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Offline Mini D

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« Reply #195 on: October 10, 2004, 11:06:02 AM »
If this had been an athlete, people would have been screaming for a maximum sentance.  It's fun to hate some and make others into martyrs.

The county is solely responsible for the care of its inmates.  A civil trial will bare this out quite clearly.   Weather someone is sentanced for 10 days or 1 year, the county is obligated to care for them.  If the proper medical support is not available at a jail, then the inmates are kept at a hospital.  This is the decision of the county corrections office, not the judge.

The judge looked at someone who was arrested along with everyone else in a vehicle and saw complete unrepentance and dismissal and sentanced them to 10 DAYS IN JAIL.  Yes.. excessive.  Yah.. sure... responsible.  Yeppers... it's all the judge's fault.

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« Reply #196 on: October 10, 2004, 11:20:00 AM »
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If this had been an athlete, people would have been screaming for a maximum sentance.  It's fun to hate some and make others into martyrs.

The county is solely responsible for the care of its inmates.  A civil trial will bare this out quite clearly.   Weather someone is sentanced for 10 days or 1 year, the county is obligated to care for them.  If the proper medical support is not available at a jail, then the inmates are kept at a hospital.  This is the decision of the county corrections office, not the judge.

The judge looked at someone who was arrested along with everyone else in a vehicle and saw complete unrepentance and dismissal and sentanced them to 10 DAYS IN JAIL.  Yes.. excessive.  Yah.. sure... responsible.  Yeppers... it's all the judge's fault.


The disabled inmate died in custody because the judge decided to make an example of a quadriplegic guilty of a misdemeanor because she suspected the tonguegun was his. Yep ... judge Judy was just doing her duty.

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« Reply #197 on: October 10, 2004, 11:39:18 AM »
Decided to "make an example" of a quadrapolegic?  Now... just where are you getting that.  It seems to me the only people making an example of him are those screaming for the judge's robes.

Do you know what sentance everyone else riding in the car got?  Do you even care?

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« Reply #198 on: October 10, 2004, 12:16:38 PM »
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Decided to "make an example" of a quadrapolegic?  Now... just where are you getting that.  It seems to me the only people making an example of him are those screaming for the judge's robes.

Do you know what sentance everyone else riding in the car got?  Do you even care?


(thanks for bringing some kind of intelligent argument to your side.)

it doesnt matter what the other guys in the car got, they presumably got what they deserved, this quad got death for smoking some dope for medical purposes. yes that is illegal, and yes he should have got punished. but punishment should fit the crime and the criminal.

the make an example comes from the excessive sentence for a first time misdemeanor, which the guy would not have got, had the gun not been in the car.

""Mr. Magbie, I'm not giving you straight probation," the judge said, according to a transcript of the Sept. 20 proceedings. "Although you did not plead guilty to having this gun, it is just unacceptable to be riding around in a car with a loaded gun in this city."


"Even the Correctional Treatment Facility, a jail annex that houses many inmates with medical or security needs, would not have been able to readily care for a prisoner such as Magbie, Philip Fornaci, executive director of the D.C. Prisoners' Legal Services Project, said yesterday.

"I certainly would not say they killed him or any conclusion like that," Fornaci said. "But it certainly seems likely that he wouldn't have died if he hadn't gone to jail.""

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« Reply #199 on: October 10, 2004, 12:26:44 PM »
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it doesnt matter what the other guys in the car got, they presumably got what they deserved, this quad got death for smoking some dope for medical purposes.


No, he didn't.  He got 10 days in jail.  It doesn't matter how many different ways you try to spin it, the facts are the facts.

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"I certainly would not say they killed him or any conclusion like that," Fornaci said. "But it certainly seems likely that he wouldn't have died if he hadn't gone to jail.""


Let's take it a step further back.

"He wouldn't have gone to jail if he hadn't broken the law".

It's not like the judge was pulling people randomly off the street and putting them in jail.

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« Reply #200 on: October 10, 2004, 12:30:52 PM »
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Decided to "make an example" of a quadrapolegic?  Now... just where are you getting that.  It seems to me the only people making an example of him are those screaming for the judge's robes.

Do you know what sentance everyone else riding in the car got?  Do you even care?


Are you clueless about the term "extenuating circumstances" as well? Ten days in the pokie isn't a death sentence to whoever else was in the car. You don't really understand that, do you? :D

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« Reply #201 on: October 10, 2004, 12:36:08 PM »
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No, he didn't.  He got 10 days in jail.  It doesn't matter how many different ways you try to spin it, the facts are the facts.

 

Let's take it a step further back.

"He wouldn't have gone to jail if he hadn't broken the law".

It's not like the judge was pulling people randomly off the street and putting them in jail.


I knew you couldn't leave and walk away. Not so much because you think you're right ... but because you can't stand being wrong. You want so badly to pound your belief into other's heads. It doesn't work that way. You have to actually try a different approach. One that merits a concession from the other side. Unless ... you're just in it for the attention, mate. ;)