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Offline DmdNexus

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« Reply #105 on: November 04, 2003, 08:28:18 AM »
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Same-Sex Pair Bonding in Animals
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I smell BULLCHIT.
I mean for crying out loud just look at human genitalia
It only FITS one way.

:rolleyes:


You obviously don't watch the discovery channel....
They had video of a tribe of monkies not only engaging in homosexual activities... but also incest... orgies... mutual masturbation... fornication with fruits and vegitables... porno pants and leather fetishes... as well as biker-type bondage and S&M...

(ok the S&M part I threw in because that's my kink  - hey don't knock it until you try it.. I'm sure if monkies had opposible thumbs they would be indulging in the more refined erotica)
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« Reply #106 on: November 04, 2003, 08:32:24 AM »
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I didn't put homosexuals in there with pedophiles and such. God does that with His word. Abomination is applied to homosexuality and child sacrifice. Pedophile is a very light analogy by comparison. Look, typically you guys will ask why a religious guy is against homosexuality, and when he quotes scripture you get all huffy about it. I don't have to hate anyone to tell you what God said about them.


"God" does that with his word, and YOU follow his word and chose to point it out.  Well, that word anyway...have you ever worked on the sabbath?  Barring emergencies, of course, which the donkey in the ditch is referring to.  Ever go to a store on Sundays and support some other poor schmuck in his sinful ways?  Sorry you think I "get all huffy" just because I see no logic in your answer.  You could have chose to compare this sin to any other sin...I just find it curious you chose to compare it to pedophiles.

-edit- As I don't mean to pigpile on you, you can probably just ignore this.  I still don't find the logic in it, but my thoughts about your "God" won't likely change, so what does it matter?
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« Reply #107 on: November 04, 2003, 08:42:24 AM »
Furthermore all you biblical scholars.... if the bible is the authority of morality and who and who can not be "ordained" as a holy man to lead god's soiled and retched flock into the promised land..

Well... you are all Onanners!

  8: And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother.
   9: And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.
   10: And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.

Genesis 38:4,8-10; 46:12; Numbers 26:19; 1 Chronicles 2:3)

Note: This is God telling a guy to go sleep with his brothers wife.

You see the LORD ALMIGHTY DOG, ALLAH, JEHOVA, ALI, THE GREAT CREATOR, ETERNAL SPIRIT, The DUDE...
Well, he doesn't like masturbators either... so if you have a noodle... and you've ever abused it out side of a wedlocked Vagina .. you're going to BURN IN THE BRIMSTONE FIRES OF HELL FOR ETERNITY!

I don't care what a priest says... they are all masturbators... which is just as an abmination in the eyes of god as a homosexual.

Ok well I don't believe in this B/S I'm just letting you what God told me last night while I was flogging my log and getting my behind beat to a rosey glow by Ma'dame Olga Dementrix.

Funny how the bible doesn't mention women lieing down with women being wrong... that's because.. the dudes who wrote that non-sense liked to watch lesbo acts and donkey shows.
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« Reply #108 on: November 04, 2003, 09:11:33 AM »
You know, this whole thing comes down to people who don't believe in Christianity, don't understand it by self-admission, telling believers how the church should run. In addition, some of you are adding things which are either unproven or patently false to shore your arguments.

I personally have never professed hatred for any person on this issue, though many of you act as if I did. Through repetition this has somehow become fact, much like the vaunted "genetic link" theory. It doesn't upset me, don't get me wrong, but if you think I'm repeating myself, you should hear you from my perspective.

I can't help you if your superficial knowledge of the Bible prevents you from understanding it. Really, that sounds condescending, but it isn't meant that way. But surely you can see the comedy in people who've either already said they don't believe or understand religion telling religion how it should be run?
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« Reply #109 on: November 04, 2003, 09:33:16 AM »
Kieren, that isn't what this all comes down to.  The members of the episcopal church, who are believers in God and do have an understanding of christianity and the bible, have made this man a bishop.  Not any atheists or agnostics.  Even many, many believers disagree with you.
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« Reply #110 on: November 04, 2003, 09:50:30 AM »
Absolutely right, I stand corrected, although you must concede much of this thread has been about what I discussed. It was a mild hijack.

My dog in the hunt is I am a Christian who will be affected by the decision. What do others bring to it?
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« Reply #111 on: November 04, 2003, 09:53:33 AM »
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My dog in the hunt is I am a Christian who will be affected by the decision. What do others bring to it?



How will this decision affect your relationship with God?
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« Reply #112 on: November 04, 2003, 10:00:00 AM »
How does it affect my personal relationship? It doesn't directly.

It affects Christianity and the perception people have of it.

It erodes core beliefs of Christianity.

It moves attention away from God and places it on an individual.
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« Reply #113 on: November 04, 2003, 10:13:47 AM »
I view homosexuals as I do any other mentally ill person.

Pity them, tolerate them but never EVER put them in a position of authority or near children!

It kills me to see all these new shows on TV promoting the humiliation of Gays.

I mean would you go to the nearest Nut House and pull up a chair to the window and laugh at the patients?

That's what you are doing if you watch these sad sad shows!
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« Reply #114 on: November 04, 2003, 10:47:58 AM »
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I view homosexuals as I do any other mentally ill person.

Pity them, tolerate them but never EVER put them in a position of authority or near children!


So someone with bi-polar disorder, ADD, or downs syndrome...
or even slightly marginally retarded...

You pity them and would not allow them to work at McDonalds, or at a school janitor because they are near children?

Because why?

You think they'll molest children?

And just because someone is gay.. you think they are out to corrupt children?

That's a rather ignorant point of view.

There are more fathers molesting their daughters and mothers hiding it and denying it than there are gay teachers, priests and bishops having sex with little boys.

Were you born a red neck or did you just grow up that way? :aok
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« Reply #115 on: November 04, 2003, 11:00:38 AM »
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How does it affect my personal relationship? It doesn't directly.

It affects Christianity and the perception people have of it.

It erodes core beliefs of Christianity.

It moves attention away from God and places it on an individual.


"The perception"... like christians hate any one who dosen't believe in what they believe in... and everyone who doesn't believe in what they believe in will burn in hell... and will not go to heaven... that's a rather arogant point of view.

Won't it be funny.. judgment day comes... Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Christians, Catholics, Mormons, Moonies, American Indians are all present before God... and he says ok all the "Branch Davidians" come on down!! You win the Holy Lottery.. welcome to Heaven! The rest of you can go to hell!

'Places it on an individual..." Like jerry farwell, Pat robinson, Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Baker, Tammy Fay... the Pope.. Bishops...  cardinals...

These are all self ordained holy men of god.

I say self ordained because they accepted the titles given to them by other men (not god) rather than being humble and saying they were unworthy of them.
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« Reply #116 on: November 04, 2003, 11:12:59 AM »
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I'm sure if monkies had opposible thumbs they would be indulging in the more refined erotica)
:rofl


Monkeys do have apposable thumbs. Four of them actually.

As you were.
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« Reply #117 on: November 04, 2003, 11:13:59 AM »
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"The perception"... like christians hate any one who dosen't believe in what they believe in... and everyone who doesn't believe in what they believe in will burn in hell... and will not go to heaven... that's a rather arogant point of view.


See, there you go. Who said Christians hate anyone who doesn't believe in what they believe in? You really, really have a superficial knowledge of Christianity.
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« Reply #118 on: November 04, 2003, 11:32:57 AM »
Well, this is the usual retarded thread concerning christianity. I think this all started about whether or not it is biblical to have gay bishops governing a church?
It is, of course, NOT biblical. (and if anybody here wants to argue that I'm ready :))
That is if you know how to read and look up scripture and be objective.

Now, of course, there's the narrow-minded hate filled people here who would paint anybody who wants to follow the bible as a homophobe.

No matter how you want homosexuality to be accepted, it just won't ever be to people who actually respect the bible. Don't believe the bible? Think homosexuality is ok? Then guess what, DON'T call yourself a christian. Is that so hard?

Can people not accept that their lifestyle goes against the teachings of the bible? What's the big deal?
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« Reply #119 on: November 04, 2003, 11:36:25 AM »
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You see the bible which is the word of God, is therefore infallible (aparently), then all of the teachings of the bible must be correctly followed should it not?


Typical fallacy.  The whole point of the New Testament is that the old law is no longer binding because of Christ.
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