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Offline 1stpar3

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Re: Need More Bombers
« Reply #75 on: December 14, 2016, 03:05:07 AM »
In many cases the m3 problem is magnified by the spawn point placed too closer to the town. The drive distance is so short that the m3 can be killed again and again, but it will keep showing up every 2 minutes. An attacking plane that runs out of ammo, fuel, or gets shot down will take much longer time to return.

The need to get the supplies just to the edge of town has a similar effect to the above. If the M3 had to drop the supplies at the flag, it would make its travel time longer and give attacking tanks a chance to intecept it, or prevent the resupply by holding the flag. Currently, the m3 can come out of the trees line to the other edge of town and make the drop before planes or tanks can intecept it.

1) Make sure that spawn points are at least a few miles from the town - travel time should be the same as a round trip time of a plane from the near air base.

2) The m3 town resupply should only take if it is delivered to the flag. C47 town resupply can have a greater range (and larger effect) than the M3.
That could work! Would suck for the goon pilot though, maybe? Would definitely draw attention from M3s at least!
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Re: Need More Bombers
« Reply #76 on: December 14, 2016, 08:31:49 AM »
In many cases the m3 problem is magnified by the spawn point placed too closer to the town. The drive distance is so short that the m3 can be killed again and again, but it will keep showing up every 2 minutes. An attacking plane that runs out of ammo, fuel, or gets shot down will take much longer time to return.

The need to get the supplies just to the edge of town has a similar effect to the above. If the M3 had to drop the supplies at the flag, it would make its travel time longer and give attacking tanks a chance to intecept it, or prevent the resupply by holding the flag. Currently, the m3 can come out of the trees line to the other edge of town and make the drop before planes or tanks can intecept it.

1) Make sure that spawn points are at least a few miles from the town - travel time should be the same as a round trip time of a plane from the near air base.

2) The m3 town resupply should only take if it is delivered to the flag. C47 town resupply can have a greater range (and larger effect) than the M3.

Great ideas!

Anything that limits their effectivness is a step in the right direction.

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Re: Need More Bombers
« Reply #77 on: December 14, 2016, 09:05:49 AM »
1) Make sure that spawn points are at least a few miles from the town - travel time should be the same as a round trip time of a plane from the near air base.

So, travel time for attacking tanks would be more than the round trip time of a plane from a nearby airfield.  Guess that would tend get people out of tanks and back into airplanes.
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Re: Need More Bombers
« Reply #78 on: December 14, 2016, 10:04:40 AM »
Until this game is advertise and we get back to the 600 player arenas, Bombers are the most effective way to turn a map around. The way to balance out the m3 runs is hitting strats. There simply is not enough active players to pork barracks and drop resup vhs. The few fighters that are m3 hunting are usually at risk from enemy fighters. Friendly fighters can not maintain air cover for town and m3 hunt unless you have dominate numbers. The tactic of all hangers down and town white is the best way to do a base take. That requires atleast 4 sets of buffs with fighters to deak and kill any uppers. The current numbers don't support that anymore. So we have gone full circle to my first statement of the need for more bomber pilots until this game gets its population back. Hitting strats then bombing towns and hope you can get troops in before resupplied is the way to overcome current conditions. Yes I know most don't have the time to strat but the few that do can make a impact if they sacrifice 1 hour for god and country. If players notice a country that has strats hit should take advantage of it. The rules we currently play by might be ok once we get back to the glory days.

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Re: Need More Bombers
« Reply #79 on: December 14, 2016, 10:17:52 AM »
Maps seem to turn over regularly.
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Re: Need More Bombers
« Reply #80 on: December 14, 2016, 02:20:21 PM »
The need to get the supplies just to the edge of town has a similar effect to the above. If the M3 had to drop the supplies at the flag ...

Edge of town? Was the effective distance reduced since AH2? At least half a mile out worked fine there.

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Re: Need More Bombers
« Reply #81 on: December 14, 2016, 08:19:37 PM »
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Re: Need More Bombers
« Reply #82 on: December 14, 2016, 09:06:04 PM »
We also need more Cowbell to go with these Buffs  :devil
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Re: Need More Bombers
« Reply #83 on: December 15, 2016, 07:50:01 AM »
Edge of town? Was the effective distance reduced since AH2? At least half a mile out worked fine there.
Really? that would mean dropping the supplies in the trees outside of town. If true then this is aweful and we are lucky that very few m3 drivers know about this  :uhoh
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Re: Need More Bombers
« Reply #84 on: December 15, 2016, 10:24:39 AM »
Topics like this sure draw out the players I despise as human beings. Some of the opinions and ideas Ive read sure bring out the narcissists in a lot of you folks. There is only 1 solution to this problem. Grief the enemy HQ for their insolence and abuse of m3's.

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Re: Need More Bombers
« Reply #85 on: December 15, 2016, 11:40:36 AM »
Making them have to drop at the map room would for sure help but I think a cut in the time they take off would still be needed.
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Re: Need More Bombers
« Reply #86 on: December 15, 2016, 11:54:56 AM »
We also need more Cowbell to go with these Buffs  :devil

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Re: Need More Bombers
« Reply #87 on: December 16, 2016, 09:14:03 AM »
Really? that would mean dropping the supplies in the trees outside of town. If true then this is aweful and we are lucky that very few m3 drivers know about this  :uhoh

That's only the beginning of awful, really :t

I've tried to find a point to drop where only part of the town would be resupplied. The basic idea being, that some buildings need to be destroyed again, while others would come up on their own after that has been accomplished (to get things into the nasty cycle of mixed rebuild times).
Haven't tried too hard though (running supplies IS boring after all) and didn't find the correct distance yet. With the more compact towns in AH3 it's probably not that useful/easy even if the game mechanics should allow it work.

Does anyone know if resupply is all-or-nothing, or distance per building is considered?

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Re: Need More Bombers
« Reply #88 on: December 16, 2016, 10:41:53 AM »
I believe its all or nnothing. Within 800 yards of theflag or something like that.

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Re: Need More Bombers
« Reply #89 on: December 16, 2016, 11:57:18 AM »
M3 supplies > bombers