General Gun Discussion

[lazs2]

whiskey.. I have to agree..  I am much happier that you are a citizen instead of mr fork.

In fairness..  I know some brits who have left the socialist oppression of their native country and come here and they are hard working and share the views of people like yourself..  they are also gun owners now.  They get a light in their eyes when they say how fun it is to show visiting friends and relatives from the old country their guns.   They get a kick out of the reaction.

lazs

[Jackal1]

August 22nd.
Not a very pleasant anniversary, but one that needs to be remembered for those of us that believe in personal freedom , rights and the very essence of what this country is supposed to stand for.
Think before you vote. You probably wouldn`t enjoy Socialism leaning towards communism.
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"On August 22, the second day of the siege, an FBI sniper, Lon Horiuchi, shot and wounded Randy Weaver in the right arm, while he was lifting the latch on the shed to visit the body of his dead son. Then, as Weaver, his 16-year-old daughter Sara, and Harris ran back toward the house, Horiuchi took a second shot, which struck and wounded Harris, and killed Vicki Weaver. Vicki Weaver was standing behind the door through which Harris was entering the house, holding their 10-month-old baby Elishiba in her arms.
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As a sidenote , Weaver`s old `51 Chevy flatbed is for sale on eBay currently.

[Rich46yo]

That entire Weaver episode disgusted me about the FBI and the Fed. As if I needed more disgust.

And over what? A sawed off shotgun he sold some snitch as a personal favor? In that part of the country a sawed off shotgun is like a traffic ticket.

Anyway heres the story behind this Federal screwby. http://land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/weaver.shtml

[iTunes]

I wonder how the recent Judgements at the Supreme Court RE: Weapon ownership will pan out at city level? In particular, DC and San Francisco.
I get emails from the NRA with updates, but I think that this will drag on for a while yet,

[Shuffler]

Just curious, what do u guys feel about right to bare arms? hold concealed weps? personally, i wish i could cruise around wit my 12 guage lol, u nvr know when u will b robbed/attacked

-BigBOBCH

Here you don't need a concealed carry to walk the streets with a shotgun. I've kept a shotgun in my truck for years.

[lazs2]

rich.. glad to see that some law enforcement is overboard to you...   the sawed off shotgun thing is a $5 tax evasion.

Weaver swears that he cut the barrel down to just over the 18" legal limit.  they said it was an eighth of an inch under that.

lazs

[wrag]

rich.. glad to see that some law enforcement is overboard to you...   the sawed off shotgun thing is a $5 tax evasion.

Weaver swears that he cut the barrel down to just over the 18" legal limit.  they said it was an eighth of an inch under that.

lazs

An interesting book................

"Molon Labe"  by Boston T. Party  ISBN 1-888766-07-7

http://www.javelinpress.com/

Although buying it direct from him is kinda difficult!

If you read what is acceptable payment...............

[Rich46yo]

rich.. glad to see that some law enforcement is overboard to you...   the sawed off shotgun thing is a $5 tax evasion.

Weaver swears that he cut the barrel down to just over the 18" legal limit.  they said it was an eighth of an inch under that.

lazs

You have to weigh everything on this job. In other words is the crime worth a certain risk, and a certain effort, and the arrest worth putting innocents in jeapardy? And nothing, NOTHING is more dangerous then an upwardly mobile LEO Boss who wants the pinch to make themselves look like a star.

Was the Weaver thing "worth" the resource deployment, money spent innocents put in danger? Was a shotgun saw 1/4" to short such a big thing in the first place? Of course it wasnt! The G just wanted wood on the guy to turn him into a snitch. That was the bottom line.

And let alone they trampled his rights in the first place. Then they deploy the ninjas and it turns into a screwby with a kid killed as well as his mother holding her baby. I dont believe in 2nd guessing other coppers for a bad shoot. Ive seen bad shoots happen to better coppers then I am. The fact is it could happen to any of us. But the Weaver case was far more then a "bad shoot". I believe those behind it should have been charged criminally.

Police officers in America are not soldiers. We are public servants and have no business making war on our citizens. The morons behind the Weaver case decision making should have been held criminally accountable.

This was another screwball Janet reno caper wasnt it. Oh man was she a bad news bimbo.

[lazs2]

rich... on this..  we are in complete agreement.

lazs

[1pLUs44]

We just got our old Weatherby Centurion back in time for opening day of Dove Season. It works great. Nothing better than a 30 y/o semi-auto working just as good as it has since day one.

(We thought it was broke for good, but after 30 years of shooting, it turned out something had slightly bent)

[lazs2]

A lot of the guns I shoot are pre war.   I just bought a Smith and Wesson military and police in 38 special for my girlfriend because she had to have it after shooting it.   ended up costing me another 80 bucks tho for eagle rosewood classic grips.

lazs