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Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2001, 02:50:00 PM »
You know me better than that verm...
Monday: Flew Spit V Yak9U
Tues: F4U-1D
Wednesday:P51/F4U-1D/LA7
Thursday:Tempest/Yak9U/Yak9T

Moral of the story, I fly them all..I don't have a favorite ride except on squad night(Remember, I was XO, CO of 55+ JG2?  Guess what we flew?     )

Its just my view that this plane is awesome, but awesome to the point that if the C-Hog is to get perked, its my opinion this one needs it too (and, I might add that alot others I've spoke with on RW in our Knit missions feel the same way)



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Offline Vermillion

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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2001, 04:14:00 PM »
You know I'm just messing with you Rip.  

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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2001, 05:27:00 PM »
Surprisingly Im with verm on this one, the LA7 simply sucks, its simply too fast and climbs too well, it has 3 20mm cannon in a 3 foot hit box, plus it has a very high roll rate (and we all know thats bad), plus it can just run away from any non perked plane under 20k, and man its acceleration is so fast you must watch how u use throttle or might get a speeding ticket, whats the point of having that plane in AH it simply doesnt have a chance?  Man thinking of how bad it must be for the LA7 drivers just makes me cry, I really feel for you guys- really!

Ok Verm I simply dont understand ur act here, LA7 is not perked so you can stop this acting, its one hell of fun and capable plane its fast, well armed, climbs and turns best of the faster planes down low, rolls like a 190- its just a really really good fighter. Now Ive been an bellybutton towards u a bit lately-
and I want to make it clear I dont mean this post to be an attack on u, (just a bit of sarcasm for funs sake), but I genuinly dont understand why you think LA7 isnt prolly  the best plane in AH at low alt (excluding perked tempest).


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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2001, 06:26:00 PM »
This is why the 4-cannon planes are nice...we can HO the LA7's  

First time I ever flew a N1K was today, in which I suicidally HO'ed a LA7.  We both died.

LA7's ARE awesome planes...but I have yet to die from one when another plane couldn't have killed me just as easily.  I think the LA7 is one of two things:

1) It has the best possible performance for a non-perk plane, and is the standard by which all planes will be judged in regards to perking, or 2) It will become the first cheap perk (cheap being 5-8 points).

Personally, I think #1 is the case, but time will tell.  

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Offline Vermillion

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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2001, 07:50:00 PM »
Grunherz, don't get me wrong, I have always said its a kick bellybutton fighter, especially in the hands of a good pilot.

All I'm saying is that it has weakness's that can be exploited.

I have flown about 80% of my sorties this tour in one, so I feel qualified to talk about it. The rest of mine are in Dora's, P51's, and Yak's for air to air. And a few P47 and F4U-1C's for ground attack.

Its rear visibility stinks, and you can easily lose a con in all those bars.

Its got good guns if you get in close and use short bursts, but the B20/ShVaks are like MG151's you can't just spray and pray from long distance and expect much. And the ammo load is fairly small to do shooting like that.

Its also got a small fuel load, I have something like 5 ditches and 3 bails due to running out of fuel.

Best way to beat a La7? Don't fight its fight.

A Dora is faster at all altitudes and has longer legs. Hit and run, and drag it out. In a Pony stay above 7k, where you are equal and better in speed, and keep the fight fast, working the La7 the same way as the Dora.

In fact, keep the fight higher if at all possible in either aircraft, above 8k-10k the La7 becomes pretty average.

But no, don't think that I'm saying the La7 stinks. Far from it.  Hell, I love it personally, but you know I have had this thing for VVS aircraft for a long time.

All I'm saying is that it has weaknesses that can be exploited if you fight smart. But if you screw up... yes, it will kill you quickly.  

I had several great Dora vs La7 fights tonight.

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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2001, 08:13:00 PM »
Vermillion: "A Dora is faster at all altitudes"

NO - nothing is faster below 5k(except the Arado and Tempest).  

Grunherz: "plus it can just run away from any non perked plane under 20k"

NO - above 5k the P-51D, Fw 190D-9 and Me 109G-10 are faster. At 12k the P-51B, Yak-9U and F4U-1 have overtaken it too, above 16k the P-47D, P-38L and Fw 190A-5 are close, above 22k they are all faster - even the lowly Spit 9 puts the boot in at around 24k.  

At 5k and below it's a superplane. But by 20k it's decidedly average.

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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2001, 08:25:00 PM »
opps meant to say 10k instead of 20k but ill take ur word juzz for speeds

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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2001, 02:31:00 PM »
S!

 Have tested the La7 for a few times and couldn't fly it at all after my rides in the venerable 109G-2.It has all the abovementioned good qualities,but it was missing a good pilot, which I am not. Meeting one is always a tough nut to crack,but manageable.I have great respect for this plane.Why perk it?No reason.



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