Worth mentioning, the A5 gets easily pilot sound compared wth the A8.
An observation :a off angle plane reversing 600 in front of an A8 with 4*20mm is as good as ded, with 30mm that won't happen, they nomally hit with the 20mm, and if it's not a spit or 109, they lose an aerlion,while spits and 109 lose the wing/wingtip.