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Offline swoose

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Re: Where are all the "BIG WEEK" Bomber Crews?
« Reply #45 on: April 28, 2017, 09:20:45 PM »
HB count me in flying a 17. Looking forward to it
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Re: Where are all the "BIG WEEK" Bomber Crews?
« Reply #46 on: April 28, 2017, 09:52:42 PM »
HB count me in flying a 17. Looking forward to it
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Re: Where are all the "BIG WEEK" Bomber Crews?
« Reply #47 on: April 29, 2017, 02:40:20 AM »
Register fast...1 spot left.

Jordi took the last one, but . . .

1.  There is a chance his computer setup won't handle AH3, in which case he will unregister.

2.  If we get more bomber pilots, I will see if we can broker a deal for more B-17's and more 190's.

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Re: Where are all the "BIG WEEK" Bomber Crews?
« Reply #48 on: April 29, 2017, 04:50:24 AM »
Jordi took the last one, but . . .

1.  There is a chance his computer setup won't handle AH3, in which case he will unregister.

2.  If we get more bomber pilots, I will see if we can broker a deal for more B-17's and more 190's.

More 190A8's PWEASE!!!!! :devil :devil :devil :cheers: :salute :salute :salute
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Re: Where are all the "BIG WEEK" Bomber Crews?
« Reply #49 on: April 29, 2017, 12:47:08 PM »
More 190A8's PWEASE!!!!! :devil :devil :devil :cheers: :salute :salute :salute

Mr. Dragon,
That is the game plan from what I understand.
Numbers have been in the potty for a long time, all of a sudden there are lots of people who actually are requesting bombers. Who would have thought that?
Side CO's discussing more 190's for more bombers. Win Win for everyone. (Leave the lead bomber alone, it may be the bomber CO.)  :D
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Re: Where are all the "BIG WEEK" Bomber Crews?
« Reply #50 on: May 03, 2017, 05:01:03 PM »
Mr. Dragon,
That is the game plan from what I understand.
Numbers have been in the potty for a long time, all of a sudden there are lots of people who actually are requesting bombers. Who would have thought that?
Side CO's discussing more 190's for more bombers. Win Win for everyone. (Leave the lead bomber alone, it may be the bomber CO.)  :D

Hold the phone.  Don't forget more escorts if we are increasing numbers.  I can fill more 38 seats :)
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Re: Where are all the "BIG WEEK" Bomber Crews?
« Reply #51 on: May 03, 2017, 05:58:22 PM »
I can fill more 38 seats :)

In the P-38, don't you have to fill more seats?


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Re: Where are all the "BIG WEEK" Bomber Crews?
« Reply #52 on: May 03, 2017, 10:26:05 PM »
Trading more bombers for more LW fighters can't happen without additional escort added as well.  You know as well as I Brooke how it will play out, and throwing the fighter v fighter numbers even more off will just lead to less and less bombers each frame.
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Re: Where are all the "BIG WEEK" Bomber Crews?
« Reply #53 on: May 04, 2017, 04:03:11 PM »
Trading more bombers for . . .

I think we are OK because of the following.

We added 2 B-17 formations and 1 FW 190 aircraft.

First is that +/- one axis fighter isn't going to alter the outcome of a scenario.  Even natural variability in staffing frame to frame is statistically much greater than +/- 1 aircraft.

Second, historically, fighter:fighter BOG was 0.82, DGS was 0.84, DGSII was 0.8.  We are at 0.8 -- in line with those.

Third, define "excess fighters" = (number of enemy fighters) - (number of allied fighters).  If every allied fighter tied up an axis fighter, excess fighters is how many would be left over to go after bombers -- it is one metric among several I look at in balance for a design.  Historically, (excess fighters)/(bomber formations) was 0.59 for BOG, 0.57 for DGS, and 0.74 for DGSII.  We are currently at 0.56 -- in line with BOG and DGS, and significantly lower than DGSII.

In summary, +/- one aircraft is not of great significance to outcome, and both fighters:fighters and (excess fighters):bombers are in line with past 8th AF scenarios.

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Re: Where are all the "BIG WEEK" Bomber Crews?
« Reply #54 on: May 04, 2017, 04:08:12 PM »
To get things back to what this particular topic is about -- Where are all the "BIG WEEK" Bomber Crews? . . .

The answer is:

Completely filling the bomber spots.

Well done, bomber guys!  :aok

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Re: Where are all the "BIG WEEK" Bomber Crews?
« Reply #55 on: May 04, 2017, 04:31:06 PM »
Now we need fighter guys to get moving on filling our fighters.

Each side has plenty of fighters left to fill.