Jose Padilla anyone know who this is?

[greentail]

Originally posted by Martlet
What's charged or tried have to do with anything?  We aren't allowed to hold our enemies in a time of war?  We have to try them first?  When did this start?

[/B]

1789. Here is a link for you. Read this, you'll be amazed!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution

[Martlet]

Originally posted by greentail


1789. Here is a link for you. Read this, you'll be amazed!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution [/B]

Funny.  You didn't answer the question in what you quoted.

[greentail]

Originally posted by Martlet
Funny.  You didn't answer the question in what you quoted.

Your question was "What's charged or tried have to do with anything? We aren't allowed to hold our enemies in a time of war? We have to try them first? When did this start?"

The answer is "1789".

[Martlet]

Originally posted by greentail
Your question was "What's charged or tried have to do with anything? We aren't allowed to hold our enemies in a time of war? We have to try them first? When did this start?"

The answer is "1789".

Actually, no.  That's a false answer.

[greentail]

Never mind, Martlet. We know where you stand on civil liberties now (you don't care for them). That makes your previous posts more understandable.

[Martlet]

Originally posted by greentail
Never mind, Martlet. We know where you stand on civil liberties now (you don't care for them). That makes your previous posts more understandable.

Ahhhh.  Now that you realize your argument is complete crap, it's "never mind".

Just slink away, troll, just slink away.  Perhaps you should just dump this account now and start yet another shades.

[Raider179]

Whatever happened to presumed innocent? What happened to the burden of proof having to be given by the government?

[Martlet]

Originally posted by Raider179
Whatever happened to presumed innocent? What happened to the burden of proof having to be given by the government?

Nothing.  You're confusing criminal law, which Padilla also violated and was punished in accordance with the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and Enemy Combatants.

[Shamus]

That is correct, you may be punished by decree now in this country provided that you are accused of the proper thing.

shamus

[Martlet]

Originally posted by Shamus
That is correct, you may be punished by decree now in this country provided that you are accused of the proper thing.

shamus

That's correct.  If you are a treasonous terrorist, you can be locked up indefinitely.

Thankfully.

[Nashwan]

That's correct. If you are a treasonous terrorist, you can be locked up indefinitely.

I think the point is, if your government claims you're a treasonous terrorist, you can be locked up indefinately.

[Martlet]

Originally posted by Nashwan
I think the point is, if your government claims you're a treasonous terrorist, you can be locked up indefinately.

If they claimed mother teresa was a treasonous terrorist, I'd be a little concerned.

If they claimed a chicago gang banger with a rap sheet as long as my truck, who changed his name to mohammed and moved to the middle east to train with al al qaeda was a terrorist, I'm not going to lose much sleep over it.

[Shamus]

It's very simple really, we have differing views.

I believe everyone in this country is entitled to due process under the law, you dont, we are never going to convince each other

shamus

[Martlet]

Originally posted by Shamus
It's very simple really, we have differing views.

I believe everyone in this country is entitled to due process under the law, you dont, we are never going to convince each other

shamus

I believe everyone is entitled to due process under the law also.  Holding someone as an enemy combatant is legal.

[Shamus]

Originally posted by Martlet
I believe everyone is entitled to due process under the law also.  Holding someone as an enemy combatant is legal.

Acording to the administration it is, according to the last federal court ruling in this case it is not.

Ok Im out take your last word

shamus