Union in my cookie?!

[Curval]

Originally posted by Creamo
Strange, I pay $720 a year in union dues at their new inflated dues rate. My last raise (just the raise alone) payed for them in the 1st 2 week check. Noone hates the union so much anymore.

I was wondering why the airlines are in such a piss poor financial state...I thought it was 9/11...apparently not.

[Hangtime]

Like I said, any company with a union probably deserves it.

Bingo.

Lotsa folks like to point at unions and blame 'em for the unraveling of the american economy.

roadkill.

You won't get any crew to vote union unless they are being screwed by management. Once management gets it's collective act together, they then love to point at the unions stewards and make 'unneccessary, expensive and counter-productive' noises.

roadkill again. Pull the union out, and there's nothin to keep those amazinhunks in management from screwin the crews just like before.

Management: "Profits for the shareholders is paramount"

Union: "A fair wage, safe working conditions and protection from scumbag floorbosses is paramount"

Yah, I'm pro union till the day the govenment guarentees the employers ain't got a way to screw us outta our benefits 6 months before we retire.

[Toad]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Unions cannot provide anything decent management cannot beat.

Obviously bad management preceeded the unions Toad, but with current labor laws Unions are essencially unnecessary. Like I said, any company with a union probably deserves it.

I was all set to jump on this one, but then Hangtime summed it up perfectly.

The idea that current labor laws make Unions unnecessary is Pollyanna thinking at it's best.

You can't FIND decent management, like Hang said. At least you can't count on finding it and having it stay that way without a Union.

Like I said, the ONLY thing worse than a Union is ....... No Union.


Checks and balances. Without Unions, Managment is unchecked.

[StSanta]

Heh, my union, hwich is one consisting of IT-professionals, is non political.

The rest of the unions here suck - all left leaning. You'll get hell if you don't join the same union as your co-workers (my mother did, but still dinnae join, and they said she had no 'solidarity'.

thing is, her union actively gave money to the social democrats - money taken from the membership fees. And my mom (bless her) ain't no social commu...err democrat.

My union has some lawyers, and we get to use 'em in case we're wrongfully fired and stuff like that. Already paid for by the membership fee.

Most are just bloated old fashioned leftovers from the industrial age though, and fail to recognize that we now live in a service oriented world .

Those that aren't are run like they are

[lazs2]

"Conservatives tend to lump people into pigeonholes for easy consumption by their dim witted constituents. "

perhaps but... It is both time saving and accurate enough in most cases to do so..  On a personal level you might have to dig a little deeper but... generalizations work well enough to get by on.   Locking your car door while driving thru a ghetto say, is generalizing and... prudent.   Being armed is better of course.  

unions... decent concept badly executed.   whenever I am part of a barganing group I allways suggest that we get rid of the current union and get a new one... any of the ones promising us the moon... then, after they have done their job and before the next negotiations... we fire their lazy bellybutton and get a new one..   fat filled lazy bloodsuckers...  They have the same scent as shyster lawyers but.... when ya need em.... you want yours to be the most ruthless and unprincipaled you can get.
lazs