Friday The 28th of Nov. BoF

[brady]

Shane Tanks were Not as easly destroyed from the Air in BoF as you might think, for the most  part they had the same top armor as many of the later war tanks did (thickness wise)and as we all know in AH Strafing tanks dead is well over done and for the most part compleatly unrealistic, and in this time frame as  almost compleatly imposable as any other.



Some Panzer II models had 14.5mm top plate.

Panzer 38(t) E & F had 15mm turet top plate

Panzer IIIF Hull top16mm, Turet top 12mm, Superstructure top 17mm.

Panzer IVH Turet top 15mm, Superstructure 12mm, Hull 10mm.


Suma: Hull top 20mm, 28-30mm Turet top.

[Toad]

Again, my comment is not directed solely towards this set-up.

However, the idea that the 110 was highly competitive against BoB single-seat fighters isn't usually touted in the documentation/history of that time.

And again, you have the LW commanders deciding to use 109's to escort the dreaded uber 110's.

[Batz]

The Bf110 was conceived as a long range escort fighter equally able to undertake defensive or offensive tasks. This high-performance, heavily-armed fighter first entered service in 1939 and was able to take part in the Polish campaign where it performed well.

The heavy long range fighter concept was not really put to the test during the opening months of the war but events in the Battle of Britain proved it to be a mistake. Although a highly effective fighter the Messerschmitt Bf 110 was misused as an escort fighter on daylight bomber missions which resulted in huge losses. Operating well below its top speed it proved unable to fight on equal terms with the more agile British single seat Hurricane and Spitfire fighters.

That's from the RAF museum website. Are they liars?

The 110 was ordered to fly close escort. This meant that for the most part it was slower and lower then the attackers. From this position the more maneuverable hurris and spits had all the advantage.

The 109s "escorting" the 110s took position in front to the flanks and rear just like they would when 109s were tasked with close escort. Even the 109s when ordered to stay with the bombers got mauled for the same reason as the 110s.

I was axis co the AH BoB scenario and the 110s had a higher k/d then any other fighter. They weren't locked to escort and were able to operate from it's strength.

[Toad]

Point of view, I suppose.

The heavy long range fighter concept was not really put to the test during the opening months of the war but events in the Battle of Britain proved it to be a mistake.

It was so bloody good that every nation scrambled to build and employ a heavy twin fighter after they saw what it could do.