Border Kidnappings

[Xargos]

40K isn't enough for the risks you take.  Plus the fact the U.S. Government won't back you up when something happens.

[Jappa52]

It’s not.  I’ve spent some time at the border camping, hunting, fishing and such.  Even though we were going for only a few days we packed for a week, extra spare tires, water, first aid kits, everything.  Its hard country and you never know what can happen.  Throw in a few hostiles wielding guns and it gets ugly.  Personally I could take the environment and the isolation but not being 100% sure if your going to be backed by your government if things go sour is the kicker for me.

[rogwar]

Here's a recent article on bribing US Border agents...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080715/wl_nm/usa_mexico_drugs_dc

also as part of that article....

"In one case showing the breadth of the problem, two California-based employees of Wackenhut, a contractor that transports detained illegal immigrants, were charged last month with freeing them for $2,500 each."

Wackenhut....wonder what they do there for fun in the off hours?

[Xargos]

I grew up on the edge of the Sahara.  If you had no clothing or water, you'd be dead by noon.  I've spent the last 30 years in swampland however, and don't think I could get use to the desert again.

[Jappa52]

It’s not that bad on the Texas border but if you didn’t know anything about the area and basic survival you would not be in good shape.  Imagine growing up in Dallas and being transported to the border during the heat of the day to see what is like.  Then some recruiter saying with arms wide…. And all this can be yours for 40 grand a year!!! Lol no thanks mister.

Wackenhut....wonder what they do there for fun in the off hours?

Last big story I heard about corruption was the Marfa sheriff who got caught with a squad car and a 2 horse full of dope.  He's still in jail I think.

[crockett]

It’s not.  I’ve spent some time at the border camping, hunting, fishing and such.  Even though we were going for only a few days we packed for a week, extra spare tires, water, first aid kits, everything.  Its hard country and you never know what can happen.  Throw in a few hostiles wielding guns and it gets ugly.  Personally I could take the environment and the isolation but not being 100% sure if your going to be backed by your government if things go sour is the kicker for me.

Just carry a shovel and bury the ones you have to shoot.. No problems that way.

btw I don't see how the risk of dealing with the boarder crossers is any different than that of a normal policeman dealing with criminals. Granted the work place might be a bit though, but not likely much wore than being a cop in a slum city. Hell I'd do it, if I needed a job and lived close to our boarder.

[Xargos]

Some Mexican military forces, which were trained by the US, are now working for the drug lords.  They have been coming across the border to protect the drug trade.  Do you think you would stand a chance against professionally trained soldiers with the EQ the Border Patrol provides?  And if you are killed, the US will not ask Mexico to charge the persons for your murder.  Mexico just released a guy who murdered a Border Patrol Agent and the US has not protested.

Glenn Beck has had the former head of the Border Patrol on his program several times.  You may want to watch some of those interviews before joining.  He has basically said, without saying, the State Department has been protecting the drug trade.   

P.S.  Without drugs the US could not have it's War on Drugs.

[Jappa52]

btw I don't see how the risk of dealing with the boarder crossers is any different than that of a normal policeman dealing with criminals. Granted the work place might be a bit though, but not likely much wore than being a cop in a slum city. Hell I'd do it, if I needed a job and lived close to our boarder.

Different… ok for one thing Environment-  poisonous snakes, scorpions, cacti, sentry plants, cats claw, ocotillo, 100+ degree weather,  no running water, constant flat tires because of rocky terrain, no tow truck or AAA, no cell service, backup is hours away (no SWAT),town is hours away, toilet is many miles away, hospital is hours away, ISOLATION, on top of that you have to figure they know your routes, they know your name, where you live and where your family sleeps …. Then you add military (some cases American trained) hostiles with state o’ art weaponry escorting drugs across who have no qualms about shooting your arse and dump lye on your body to save their paycheck.  Yup, sounds just like the city....

[Cypher]

Too bad that’s not the case.  There was a young Marine who was patrolling the border and came under fire from a Mexican “sheepherder”.  The “sheepherder” missed but the Marine did not and then they tried to press charges on him.  Was a while ago and can’t remember the details… I will see if I can find some.

A buddy of mine is stationed in yuma and told me about an incident like that. It may be the same one.

[Rich46yo]

Anyone coming over from the Mexico side, that is armed, should be considered hostile. The trick is how do you make sure its not just another camper/hunter/US citizen? Its best to make an attempt to ID them. But if they dont respond, or drop their weapons, then you should shoot. Be that LEOs or citizens on the border. Just because I think its wrong to back shoot 2 unarmed property offenders who pose you no danger doesnt mean I think a citizen should have to take a chance with armed offenders coming from a foreign country. They should automatically be considered hostile. I'd never go against a citizen who shot armed invaders.

I almost joined the BP but didn't when I heard about the problems in that agency, "not that I ended up joining anything better or safer". Its a terrible mistake not to back BP agents when they have to use force against illegals.

Frankly I dont blame border citizens for being pissed off. This country has let them down.                                                                 

w I don't see how the risk of dealing with the boarder crossers is any different than that of a normal policeman dealing with criminals. Granted the work place might be a bit though, but not likely much wore than being a cop in a slum city. Hell I'd do it, if I needed a job and lived close to our boarder.

One big difference is in a city slum I would have 100 backups within 2 mins of putting out the call. BPAs would have to wait a far longer time then that for backup. I would rate being a BPA as more dangerous then being a slum copper.

[Jappa52]

This thread has got me looking into the border situation a little more.  I found this site that seems to have a lot of information on it.  Just scanning through some of the pictures and saw these postcards that were found at the illegal’s rest/dump sites. 

http://www.desertinvasion.us/invasion_pictures/invasion_three_points3.html