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Offline Vulcan

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Re: Whooping cough is back
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2012, 05:47:43 PM »
Our newborn was almost killed by an vitamin K injection at birth to prevent a problem that <1% of newborns suffer from, the reaction was due to a problem that ~7% of newborns suffer from.

This was then followed up with a TB immunization that has caused a solid lump just under his armpit followed by a serious infection. Upon doing some research this is a common side effect that can develop into something quite nasty.

Immunization needs to be properly assessed, imho those in healthcare regularly fail to do this due to an almost zealot like attitude to immunization.

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Re: Whooping cough is back
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2012, 07:52:36 PM »
with a vengeance. You can thank the folks who don't vaccinate their kids for that. Let's hope noone dies this time.

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Re: Whooping cough is back
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2012, 08:06:46 PM »
I've had more immunizations than I can count or remember from being sent overseas to some of the world's worst armpits so many times.  Never had a bad reaction to any of em.  One of the lucky percentage I guess.  I don't think I can even get Martian Monkey Pox.



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Re: Whooping cough is back
« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2012, 08:27:42 PM »
It's booster shot being pushed by a drug company.  Think they call it T-something?  Someone trying to create a market, that isn't needed.

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Re: Whooping cough is back
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2012, 08:34:22 PM »
Roll the dice... do or don't. Just live with your choices.

Some don't do well with the shots for most anything. Generally folks with weaker systems.

     Not sure I buy that, I'm required to have flu vacs<annually> and pneumonia vacs<every 5 years> because of kidney failure,
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Re: Whooping cough is back
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2012, 09:57:03 PM »
Our newborn was almost killed by an vitamin K injection at birth to prevent a problem that <1% of newborns suffer from, the reaction was due to a problem that ~7% of newborns suffer from.

This was then followed up with a TB immunization that has caused a solid lump just under his armpit followed by a serious infection. Upon doing some research this is a common side effect that can develop into something quite nasty.

Immunization needs to be properly assessed, imho those in healthcare regularly fail to do this due to an almost zealot like attitude to immunization.
Is a lump on the armpit worth a TB free life? I never plan on having kids so my perspective might be a little different, but if it was my decision immunization would be mandatory. For me the public safety aspect outweighs your personal freedom. I don't want to get TB, or smallpox because some hippie doesn't want to put chemicals into their
 kids body. It sucks that some kids don't react well to immunizations, but think how they would react to the smallpox virus.
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Re: Whooping cough is back
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2012, 11:57:47 PM »
So last year we had out insurer come into the office and offer pig flu vaccines to everyone.  I declined, with a few others.  It was really weird in a week, the people who didn't get the mercury barium Mono sodiumglutamate shot were the only ones at work for 5 days while everyone else was sicker than they'd been in months.  (Then you read the news and find out that vaccine was worse than the virus they were hoping to combat... and that the virus itself was a leaked bioweapon from a US lab and think OMG?!?!)
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Re: Whooping cough is back
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2012, 09:16:41 AM »
Some things are worth vaccinating against.

I would go with MMR and Polio off the top of my head.

Some are not.  I'll go with chicken pox and influenza.  Don't want scars from chicken pox?  Don't scratch them.  Don't want the flu?  Practice good hygiene and you are less likely to catch it, especially if you have a decent immune system.

For the most part though (barring immune deficiencies issues), the best way for the human immune system to become stronger is PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE.  Children are supposed to get sick (within reason).  It makes them healthier adults.

Honestly, the whole "anti-bacterial" craze, is humorous to me.  Sure, proper hand-washing is the easiest way to combat the spread of most germs.  So is keeping your hands out of your mouth and nose, covering your mouth when you cough/sneeze, things that we are all taught as kids (most of us, anyhow), but I can't keep myself from chuckling when I go to the grocery store and see the "handle wipes" for the cart and the gallon pump-jug of hand sanitizer.  When I go out in public and touch doorknobs/shopping carts/etc, I wash my hands before I eat or touch my face.  It is common sense.

By the same token, when I go to the nursing home to visit my grandfather, I can see the need for the hand-sanitizer stations strategically placed throughout the building, starting as soon as you  walk in the door.  I see a lot of folks use them on the way out "because of the germs", but in actuality, they are supposed to be for when you come in.  It makes sense as I am entering a building full of elderly folks that are more likely to have a compromised immune system in their advanced age.  They are more likely to become ill from something that I bring in with me than I am by catching something while I am there.

Now at hospitals, I use them on the way in for courtesy and on the way out because hospitals, by nature, are full of germs.

I think the tendency to vaccinate for everything under the sun and to do it all at once is a bit extreme.  I also think that it is not the best idea for children that are still developing.

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Re: Whooping cough is back
« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2012, 12:56:07 PM »
with a vengeance. You can thank the folks who don't vaccinate their kids for that. Let's hope noone dies this time.

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Re: Whooping cough is back
« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2012, 02:44:33 PM »
I went to the doc over what I thought was whooping cough. I have been vaccinated against it... Apparently in my region the vaccine was of a type that actually expires  :bhead I asked her if she was serious, thinkin' she was joshin' me. Nope, honest to goodness. Ha!

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Re: Whooping cough is back
« Reply #25 on: April 11, 2012, 03:17:31 PM »
I never got vaccinated for it because you had to request it. When I got it my first thought was thinking whooping cough was gone. It was not fun and I had to keep away from everyone in my family as much as possible.
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Re: Whooping cough is back
« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2012, 03:29:33 PM »
public safety aspect outweighs your personal freedom

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Re: Whooping cough is back
« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2012, 08:38:49 PM »
Amen to both Von Messa and Curry.

One note to Sunsfan. I respect where you are coming from though there is a bit of safety in your words. You feel that public safety merits immunizing everyone. If immunizations worked as advertised then the only people at risk are those who are not. In theory, all of these people would die from something, you would live. You are not at risk in any way.

Now, if you want to take it the next step, which is you get to decide how to raise another persons child, that is a completely different discussion. I know a strong, centralized government that is omnipotent feels compelled to raise everyones child. My two girls are just fine.

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Re: Whooping cough is back
« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2012, 10:28:53 PM »

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