real change or revolution won't happen so long as everyone is reasonably comfortable and well fed. That could change pretty quickly in this country.

Materialy, mentaly.. Of course enough people could be anesthesized to not be able to tell the difference..

Toad · « **Reply #8 on:** May 20, 2008, 09:38:49 PM »

Check Amazon.com; Paul's book The Revolution is #18. Obama's Dreams of My Father is #96. McCain didn't break the top 100.

Paul is #7 on the NY Times best seller list too.

Just started Paul's book.

lazs2 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 21, 2008, 08:34:49 AM »

twentyfo.. for the sake of the country I hope that the democrats wake up and quit trying to turn the country into some half baked ideal of liberal socialism. I do not want to live like the blue coasts want me to live. I will never agree with their radical socialist and anti individualist ideals of the nanny state where every single little missery of anyone is paraded out as an excuse to make a government agency and a new law that makes the lives of thousands.. millions.. less free. The democrats seem to hate individual freedom these days. They seem to think utopia is a workers paradise where it is "from each according to his ability and to each according to his needs" and "the end justifies the means"

lazs

moot · « **Reply #10 on:** May 21, 2008, 08:46:42 AM »

Absolutely.. The billions spent on social programs ought to get back to sensible proportions, so that all that money is put to use.. Instead of milked by couch potatoes and other frauds.

Mr No Name · « **Reply #11 on:** May 21, 2008, 09:07:03 AM »

Wanna know where your money is going?

"The average illegal immigrant family receives an average of $30,000 in governmental benefits! Yet they pay only about $9,000 in taxes per year. That creates a $21,000 shortfall that the American taxpayer has to make up. That's like buying each of the illegal immigrant families a brand new Mustang convertible -- each and every year!" Robert Rector, Ph.D.

We have 30,000,000 illegals in the country now... Do the math... It is coming out of YOUR pocket too. In addition, it forces wages lower, creates a higher demand on housing, keeping them artificially inflated and 30,000,000 use a LOT of gasoline, keeping that demand high.