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Offline Ike 2K#

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« on: December 23, 2003, 08:40:50 PM »
Is Yak-9T normally used as a A2G aircraft or an A2A aircraft?

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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2003, 09:00:38 PM »
I use it A2A, cause of its big cannon.  It can be used A2G, but it wont do much damage to anything except light armor, fuel and ammo, barracks, and ack.  Other than that its not much.

Good for A2A cause it turns well, fast, and has the big cannon :)

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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2003, 11:44:11 PM »
In rl it was an a2a air fighter and didn't normally carry ap rounds.

In ah its a decent a2a fighter on the deck.

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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2003, 12:25:57 AM »
I think that any Russian fighter would be sent on GA missions if the need arose, but none of them was used primarily for that - they had the Il-2.

The NS-37 had a big range advantage over other a/c guns but it needed to be used by an expert - no point in 'spraying and praying' with only 32 rounds - and the recoil threw off the aim so it was generally only fired in 3-round bursts. I think it was only issued to the best pilots, because it had a claimed kill rate of one every 30 rounds or so.

Of course, loaded with AP rather than HE it could take out just about any tank in a side or rear attack, but I'm not sure that fighter units would have been issued with that ammo.

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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2003, 12:51:41 AM »
Is the AH Yak-9T equipped with HE or AP ammo??

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« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2003, 01:56:15 AM »
I'm pretty sure the 37 mm has HE.  The 9T is not really meant as a ground attacker.  It's much more of a bomber killer.

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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2003, 04:12:46 AM »
Kweassa, I believe all rounds are equiped with "what's best", meaning that if it hit a tank it's an AP round and if it strikes an airplane or other soft target it's an HE.
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« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2003, 07:31:16 AM »
get 1.7 behind a buff. elevate nose till buff is sighted at top edge of nose(or sight the top of vertical elevator) and let em rip.

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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2003, 12:26:34 AM »
9T is garbage...9U rules ;)

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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2003, 10:56:42 AM »
I have killed Panzers with the 9-T, but used nearly all of the 37mm load to do it. It is effective against thin skinned armor, such as the M8, m16 and M3. It will also take out a Flak Panzer with some persistance. The 37mm has good ballistics, so it's an ideal ride for killing swarms of M3s. However, like the 9U, the engine lasts about 2 minutes after a radiator hit.

Against aircraft, you need to be patient, but the reward is a single hit shootdown. WEP is useless above 4k and low-speed handling isn't very good (typical of Russian types, espacially Yaks). A skilled marksman can bring home 6-8 kills with the limited ammo load. Unskilled shooters (or impatient, for that matter) will be fortunate to get 2. Even more so than the 109s or 9U, the 9T will teach trigger control.

All in all, it is an effective, if not inspiring aircraft.

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« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2003, 02:10:28 AM »
The Yak-9T is a tankkiller. The T stands for tankoviy meaning tank.
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« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2003, 06:17:08 PM »
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Originally posted by GScholz
The Yak-9T is a tankkiller. The T stands for tankoviy meaning tank.


According to my information, it stood for Tyazhelovooruzhenniy = heavily armed.

The Yak-9 was not armoured adequately to survive above the battlefield. That job was intended for the Il-2.

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« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2003, 06:48:54 PM »
My info is the same T = Tyazhelovooruzhenniy = heavily armed.

I believe I read on a forum where Emmanuel Gustin listed a source for this info but I can't remember which forum.

The NS-37 had a low rate of fire, but like the Mk 108 a single hit would destroy an aircraft. The recoil was such that pilots were trained to fire three-round bursts.

The yak 9t was normally flown a2a, without AP rounds. However, like Tony said if needed I am sure any soviet aircraft could be forced into a2g work. The Yak 9t was very vulnerable to ground fire compared to the IL2. The 23mm VYa was the "tank buster" and it wasn’t until ‘43 that some IL2s were equipped with the NS-37.

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« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2003, 06:58:12 PM »
If your info is from "Soviet Combat Aircraft of the Second World War Vol.1, Single-Engined Fighters by Yefim Gordon & Dmitri Khazanov"

You need to read the revisions by Ilya Grinberg:

"Page 143, 2nd column. Yak-9T, T should stand for "Tank" (tankoviy), not for "Tyazelovooruzenniy". A.T. Stepanets is quite clear about the menaing of all of the type suffixes in the Yak fighter programme, and 'T' is for 'tankoviy'."
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« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2003, 07:04:06 PM »
WWII Fact book:

The Yak-9T-37 was an extensive modification of the Yak-9D for use as a "tank buster", with the "T" in the designation standing for "Tankovyi", or "Tank Hunting", using an NS-37 37-millimeter Nudelman-Suranov cannon. This weapon fired through the propeller spinner and could penetrate 48 millimeters (1.9 inches) of armor.
The Yak-9T-37 carried 30 rounds of ammunition for the cannon. The additional ammunition storage dictated reduction of fuel tank capacity to 360 liters (95.6 US gallons). To accommodate the cannon, the cockpit was moved 40 centimeters (1.3 feet) towards the rear. This modification was applied to all Yak-9D production in order to simplify the manufacture of the aircraft. A single 12.7 millimeter machine gun was fitted, mostly for targeting the NS-37 cannon.
The Yak-9T-37 first flew in December 1942, and went into combat in the early summer of 1943. It was used not only for anti-tank operations, but for anti-shipping attacks over the Black Sea.
To take on the bigger German Panther and Tiger tanks, the Yak OKB then designed an even more potent tank-buster, the Yak-9T-45 or Yak-9K, where "K" stood for "Krupnyi Kalibr", or "Heavy Caliber", that featured an NS-P-45 45-millimeter cannon with 15 rounds of ammunition. A 57 millimeter gun was also considered, but never fitted to the Yak-9T.


Seems like you need to revise your book Tony ;)
« Last Edit: December 28, 2003, 07:10:14 PM by GScholz »
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