LA-7s

[Latrobe]

That's a shame. Seeing as you fly both air frames almost exclusively, your opinion would be a healthy contribution to this thread.

I got to read his post before he edited it so I'll do a quick summary for you.

Below 8K you're screwed fighting an La7 with any 190.

Above 8K the Dora can extend with better speed until you gain the needed separation and altitude to reengage with more advantages

Above 16K do the same with the 152.



Not sure why the edit to PM, I'm sure lots of folks would find the information interesting.

[glzsqd]

Sounds about right, I'm interested in seeing the "tactics" he mentioned in another post. I'm sure that kind of information would be helpful in this thread.

[The Fugitive]

While what has been said is good info don't EVER give up on the fight!

Check out the film. Im in a D9 and blow a perfectly good shot on a 3k zooming 38. I then get jumped by a screamin LA7. Pretty much the scenario everyone says your dead meat on, low and slow in a D9 with a high E LA jumping you. Fight it out, you never know how it will end until it is over!

http://www.mediafire.com/download/y852qe94zq6w5tm/whos_lucky_la.ahf

[RedAgony]

Thank you all for the replies!  I have learned to *really* pick your fights, and a tip that Skyrr has helped me drill into my head "Always assume your opponent is going to fly perfect ACM."  That takes most all of the guess work out of flying in the MA.   

I know sometimes fights are hard to come by, but if you want to avoid the frustration of being sent to the tower, sometimes it's better to pass a fight up, unless it's a buddy that needs help.

One day at a time!  You learn new things all the time-- boy it seems I was ready to give the game up a couple months ago because I couldn't reliably kill high bombers with P-51s or P-47s.  Then I learned the hard way to use the right tool for the job (if I want to hunt bombers, I'd better be packing cannons/2 engines).

Also taking time to read this http://www.imagery.vnfawing.com/PDF-Archive/Fighter-Combat-Tactics-and-Maneuvering.pdf

Thanks!

[glzsqd]

The P51 and P47 are perfectly capable of swatting those buffs away. Infact, the single engine fighters have an easier time climbing up and over the buffs for a good attack position. Single engine fighters are also able to neutralize escorts more effectively.

[morfiend]

2. If you fly 190s a lot this means your torque goes the left where as a the torque for an La7 goes to the right! This is good for you! Next time you think you can pull off a rope, spiral climb to the left. You may have a chance to win the rope as the la7 will be battleing itself and losing a lot of

  This isnt correct,both the 190 and La7 engines spin the same way!   You may have the La confussed with the Yak!



     

[DmonSlyr]

  This isnt correct,both the 190 and La7 engines spin the same way!   You may have the La confussed with the Yak!



     

Ah shucks. Figured all Russian was the opposite 

[shake307]

That is correct.  The D9 and La7 both spin the same direction.  The only wrong turners I can think of are the spit14, yak 3, tempest, typhoon?, and technically p38.  Also, don't approach bombers from the rear. Climb above and ahead of them.  Dive on them, shoot.  Keep diving, and if you want, zoom climb to meet them again.  Or zoom climb ahead of them and dive again.  I am not very good at this game, but using this tactic, I can tear up a bomber formation.   

[Scca]

That is correct.  The D9 and La7 both spin the same direction.  The only wrong turners I can think of are the spit14, yak 3, tempest, typhoon?, and technically p38.  Also, don't approach bombers from the rear. Climb above and ahead of them.  Dive on them, shoot.  Keep diving, and if you want, zoom climb to meet them again.  Or zoom climb ahead of them and dive again.  I am not very good at this game, but using this tactic, I can tear up a bomber formation.   

Agreed!

The P-47 is a bomber killer.  Of course, nothing is good if you use bad tactics...

[save]

In the Fw190a8-A5: high speed rolling scissor - forcing overshoot.
In the A8 only - and as a last resort - abrupt pullup forcing a snap-roll, its  probably world record in speed loss in one second. do it close to ground so its hard to spot the plane icon.
At high alt you can dive away, and be a very hard target- as Bozon noted : luckily most LA-7 pilots are well below average in flying hours.

When attacking fields - always attack the La-7s first.

[Skyyr]

In the Fw190a8-A5: high speed rolling scissor - forcing overshoot.
In the A8 only - and as a last resort - abrupt pullup forcing a snap-roll, its  probably world record in speed loss in one second. do it close to ground so its hard to spot the plane icon.
At high alt you can dive away, and be a very hard target- as Bozon noted : luckily most LA-7 pilots are well below average in flying hours.

When attacking fields - always attack the La-7s first.

All the LA has to do is pull up vertical, go to a flat horizontal turn for 90*, and then come back down rolling back 90*. Your entire maneuver is negated.

[save]

And still 80% do not do that due lack of experience, or other reasons.

80% are greedy for the fast kill in the rocket-7.
They lose vis of enemy in a scissor, they HO a plane they outperform in aspects than front quarter shots. The list is long and less complimentary.


If more of the average-good players would fly the LA-7, it would be perked already, or lose it's 3rd cannon, which I advocate.

Pretty much 80% of all planes taking off from capped bases are either La-7 or the zero-gravity climber Yak-3.


2 good La-7 pilots flying as wingmen in a low-altitude fight are almost untouchable and it's a myth they can only defend own bases.
If they fly with reduced RPM ( they still fly like 30mph faster than an A8 with wep on) they can fight like 7-8 minutes a sector away, and fly back with their reduced RPM.

[glzsqd]

Giving the LA7 a little to much credit IMO

[icepac]

Punch it

yank the stick

shoot

repeat