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Offline PFactorDave

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Re: never have perked ords
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2012, 07:26:53 AM »
I think some perked ords is a great idea, assuming that the perks are consumed regardless of how the sortie ends.  The perk system, as it is now, suffers from it being too easy to earn perks but not enough ways to burn them up.

I would also like a perk exchange rate for converting one type of perk into another at maybe a 5 to 1 rate.

It should be a bigger deal to up a perked plane or tank then it currently is, in my opinion.

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Re: never have perked ords
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2012, 08:56:35 AM »
Perked ord is a better idea.
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Re: never have perked ords
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2012, 10:06:21 AM »
but how would you have a separate ords perk bank and would diff ords give u more or less per target. perk the plane much easier. ords perking system is all risk no reward and lame from it. perks on a plane are saved by landing but ords would need a separate system to work and thus harder to employ.

If ords are perked it would actually be the aircraft that was perked with that loadout so the system wouldn't have to change. Changing perk costs on the same aircraft is already part of Aces High.

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Re: never have perked ords
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2012, 10:28:41 AM »
Perked ord is a better idea.

Agreed... it would be nice to see the smaller bomb loads actually get used.
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Re: never have perked ords
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2012, 01:04:42 PM »
they take a large penalty for taking on that weight
So it takes a bit longer to get to altitude.  Doesn't stop people from using the fighters in lieu of the attack aircraft such as the TBM or A-20.  That said, HTC seems happy with the 1000lbers as standard loadouts.  A perk loadout for P-38s might be the 2000lbers though, or perhaps some field mods could be put in as perk loadout such as that photo of a P-38 with six 500lbers where the single 1000lber is normally carried.
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Re: never have perked ords
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2012, 02:50:28 PM »
Perked so that the P47, P51, P38, and Typhoons dont ALWAYS take the 1000s as a replacement for a bomber.  I highly doubt this was used often.  And I would even guess that it was never used in the case of CV operations.

Actually, 1,000 pound bombs were used frequently in P-38 attack missions.  2,000 and 3,000 pound bomb load outs were rare.

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Re: never have perked ords
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2012, 11:38:40 PM »
You wouldn't have a separate bank.  You would spend bomber perks, fighter perks or vehicle perks depending on the type of unit being used.  It would be up to HTC to decide if your perks would be refunded if you brought the unit back without the perk ordnance.  I bet that is how it would work though, as long as you bring the unit back you get your perks refunded.

How does that make sense...? ..."Up to HTC to refund the perks if one brings the perked ord back" (paraphrased)


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Re: never have perked ords
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2012, 05:57:52 PM »
None refundable perks for exotic ordnance is necessary. The real advantage that can be gained from it's use is the reward. It should not be something regenerated during the rearming pad's regeneration function.

Think about vTard hoards already with free 1000 pounders. How fast will towns and feilds go down if a hoard can show up with "super go boom" perked ord and most of them survive to hold onto the price for the next feild on their list? If the vTards had the perk bank some of the veterens have they would be flying their missions with B29 boxes, Tempests and 262's. As it is their hoards are always late war non-perk uber shows.

What ever gets introduced to this game that grants a tactical advantage over having to develop skill will be leveraged for all it's worth by the same mindset who uses aimbots, cheat codes, and hacks in other online games. Placing a limitation on the worst and most game destabalising of it is the only way to keep this game from turning into a garbage pit and loosing subscriptions.

Most of the arguments about this topic are like the promises teenagers make about driving to their parents. Once you admit you WANT the exotic go boom toys but on your own terms. Your arguments have nothing to do with whats best for everyone who plays the game and it's future.
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Re: never have perked ords
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2012, 06:28:18 PM »
How does that make sense...? ..."Up to HTC to refund the perks if one brings the perked ord back" (paraphrased)


Badly phrased, but meaning that it is up to HTC if they want the system to cost the perks regardless of whether the Lancaster comes back with its Grand Slam or uses it.  They have two ways they could set the system up, 1) The Grand Slam costs, say, 20 perks and they are lost if you do not bring the Grand Slam back with you or 2) Selecting the Grand Slam turns the Lancaster into a 20 perk point bomber (60 for a formation) and if you land it successfully you get your perk points back just as you would with a B-29A right now.

Personally I prefer option 1 for the reasons that bustr gave.
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Re: never have perked ords
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2012, 03:12:44 AM »
I think I would like some motivation to return the aircraft safely so I would prefer your option 2 or at least some mechanism that did not encourage suicidal attacks once there was no perk benefit to returning the aircraft.
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Re: never have perked ords
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2012, 07:21:01 AM »
I think some perked ords is a great idea, assuming that the perks are consumed regardless of how the sortie ends.  The perk system, as it is now, suffers from it being too easy to earn perks but not enough ways to burn them up.

I would also like a perk exchange rate for converting one type of perk into another at maybe a 5 to 1 rate.

It should be a bigger deal to up a perked plane or tank then it currently is, in my opinion.

I would prefer that the perks are not consumed if the pilot lands.  It would result in less suicidal dives to target.  The point being to give the pilot an incentive to land, which is important for gameplay.

It is important because a suicidal pilot with nothing to lose (so to speak)  can use tactics that will totally put a pilot that "wants to live" at a disadvantage.  How many "HO" arguments do we need to prove this theory.

Perked ord's would promote more bomber use, which often requires alt, and escort, and maybe a mission
     That would likely give more advance warning of an impending attack  (the hordez isssue)
Perked ords would add more diversity in plane selection
     WE may see more missions that arnt the P47-D40 but something else!!
It would encourage a pilot to live past his mission goals
     How often do we see a plane screaming in to hit a field target, but and landing does not matter.  CV attacks are the worst, It's often;  drop my 2 1000lb's bombs on target with zero hope of pulling up.  Thats just silly.

I think the hardest part of a perkd ords, is to make it easy for a pilot to select...currently our planes "remember" how we set them up


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Re: never have perked ords
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2012, 05:48:39 PM »
actually i would just give 1000 to whoever teaches me how to land the spit wheels down   :bhead

Line up on the runway, cut the engine, close your eyes, and pray.

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