I was listening to "consevative" radio...

[Sandman]

Originally posted by miko2d
Sandman_SBM: He switched to NPR (state sponsored radio) to escape government propaganda? LOL

 No, no. Not to escape the propaganda, which must be clear from my post. There is no escape from propaganda.
 Just to get a few minutes rest from stupidity. The NPR stuff are not as deafeningly stupid, if equally flawed in content.
 Also, I need to know the leftist lies to expose them, as well as pseudo-conservatives' lies. Otherwise I may be accused of bias.
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That was Funked's quote, not mine...

[Martlet]

Originally posted by miko2d
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 Then they switch to a commercial


 miko

Obviously, miko missed the key phrase in his own post.

nice troll though.  I give it a 3.  You've done much better.

[miko2d]

Martlet: Obviously, miko missed the key phrase in his own post.
nice troll though. I give it a 3. You've done much better.

 Since I've started this thread and invited everyone, I did read this message of yours.

 So, what did I miss?

 When the same person that spoke of his confidence in the government's economic policies tells me how he would never advertise a product unless he/she used it personally and found it of great value - and are buying gold and selling the USA short, how am I supposed to accept that?

 It is no accident that the company hires Michale Savage or Laure Ingram or Sean Hannity to read this particular commercial. They are buying the trust of the audience, not just a squeaky voice.

 miko

[Martlet]

Originally posted by miko2d
Martlet: Obviously, miko missed the key phrase in his own post.
nice troll though. I give it a 3. You've done much better.

 Since I've started this thread and invited everyone, I did read this message of yours.

 So, what did I miss?

 When the same person that spoke of his confidence in the government's economic policies tells me how he would never advertise a product unless he/she used it personally and found it of great value - and are buying gold and selling the USA short, how am I supposed to accept that?

 It is no accident that the company hires Michale Savage or Laure Ingram or Sean Hannity to read this particular commercial. They are buying the trust of the audience, not just a squeaky voice.

 miko

Several things I scoff at.  Every time I address a comment to you, you answer it while explaining "this one time" you're reading it, but remember, I'm on ignore".  Every time I point out a flaw in your logic, you add something to your original statement to cover your butt.

Like i said, if you can't tell the difference between an advertisement and an OpEd, then I'm not the least bit surprised you've become the poster boy for liberal propaganda.

Again, this isn't your best troll.  You've done better,.

[Dago]

Miko,

Did you ever wonder if maybe, everyone else disagrees with you, maybe it's not everyone else who is wrong?

Or, if you think everyone is jerk, and everyone else just thinks you are a jerk, maybe its not everyone else who is a jerk?

All you can do is point out everything you think is wrong with our country/government, etc.  I ask you in all seriousness, why don't you leave?

you will turn it into a fully socialist state in no time

While we have never had a shortage of fools saying just this kind of stuff, funny thing is that isn't happened yet.  Hmmmm

Back in the 60s, more of that nonsense was spouted out then even now by fools like you.  Interesting fact is that our rights are still intact, minorities have more protections and opportunities, and our society has made great strides.

Miko, please tell us a little about yourself, your college degrees (must be extensive to call a Yale grad stupid),  tell us what you have accomplished in life, tell us of your creations, the businesses you have started, the lifes you have improved.   Tell us of the battles you have fought to protect freedoms, to help those less fortunate, to battle evil or injustice.

I have to believe you are a man of great accomplishments and deeds to place yourself in judgement of so many and institutions.

Otherwise, you are a just a loudmouthed worthless jerk.

dago

[john9001]

milko's quote
""prepared spiels of government propaganda""


i think you spent way to much time in the USSR.

i'm really sorry your workers paradise colasped and you are now forced to live in the represive USA.

i hear Canada is nice this time of year(hint)

[rpm]

That's why I listen to Russ Martin. No politics...just good ol wholesome all-american pornstars.

[lord dolf vader]

ya know miko callin blatand fearmongering profiteers ( am radio )

communists seems like a odd use of the word. dumb and patriotic ill give ya.


and really npr dosent espouse communism ( wich as a political theory has a definition ) as much as socialism ( truly related but not the same thing ).



are you using it ( the word communist ) in another way ?


ever notice people with extremly high i.q.s are almost always capitolists.  but people with ultra high i.q.s are almost never capitolists. forest for the trees thing.

[Gunthr]

So tell me. Are they so stupid they do not realise what they are saying?
Or are they so despise their audience and think us such idiots that they believe we would not understand what they are saying?
Or do they just care nothing about what they read aloud as long as they are being paid?

miko

Caveat emptor!

I haven't heard the radio commercials you refer to, but there is a common assumption made by most people in this culture that TV, radio and newspaper ads, commercials, paid political announcements and the like are to be taken with a grain of salt.

The commercials are part of our free market economy - and we are free to choose...

Your alleged expectations of truth in advertising, or even consistency with the personal philosophy of the paid spoksmen, is unrealistic.

Either that, or you just enjoy poking holes in these obvious ironies of culture in a free country... it might be fun to call up the Savage show and back him into a corner with your observations...

Gunthr

[Sandman]

NM

[miko2d]

Martlet: Every time I address a comment to you, you answer it while explaining "this one time" you're reading it, but remember, I'm on ignore".

 If by "every time" you mean this first and only time since I .ignored you, you are certainly correct. If you mean that I have ever read your posts after putting you on ignore, let alone reply to them, you are lying.
 You may well have addressed comments to me which I would not have seen and I often add to my original statements. So what?

Like i said, if you can't tell the difference between an advertisement and an OpEd, then I'm not the least bit surprised you've become the poster boy for liberal propaganda.

 When the same person is claiming directly opposite things in an OpEd and advertisement, that person is a liar. I do not care if he was paid to lie. In their speeches those people often insist that they are honest and cannot be bought. They also say they would not advertise if they did not truky believe in a product.


Dago: Miko, Did you ever wonder if maybe, everyone else disagrees with you

 Hardly "everyone".

Or, if you think everyone is jerk

 I don't. I don't even think everyone is ignorant. When I call someone names, it's personal. I do not believe I've ever said "you all are..." about anything.
 Nayway, just because I caught a couple of scumbags on obvious lie that millions can hear, how come you treat it as if I personally offended you?

While we have never had a shortage of fools saying just this kind of stuff, funny thing is that isn't happened yet.

 People were saying for a long time that socialism in USSR was going to crumble. They even explained why and how. They were not all fools. In fact, the smarter they were, the earlier they predicted the downfall.
 "It" is happening and has been for a long time. The size of government, the relative share of government expenses in GDP, the number of laws and regulations, their intrusiveness,  centralisation, etc. - all those attributes of socialism are growing.

Miko, please tell us a little about yourself...

 While posting here, I've told pretty much all you are asking already. I have quite an impressive credentals, education and experience. Relatively recently I would have said I was very accomplished and successfull in life.

 What does it matter? I always try to explain how I came to my opinions, not just state them. I am always ready to elaborate any details. So you do not have to rely on my creditials to evaluate my statements.
 In this particilar case, one hardly needs much education to understand that a radio show host said contradictory things.

 If credentials would make you take the stuff said on this board seriously, then you are a fool. This board is not a source of education. You do not get education from a chat but from books by people most accomplished in the subject. At best, this board should arouse an interest in particular area of the study by exposing you to the views of different people.

I have to believe you are a man of great accomplishments and deeds to place yourself in judgement of so many and institutions.

 If you believe what you just said, you'll believe anything. So I am channeling the spirit of the great president professor Woodrow Wilson. Just keep it our little secret.


john9001: i'm really sorry your workers paradise colasped and you are now forced to live in the represive USA.

 So you think my dislike for socialism and insessant critique of it means that I love socialism and regret the downfall of Soviet Union. You are an idiot.


lord dolf vader: communists seems like a odd use of the word. dumb and patriotic ill give ya.

 One can be dumb and patriotic while adhering to any political persuasion. Only those who call for more governmental control over economy, production, distribution, private property and other aspects of human life while claiming to be defending the interests of the people and appealing to people for support - those are communists.

ever notice people with extremly high i.q.s are almost always capitolists.  but people with ultra high i.q.s are almost never capitolists. forest for the trees thing.

 You are rising a facinating issue. I have just recenty read a paper that mentioned the same thing. Like bus drivers have more accident with low IQ but also with high IQ - being too bored and distracted, same seems to influence the politicians.

 The hypothesis is that people who are too smart are often incapable of going through years of heavy, persistent, often boring work required to start a successfull business. So they go to academia (which is influenced by leftists). They have theoretical knowlege but have no idea how the world actually works in order to compare the theory with practice and decide which theory makes sense.


Gunthr: Either that, or you just enjoy poking holes in these obvious ironies of culture in a free country...

 If we should not believe what they say for money in the commercials, why should we believe what they say for money in the editorial? That is of course, a rhetorical question.
 So yes, it was an irony of catching them liars saying opposite things withing the same minute.

it might be fun to call up the Savage show and back him into a corner with your observations.

 I will certainly try and if I get through, I will report on the results.

 miko

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by miko2d
 When the same person is claiming directly opposite things in an OpEd and advertisement, that person is a liar. I do not care if he was paid to lie. In their speeches those people often insist that they are honest and cannot be bought. They also say they would not advertise if they did not truky believe in a product.
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You mean to imply that diet Dr. Pepper does not taste more like regular Dr. Pepper?

Originally posted by miko2d
The hypothesis is that people who are too smart are often incapable of going through years of heavy, persistent, often boring work required to start a successfull business. So they go to academia (which is influenced by leftists). They have theoretical knowlege but have no idea how the world actually works in order to compare the theory with practice and decide which theory makes sense. [/B]

 

The hypothesis is wrong, the most intellegent people in the world think just like me.

[lord dolf vader]

thanks for the responses


so is there such a thing as a socialist at all in your way of thinking?

[GRUNHERZ]

I think it's fantastic that we have miko here.  He know everything as he is the only perfect intelligent person on earth able to distinguish between all the lies and propaganda out there, especially with economics. In fact he is the world authority on the subject.  Thank you Miko, I really appreciate you spending time with us mere peons. i mean with your busy schedule fighting aginst all the millions of truly ignorant economists out there ruining the world!

[capt. apathy]

Or are they so despise their audience and think us such idiots that they believe we would not understand what they are saying?

I don't think conservitive radio despises thier audiance.
I think they truly love the gullible audience, who can swallow in one sitting the ideas that "Bush will be good for the economy" and "smart money is on betting against it"

I don't agree with most of your thoughts on the economy (the idea that unrgulated bussiness will do anything other than consentrate the wealth in a few and starve the rest is laughable).  but I have to agree with you on this.  

anyone who can read, can check the paper and see that the price of gold goes up as the economy goes down.  

anyone who tells you that "smart money is in gold", & "the economy is getting better" on the same day is telling you at least one lie