Author Topic: I am trying to decide how to control my planes in the future. (Read 565 times)

Eagler · « **Reply #30 on:** October 02, 2002, 07:48:24 AM »

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Originally posted by Sixpence
Let me ask this, I have a twist joystick for rudder. If I buy a set of pedals,will they work? And can I disable the twist?

yes

deSelys · « **Reply #31 on:** October 02, 2002, 10:44:25 AM »

My experience:

Cougar=bad:

- impossible to install correctly, Win98SE keeps losing the stick (while playing, downloading a config, restarting the device, flashing the firmware...)
- horrid center play coupled with high stick forces: absolutely inaccurate

Some good points though:

- state-of-the art programming: you can almost do anything you want with it
- axes can be analog AND digital at the same time
- rotary axes are neat....for WWIIOnline, or another sim, because AH can't use them digitally (think vator trim on a rotary knob).

CH Fighterstick and Pro Throttle=good:

- very easy to install and configure: I had it set up in one hour.
- really accurate
- drivers stability seems rock solid

Some 'weaknesses':

- less programming fancy functions
- you need 3 free USB ports for a whole set (stick, throttle + pedals) instead of 1 for the Cougar (if your pedals are gameport)

My advice: if you don't have too much free time and you don't want to have to fiddle with the inners of your stick: don't go Cougar. CH is less advanced but much more accurate and stable out-of-the-box.

deSelys · « **Reply #32 on:** October 02, 2002, 10:50:53 AM »

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Originally posted by Charge
I recommend loosening the Cougar's springs before the center horizontal steel axle wears off too much of the surrounding soft metal.

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This is the biggest issue with the Cougar IMHO: The way axles are connected is just plain poor engineering, and I would like to see how much wear you'll get after 2-3 years of use...

LoneStarBuckeye · « **Reply #33 on:** October 02, 2002, 10:52:41 AM »

Sixpence:

Yes, if you buy a set of rudder pedals, they will work, at least in AH. In AH, you can map any analog control axis that Windows recognizes to any analog control axis. If, for instance, you plug in a set of CH Pro Pedals USB, you can go to AH's joystick set-up, and map the rudder control to your Pro Pedals' rudder axis, instead of your stick's twist axis. While you're at it, you can also map AH's left and right wheel brake controls to the Pro Pedals' toe brakes -- very nice.

I used to have a Logitech Wingman or some such joystick that had a twisty handle. I found it incredibly annoying, and, if I recall correctly, there was a set screw that I tightened to prevent the handle from twisting.

- JNOV

Flossy · « **Reply #34 on:** October 02, 2002, 01:03:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Sixpence
It appears to me the guys who came up with the cougar and set the price do not have wives:(

Not always....

Zeb and I both have a Cougar following several years of flying with all CH setups. We have kept our CH Pro-Pedals, which plug into the back of the joystick, and Zeb has set his up for toe-brakes too. I have never had a problem with the stiffness of the joystick, it just feels very smooth and positive. The programming can be as simple or as complicated as you wish, with quite a few profiles already set up if you'd rather use somebody else's. Zeb is also a beta tester for the software, which is continually being updated. IMO, you can't go wrong with the Cougar!

Revvin · « **Reply #35 on:** October 02, 2002, 01:16:57 PM »

Get a Cougar and you will never look back, a great stick with programmability that surpasses anything on the market. If you buy one then download the latest drivers and update the stick to the latest firmware. I have a Cougar using both CH USB Pro Pedals and TM Elites and both work well. If you're buying for just AH and newer sims that support more than one controller input then go for the CH USB pedals, if you want to play older stuff like Falcon4 and Flanker 2 then get the TM Elites as they plug directly into the Cougar and the whole rig get's seen as one device.

Sixpence · « **Reply #36 on:** October 02, 2002, 02:03:39 PM »

Thanx 4 the replies:D

qts · « **Reply #37 on:** October 02, 2002, 02:44:40 PM »

My Cougar is worth every penny I paid for it.

lasse · « **Reply #38 on:** October 02, 2002, 06:31:01 PM »

Not accurate counting, but I get the feel that it is 75% for and 25% against The cougar.

I specially liked the replys from Kirin and Flossy

, looks like I have to do some investing in hardware pretty soon

Anyone have links to any tests done of the cougar ?

Lasse

deSelys · « **Reply #39 on:** October 03, 2002, 12:58:51 AM »

Testings done by users...

Cougar's world

lasse · « **Reply #40 on:** October 03, 2002, 01:40:06 AM »

When reading different posts at the Cougar`s world, I get the feeling that there is lots of owners that get problems with it, and they have to fix or modify their sticks themselves....

Paying 300$ for a Hotas set, I expect 100% realibility, doesent look like it is like that over there........worried now.........hmmm.....

(And there are rumors that TM is laying of lots of people, including the Cougar team, and in that process stopping further developement of additional harware and software) But that is rumors.....

Lasse