109K4 V Spit 14

[Yarbles]

When making an ENY case, you should never compare a plane to another and justify that comparison for changing ENY.  You should compare each plane in its own right to the entire plane set and its MA unbalancing factors, all things considered.  So, look at all things entailing the K4 objectively and determine its appropriate eny.  Then look at the Spit14 and determine its Eny.  Do not say, "Since Spit14 is Eny5 and K4 is similar to Spit14, then k4 should be ___.  That's not correct since the Spit14's eny value may not be correct.

All that being said, I have flown the spit14, evaluated it, and I think it should be Eny5 no perk.  It is no better than the Spit16 and probably slightly worse all things considered.  As for the K4, should probably be 15 Eny.

Agreed but I don't feel qualified to judge one plane against the whole plane set. It seems strange if one plane is about as able as another but one is perked and the other is ENY 20 but it is not conclussive I agree that one or both have the wrong eny/perk atached.

[Yarbles]

Then start a new thread.  You're not achieving X by addressing Y.  The two are unrelated in as far as your objective is concerned.

My objective is either to have the two planes in question converge around ENY 10 or understand why there is so much difference. Ok I am only one player and may not understand what this is about or how it works but the purpose of this forumn is to ask these questions among other things.

[Yarbles]

The reason why it's perked is because it is a Twitfire. K4 is too difficult to fly to be perked. Twitfire on the other hand...

If the 14 was basically an 8 withe better straight line speed then an ENY of 5 and a perk would be in order. I think even the 8 is in many ways a better all round plane and that has ENY 10. The 14 loses too much in terms of low speed stability and turn to make it clearly any better than the 16 of the 18. It does not handle like a spit in a predictable manner.