Gonzales has resigned

[lasersailor184]

Originally posted by Stringer
This is Karl Rove politics coming back to bite the GOP......

It's nothing more then the growing rift between Democrats and Republicans.  There will be a point where it all comes crashing down within the next 10 years.  Americans can't go for too long without a revolution.

[crockett]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
It's nothing more then the growing rift between Democrats and Republicans.  There will be a point where it all comes crashing down within the next 10 years.  Americans can't go for too long without a revolution.

You righties are the only one's I ever hear say that. You guys really should do more thinking and quit playing with guns. You might shoot your self in the foot one day.

[bj229r]

Originally posted by Stringer
This is Karl Rove politics coming back to bite the GOP......

Ok...how are Karl Rove and (the late) Lee Atwater different from James Carville and Paul Begala? All were the best at what they do, yet Rove and Atwater were damned by the media, whereas Carville and Begala were HIRED by the same media....aside from their political points of view, how are these guys different?

[JB88]

they didn't stay on as whitehouse staff.   rove went beyond strategist and into policy making.  different animal.

[lasersailor184]

Originally posted by crockett
You righties are the only one's I ever hear say that. You guys really should do more thinking and quit playing with guns. You might shoot your self in the foot one day.

You lefties stop trying to pull bull**** like you did with Gonzales or foist socialism on us and we wouldn't be considering it.

[JB88]

and don't even get me started on those pansy middle of the road, fence-sitting reason-preaching moderates!!!!

[lazs2]

so crocket...  You don't believe in the right to keep and bear arms?

lazs

[midnight Target]

Oh for crying out loud.... is there nothing you can't twist into a gun thread?

[Tiger]

Originally posted by jhookt


and as far as Gonzalez goes, wrongful termination of employment is against the law. .

US Attorney's serve at the pleasure of the president.  There is no contract, there is no nderstood timeframe of appointment.  You serve until the President decides he wants to replace you.  And he can do so for any or absolutely no reason whatsoever and guess what... that is NOT wrongful termination.  

In the State of South Carolina (I know the laws here from a recent HR meeting) I can fire you for any reason I feel like with the exception of "discrimination based of race, sex, gender, ethnicity, or disability".

You wear a Cowboys hat and the boss is a Redskins fan, he can fire you if he feels like it and there is not a single thing you can do about it.

[midnight Target]

So it is perfectly OK with all of you to fire attorneys who are doing a good job but prosecuting people from the wrong political party? I keep hearing how it wasn't illegal, I'm not sure of the law in this case, but it is most certainly wrong.


This guy says it much better...

Washington University Law professor Sam Buell worked as a federal prosecutor for 10 years and prosecuted the Enron case. He says the administration has the right to fire U.S. attorneys at any time for any reason, but this scandal risks doing long-term damage to prosecutors' reputation for independence.

"They need to be able to say to judges, to juries, to the public, 'We follow the evidence where it leads us. We apply the law. Our decisions are not political,'" Buell said. "And that makes them more effective. So while the administration might gain something politically from doing this, it loses something in terms of its ability to accomplish the Department of Justice's mission."

[JBA]

Originally posted by jhookt
so leaking classified information to the press isn't illegal?

for the record,

for one he didn't leak the information, it was Richard Armitage

second Plame was not out of the country for five or more years or working undercover in a foreign land which makes her a nobody not a COVERT
operative.

next?

[crockett]

So I guess this is why he likely stepped down..

He was about to be investigated again..too bad for him stepping down isn't going to stop it..

forum screws up the link.. copy and paste.. (delete the space in the url.. forum keeps adding a space @ /gonzales

news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070830/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/gonzales_investigation;_ylt=AsPbur6I0APhcnaWWy21Days0NUE

[bj229r]

They are investigating in hopes of finding a crime---if they haven't found one yet, it's not likely they're going to

[crockett]

Originally posted by bj229r
They are investigating in hopes of finding a crime---if they haven't found one yet, it's not likely they're going to

They are investigating to see if he lied while under oath and if he violated federal law by hiring and firing DOJ's with politics as the reason. Seems to be enough people claiming this was a factor. So I'm sure you can understand the need to hold our laws in reguards to our justice system to high standards.

[bj229r]

....and if he violated federal law by hiring and firing DOJ's with politics as the reason. Seems to be enough people claiming this was a factor.....

It's been MONTHS, and  all the media and all the king's men haven't found ONE case where the firing of a DA was instrumental in squashing a Bush ally's troubles. All the Daily Kos crowd, ALL the Media Matters crowd, ALL the Democratic Underground crowd, and the many others, have found squat---if politics was the reason, one of the eight fired lawyers certainly would have provided the evidence, and we'd be reading about it in the New York Times every day, as well as hearing about it via Keith Olberman, Chris Matthews, perky Katie Couric, ad nauseum. THOSE are the Seems to be enough people claiming this was a factor folks...and all they really have is the incompetence of Gonzales in front of a microphone....if that makes em happy, go for it