Originally posted by brady
If you had just the Kate and the VAl aganst the SBD, you would have a problem,
Thanks for the Kates, upped one, popped a VH base, landed it--that plane handles so sweetly.
Your argument is absolute silliness Brady, you are simply being obtuse.
There is no harm in trying this set without the Ki-67. Hell, I would let the Allies keep the Boston and Fly Jap without the Ki-67. It is a fighter sweep machine--you fly over bases and kill the fighters, it is the most out of place plane I've seen in any scenario. When you get to Mid War AC, groovy, add it but not earlier. I have flown it, it absolutely rules allied fighters when they are contending with zero tactics.
What you are saying is "if the planets align and we only fly SBDs and the zero pilots are morons" that all will be lost and then woe unto the republic. Tell you what. You get 20 guys, put them in SBDs, I'll get 20, we'll take zekes. You'll get bored trying to catch or kill us, you'll be tired of being killed by guys underneath you and you'll start flying P-40s. The days when guys had CT goobers that had never seen an SBD stall over them a couple K higher and would climb to them in zekes are few and far between--most guys now know better. If they don't, I reckon they will learn early enough.
In this setup few bases have changed hands. Clearly this is not an issue to EVERYONE posting, your stubbornness though is.
You are simply being stubborn dude, give it a TRY you have NOTHING to lose.
The match-up that is intriguing in this setup is the Zero vs. P-40/Hurricane combo--everything else is a sideshow and the Ki-67 is the single most unbalancing factor in that match-up. That is to say, you are talking about balance while the greatest element contributing to any unbalance is being left in. Worrying about a single SBD is silly, it can kill a zeke--but not 6-9 of them. A smart guy can sweep a field of enemy fighters by dragging them up to him, in his Ki-67---No SBD will ever accomplish anything remotely like that. You say "It takes two . . ." well it takes a moron in a Zeke to climb slowly up the 6 of an SBD also man, the Ki-67 is tooooooooo muuuuuuuuuch plaaaaaaaaane. Like I say, when you get Wildcats, Hellcats, Corsairs, OK. Even P-40Es because they can shred a Ki-67 with their firepower and have some pursuit speed, but the poor B model just gets blasted to hell and Hurricanes are cat chow for the Ki-67. This weekend I went AFK, came back and a Hurri was trying to shoot down my formation. He had one plane smoking so I got in the tail and sent him to hell with one stream of fireat about 450--his guns are not terribly effective at that range you know. I did not even use the 5" twin mount naval gun on top, that would have been pointlessly cruel.
Oh, if guys want to take a base that badly (the 67 is crappy for that role) you can coordinate ground and air attacks and do it in about 3-5 minutes using single engine bombers, LVTs with the 75 Howie and M8s/M3s.
Sakai
(aka MeanBobMean)
