Whadya y'all make of this? 'Explosive' ammo?

[Fishu]

Just remember that if you're issued with such bullets, you may also expect your enemy to do the same.

[Animal]

I dont think our enemies would think twice about using such ammo, if they had access to it.

[Fishu]

Originally posted by Animal
I dont think our enemies would think twice about using such ammo, if they had access to it.

They could easily make dum-dums and prolly get some explosive bullets..

[FUNKED1]

Originally posted by Fishu
They could easily make dum-dums and prolly get some explosive bullets..

I'm sure they are delaying doing so for humanitarian reasons.  

[miko2d]

RTR: I always thought  it was better to wound than kill.

 Modern infantry combat (for which the weapons and ammo in question are designed) happens at rather short distances - below 300 yards and often below 50 yards.
 The 5.56 bullet that does not desintregrate leaves a neat clean hole which usually closes due to natural elasticity of the tissue.

 Unless a vital nerve center or joint is hit, even a mortal wound may not be severe enough to disable the victim quickly and prevent him from hurting you.
 If the enemy is under influence of alcohol, drugs or even under adrenaline rush, he/she may not even notice being hit for a considerable (in combat) time.

 There is an instructive description of using AP ammo from a short-barreled variant of M16 in "The Black Hawk Down" by Mark Bowden. Somalis hit with multiple rounds just ignored them for a while.

 miko

[Makarov9]

This site has a video talking about the new rounds. In the video a hunk of roast just explodes when hit by one of these rounds.

http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/bullets/

[Animal]

Originally posted by miko2d


 There is an instructive description of using AP ammo from a short-barreled variant of M16 in "The Black Hawk Down" by Mark Bowden. Somalis hit with multiple rounds just ignored them for a while.

 miko

Yeah, I remember that part of the book.
Soldiers described it as if the bullets just went thru the somalies, and they just kept fighting. Thats why some deltas used M14 rifles.

[Octavius]

Thanks makarov!  Thats exactly the explanation I was looking for.

[Fishu]

Originally posted by FUNKED1
I'm sure they are delaying doing so for humanitarian reasons.  

Must have something to do with typical ammo being the cheapest and dum-dums having rather poor penetration capability (plus who would want to do dum-dums worth a thousand rounds)

[miko2d]

AK-74 5.45x39 round tumbles even more readily than 5.56x45 round - due to the air-filled tip, that shifts the CG even further back and allows the core to move after the impact - but it does not fragment due to low energy and strong jacket (copper-washed steel often used instead of expensive copper).

 A hit to the extremity is likely to be more destructive because the bullet yaws/tumbles within as little as 1-2 inches and may change direction unpredictably.
 A hit to the body would be less devastating compared to the NATO round. It will leave a long narrow twisting hole where a 5.56 round would leave half a gallon of shredded tissue - in chich case blood vessels are more likely to be hit and internal bleeding more difficult to stop.

 The added accuracy of AK-47 compared to AK-47 is mostly due to  much lower recoil. It actually allows tight grouping with auto fire burst.

 miko

[Mathman]

Originally posted by Animal
I dont think our enemies would think twice about using such ammo, if they had access to it.

Peurto Rico has a lot of enemies?  If so, I hope you get Milko to build you some prettythang-kicking bullets to kill them!:aok