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Offline mora

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« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2003, 03:53:21 AM »

Looks like it went through the wing and the engines were left intact.

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« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2003, 04:25:56 AM »
I at least had assumed it hit an engine, don't know much about missiles, but thought they were heat seeking? That far down range at that alt that wasn't a terrorist with a shoulder mounted arm was it? 8K is WAY up there.

Flap and trailing edge from the left engine to the tip looks all fluffied up though. Shrapnel could start a fire that far out, but who knows.

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« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2003, 09:30:05 AM »
Question:  Will a heat seaking missle explode if it hits a hot-air baloon, or just go through it?

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« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2003, 10:05:29 AM »
I believe the never models are detoned by a proximity fuse. Not sure if it would home into a balloon, but it would propably home to it's burner.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2003, 10:10:46 AM by mora »

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« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2003, 10:13:39 AM »
i believe most anti air missiles have a proximity fuse that blows a shaped ( cone ) of flack, ball bearings ect into the target.



but the sa7 is one cheap missile, possibly just a contact detonation.

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« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2003, 10:17:26 AM »
Yep, it seems to be contact detonated.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/row/sa-7.htm

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« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2003, 10:52:06 AM »
American pilots will have to learn "Afghani approach" on landings. :( Since "the land of free" supplied Afghani "freedom fighters" with Stingers - Soviet planes had to perform aerobatic maneuvers landing in Bagram... Plus several choppers covered the airstrip throwing flares to protect every cargo plane landing or taking off...

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« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2003, 02:57:22 PM »
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Originally posted by Boroda
Since "the land of free" supplied Afghani "freedom fighters" with Stingers


Oh come on, you are still sore about that? It was done in good fun!
What about the time you sent elite Mig17 pilots against us, or supplied vietnamese with weapons?

jesus christ you russians cant take a joke.

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« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2003, 03:09:47 PM »
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Originally posted by Animal
Oh come on, you are still sore about that? It was done in good fun!
What about the time you sent elite Mig17 pilots against us, or supplied vietnamese with weapons?

jesus christ you russians cant take a joke.


LOL :)

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« Last Edit: November 25, 2003, 10:13:10 AM by mora »

Offline Torque

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« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2003, 10:19:32 AM »
Wow that's pretty amazing that the airplane didn't blowup in flight.:aok

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« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2003, 02:00:03 PM »
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jesus christ you russians cant take a joke.


LOL! :D

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« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2003, 02:41:21 PM »
Mora,

Can't view the linked pics...

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« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2003, 03:24:39 PM »
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Oh come on, you are still sore about that? It was done in good fun!
What about the time you sent elite Mig17 pilots against us, or supplied vietnamese with weapons?

jesus christ you russians cant take a joke.


lol

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« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2003, 03:53:52 PM »
"Can't view the linked pics..."

 Me neither.  They're gone.

 BTW Foxnews has a lot of the video of the missile shoot. Thier banner SUX and blocks a lot of the sreen. But I'm amazed at how casual and easy it is for them to do it and get away.  A nearby US helicopter never sees the group, thier large white car or the missile shot. And it's not like the guerrilla's are hiding at the edge of some thick jungle canopy where they can duck easily duck in and vanish into ala Vietnam, Laos or Cambodia.

 I thought the US had some good technogear?  Easily the kind that would see and track the shot and they could then use radio to home the helo's in to the area with?
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