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Offline lazs2

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« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2004, 10:52:50 AM »
curval... I would contend that you do indeed have very strong feelings on gun rights... even the newest lurker will have noted that you respond to every gun thread even tho they pertain only to the U.S. in most cases.

How you arrived at your opinions is your bussiness but... If you have a book that sustantiates your viewpoint I would be glad to hear about it... Every anti gun rights book I have ever seen is rife with inaccuracies and outright lies that a child could disprove.   Perhaps you know of a reputable one?

If, on the other hand... you are forming your opinions with no basis of fact or research then it seems odd that you would participate in the conversations.  

I am pointing you to an author that is the best at the pro gun rights academics.

If you wish to make informed statements on the board about guns in the U.S. then you would need to read his books in order to balance out all the other anti rights things that are a part of normal liberal journalism.

fact is.. his book is out there and it is solid research by a respected economist who is very careful with data... no matter what conclussions you draw from his data you will have to admit that no one else has ever amassed so much and so carefully in one spot.  

His latest book is much less dry and easy to read.

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« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2004, 11:22:07 AM »
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curval... I would contend that you do indeed have very strong feelings on gun rights... even the newest lurker will have noted that you respond to every gun thread even tho they pertain only to the U.S. in most cases.

Untrue statement of fact there lazs.  Currently there are three threads on this page devoted to guns, this one of yours, another you posted on about receiving a Russian gun, and another one posted by Ripsnort about Austrailian gun laws.  I have only replied to one in three.

How you arrived at your opinions is your bussiness but... If you have a book that sustantiates your viewpoint I would be glad to hear about it... Every anti gun rights book I have ever seen is rife with inaccuracies and outright lies that a child could disprove.   Perhaps you know of a reputable one?

I base my opinions on personal experience.  Guns were legal here..now they aren't.  (since 1971)  This would give me a better perspective than yourself in some ways.  I don't read books on gun control.

If, on the other hand... you are forming your opinions with no basis of fact or research then it seems odd that you would participate in the conversations.  

See above.

I am pointing you to an author that is the best at the pro gun rights academics.

Okay...but I don't read books on the subject.

If you wish to make informed statements on the board about guns in the U.S. then you would need to read his books in order to balance out all the other anti rights things that are a part of normal liberal journalism.

I didn't know I needed to qualify by reading your recommended books to have an opinion.  

fact is.. his book is out there and it is solid research by a respected economist who is very careful with data... no matter what conclussions you draw from his data you will have to admit that no one else has ever amassed so much and so carefully in one spot.  

His latest book is much less dry and easy to read.


There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

Data is always coalated into statistics.  They, in turn, need to be interpreted.  

I'm not saying it is wrong.  It just seems to me that you are reading the same interpretations over and over again.  That is all I am saying.

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« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2004, 10:09:26 AM »
curval... fair enough.   you don't respond to every gun thread.. not yet anyway... I can't recall of one that closed tho that you didn't participate in at some point... the examples you gave are threads that are still open and current.   I belive you did respond to the last thread on commie guns tho?  Maybe not.

you respond to a lot of em.   You claim that you know enough to respond to U.S. gun threads because.... because you have never read anthing on the subject but that guns were legal on your tiny little island at one time and now they aren't and because of that the daily wholesale slaughter has ended?   no one is ever assaulted or killed anymore?     Homicide has dropped how much?

I am pointing you to books that will give you the data and how and why the data has been collected.. the first book was not even meant for publication it was for academics both are highly footnoted.

Read the reviews at least by the detractors and then tell me who is playing with the data.   It is a very truthful and straighforward study.

I still contend that for you to coment so much on gun rights... especially gun rights in the U.S. without any information at all to back you up is ludicrous.

How do I argue with someone who says "I know they are evil... it is obvious.. I don't need to research it at all but I will continue to offer my opinion"??

If you at least offered up a book that took your stance we would have a place to start.  

If you are going to post in gun rights threads.... take a few hours to read the best and most complete work available... or... waste hundreds of hours reading the anti gun rights books only to realize how badly researched and biased they are.

oh... and the data is new in this book and studies somethoing different from the last... this book focuses on the media.   Some statistics and data from the last book are presented and some are updated in the same careful way... think about... every bedwetter around is gunning for the guy... if he makes ONE mistake he will be the top news story on CNN.

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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2004, 10:17:58 AM »
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they are all gay. Which normal, adult man would like to chase a stupid ball for a living?


same type that would do it for free.
Like golfers

No sport...err I mean activity is more Gay then Golf
Cept maybe soccer:)
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« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2004, 10:26:13 AM »
playing sports seems ok.... watching them is gay tho.

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