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Offline RAM

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« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2000, 03:03:00 PM »
 
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RAM:  The best information I have is that the MW 50 system was not installed at the factory at all.
As I said, I was talking by memory.
 
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 Some time after production started the MW 50 kits were ready and were retrofitted to many aircraft.  I have no idea how many planes this was.  BTW speed at sea level with MW 50 was 380 mph.  

Many aircraft?...that is enough for wanting D9 with MW50 here!!!!!!!      


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« Reply #31 on: July 07, 2000, 04:56:00 PM »
Nahh i think we'll just leave the D-9 with no MW 50  

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« Reply #32 on: July 07, 2000, 04:59:00 PM »
Popeye...

NO SPIT XIV FOR YOU!!

 

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« Reply #33 on: July 07, 2000, 10:05:00 PM »
Maj. Franz Goetz, final Geschwadder Kommodore of JG26 flew a D-13 as his last crate of the war. He *may* have had other D-13's under his command, but that is unknown.

Just mailed off my JG26 book to Conan...now that I need it. The D-13 info on Goetz is from a copy of "JG26 Photographic History of the Luftwaffe's Top Guns". Autographed copy by Adolf Galland, Addi Glunz, and the author - Donald Caldwell.

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« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2000, 11:32:00 AM »
 
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Fw 190D-14 was never produced.  D-9 airframes (Werknummer 210040 and 210043) were tested with DB603 but these were just development mules.  I know HTC has some perk planes in mind but I'm not sure if they will simulate planes that were never constructed.

Fw 190D-9 could do 435 mph at 18,700 feet with MW 50 anyways.  The 425 mph figure that is tossed around is for an aircraft without MW 50.

I'm 99% sure Fd-ski's climb numbers are not for MW 50.

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Well all I really want is the 3 cannon load out...can I have that?

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« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2000, 02:51:00 PM »
Pongo, to the best of my knowledge, the three-cannon 190's were prototypes only.  There may have been a handful produced, but these may have just been prototypes that were sent to the front.  

Just go with a Ta 152H.  More performance AND three cannon AND a definite record of production.

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« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2000, 12:08:00 PM »
The D9 vs P51 would be a joke. The D9 is faster, better climber, better roll, better dive, and equal if not faster turn rate.

The P51 advantage is turn radius and endurance.... woopie  

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« Reply #37 on: July 12, 2000, 01:29:00 PM »
So if we can have D-9 then the P-51 ain't the fastest plane anymore ?

Great !  

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« Reply #38 on: July 12, 2000, 02:33:00 PM »
 
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The D9 vs P51 would be a joke. The D9 is faster, better climber, better roll, better dive, and equal if not faster turn rate.

The P51 advantage is turn radius and endurance.... woopie  

FASTER?!?!?!? A D9!?!??!?!
lol

BETTER CLIMBER???? A D9?????
lol

BETTER DIVE!?!?!?!??! A D9 ????
lol

EQUAL OF BETTER TURNRATE!?!??!? A D9???
ROFLOL WITH TEARS IN MY EYES!

Nice troll...or go back to your books and learn something about WWII planes (J/K  )

Seriously d9 is slower and doesnt climb as good as a P51. Turnrate should be in P51's side as D9 has only a bit more powerloading than an A8...had you tried to outturn a P51 with a A8?...hehehhe

 

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« Reply #39 on: July 12, 2000, 03:24:00 PM »
I would not be so sure about all those things, RAM.

D-9 should be faster on the deck.

Dive would be close, and considering the engine power, Dora might be able to outdive P 51 at some flight conditions.

Climb, acceleration and roll are unquestionable, Dora beats P 51.

Turning might be interesting though.

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« Reply #40 on: July 12, 2000, 04:27:00 PM »
 
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If D9 is too uber then so is P51.

Crap. The 190 accelerates better, rolls better, better guns, practically as fast, dives almost as well, and the A5 turns WELL better, the D9 no worse than 51 in turn.

Bring on the 190-D9 along with the spit 14. Givin the choice between them i'd probably fly the D9 - so i doubt it will become 'spits high'. Truth be told i probably stick to my stang.

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« Reply #41 on: July 12, 2000, 08:38:00 PM »
Yeah, I'll stick to my F4U-1D (still can't hit anything with cannons).

Until they let me fly have my F4U-4 to fight the new uberbaddies!

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« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2000, 06:56:00 AM »
improve your gunnery, Spyhawk. Its worth it... http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum8/HTML/000625.html



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« Reply #43 on: July 13, 2000, 03:22:00 PM »
 
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Yeah, I'll stick to my F4U-1D (still can't hit anything with cannons).

Until they let me fly have my F4U-4 to fight the new uberbaddies!

Screw that, if a D9 is entered into the system, I want a F8 Bearcat.

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« Reply #44 on: July 13, 2000, 04:03:00 PM »
Sorry is there a rule that the P-51 has to be the best plane in the set?

The truth is performance wise with fellow '44 planes the 51 won't have a clear speed advantage a lot of the time and most of these planes will outclimb/out accelerate it. (D9, spit 14, tempest V, La-7, Ki-84 etc.)

It will still be a great plane but it's biggest asset range won't be as important in the arena.

P.S. Bearcats bring Sea Fury's, jets etc.