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Offline MachFly

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Re: Perk em
« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2012, 08:00:23 AM »
The thing about the Spit16 is that while it isnt a speed demon from 0 to 350 TAS down low, all it needs is a wee bit of nose down to gain that much more momentum to hang with the speed demons for a bit.  More than once a Spit16 has fallen in my 6 while I was in a P51, Dora, P47x, or other such "faster" plane and the Spit16 simply hangs with me for quite a bit even though the stated speed is well below what the charts say.  The Spit 16 is faster than many give it credit for, the charts do not tell the entire story, they never do.

The term "slow" can not be applied to the Spit16 is any manner.  When gauging it speed from 0-max @ altitude it still ranks well above average in terms of LW arena planes.  There are very few planes than can actually run away from it in the short term.                

Most of the Spit16 are found on the deck as that's where they perform the best, at that point you usually can't dive. If you compare the Spit16 at altitude than it should have an ENY of 15 or 20 as it really doesn't handle well up high.

Spit16 might be able to accelerate to it's top speed fast but because it's top speed is slow it will stop accelerating soon, at which point the guy that's chasing you will easily catch up.
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Re: Perk em
« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2012, 08:02:12 AM »
spit16 does 344 on the deck
same as the p38L/J, the D-jugs, 109G2
only only 6 mph slower than the B-pony, La-5, 109G14

I'm not sure if I understand what your trying to prove. Are you saying that the Spit16 is slow or fast? Because your comparing a 5 ENY plane to 20 ENY planes and saying that Spit16 is fast. Let's compare the Spit16 to other 5 ENY planes, then it will look slow.
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Re: Perk em
« Reply #47 on: March 21, 2012, 09:09:57 AM »
some people said the spit16 is slow.
Well lets compare it to low eny planes:
pony: eny5, does 363 on the deck, 20 more than the spix, but the spix gets it in 1 turn also climbs a lot better
chog: perked to 15. Only 7-8mph faster than the spit16, but accelerates and climbs very slowly. Also the spix has much better maneuverability. Can dive very well and has 900 rounds of 20mm tho.
4hog: perked to 20. Very strong all around aircraft, its real hard (next to inpossible) to beat a well flown one.
spit14: perked to 10. much faster than the spit16 but a pig and cant turnfight well. I would compare it to the 109K, whats eny20. But thats an other topic
La-7: eny8, much faster than the spit, accelerates the same up to 300mph tho.
Niki: eny8, slower than the spix, turns/rolls/climbs worse, but has big guns.

The spix is not slow. If youre used to the ponies, yea you cant play the endless pick n run chicken cheit game in it (at least not as easily). But with a small alt advantage, it can catch anything.
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Re: Perk em
« Reply #48 on: March 21, 2012, 03:56:03 PM »
See Rule #4

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Re: Perk em
« Reply #50 on: March 21, 2012, 06:37:21 PM »
Ok.. wasted about 20 minutes of my life in search of...   


The first 'Perk the LA-7' thread!!

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,1013.0.html



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Re: Perk em
« Reply #52 on: March 21, 2012, 07:05:02 PM »
Perk everything but the Corsair.

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Re: Perk em
« Reply #53 on: March 21, 2012, 07:13:58 PM »
some people said the spit16 is slow.
Well lets compare it to low eny planes:
pony: eny5, does 363 on the deck, 20 more than the spix, but the spix gets it in 1 turn also climbs a lot better
chog: perked to 15. Only 7-8mph faster than the spit16, but accelerates and climbs very slowly. Also the spix has much better maneuverability. Can dive very well and has 900 rounds of 20mm tho.
4hog: perked to 20. Very strong all around aircraft, its real hard (next to inpossible) to beat a well flown one.
spit14: perked to 10. much faster than the spit16 but a pig and cant turnfight well. I would compare it to the 109K, whats eny20. But thats an other topic
La-7: eny8, much faster than the spit, accelerates the same up to 300mph tho.
Niki: eny8, slower than the spix, turns/rolls/climbs worse, but has big guns.

The spix is not slow. If youre used to the ponies, yea you cant play the endless pick n run chicken cheit game in it (at least not as easily). But with a small alt advantage, it can catch anything.

I say those numbers show a pretty big difference. Also if you look at the numbers at 5K the difference will be even greater.


BTW I disagree what you said about the 14, it can out turn a lot of planes and those that it can't out turn it can easily out run.
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