Author Topic: Black Hawk down (Read 1682 times)

_Schadenfreude_ · « **on:** January 08, 2004, 07:27:23 AM »

Details unclear, casualties...

Rude · « **Reply #1 on:** January 08, 2004, 09:17:39 AM »

Unfortunetly, it won't be last.

kappa · « **Reply #2 on:** January 08, 2004, 09:28:00 AM »

O really.. I thought we were talking the movie...

_Schadenfreude_ · « **Reply #3 on:** January 08, 2004, 11:47:23 AM »

they should have bought a thousand or so of these....

http://www.jed.simonides.org/4x4afv/bravo/buffel_series/buffel-series.html

_Schadenfreude_ · « **Reply #4 on:** January 08, 2004, 11:57:19 AM »

http://www.baxmod.co.za/buffel.htm

better pic, cheap, nasty, but will survive a pmn-2 blast

MJHerman · « **Reply #5 on:** January 08, 2004, 12:32:59 PM »

As I left for the office this morning CNN was reporting it as an "emergency landing" with eight dead.

Was unclear whether it was a result of hostile fire or mechanical problems.

MJHerman · « **Reply #6 on:** January 08, 2004, 12:35:07 PM »

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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
they should have bought a thousand or so of these....

http://www.jed.simonides.org/4x4afv/bravo/buffel_series/buffel-series.html

Out of curiousity, how would an APC have limited casualties suffered in a helicopter crash? I give credit to the South African weapons industry, but I didn't know they could make a Buffel fly

gofaster · « **Reply #7 on:** January 08, 2004, 12:36:34 PM »

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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
http://www.baxmod.co.za/buffel.htm

better pic, cheap, nasty, but will survive a pmn-2 blast

Interesting design, but unfortunately it is too ugly for Americans to be seen riding around in.

_Schadenfreude_ · « **Reply #8 on:** January 08, 2004, 12:53:47 PM »

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Originally posted by MJHerman
Out of curiousity, how would an APC have limited casualties suffered in a helicopter crash? I give credit to the South African weapons industry, but I didn't know they could make a Buffel fly

You drive.....helicopters are too easy to take down with manpads

MJHerman · « **Reply #9 on:** January 08, 2004, 12:56:11 PM »

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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
You drive.....helicopters are too easy to take down with manpads

And lightly armoured, open top APCs are too easy to take out with RPGs and small arms fire.

_Schadenfreude_ · « **Reply #10 on:** January 08, 2004, 12:58:16 PM »

I bow to your obvious superior knowledge gained from years of military experience garnered on the field of battle....

MJHerman · « **Reply #11 on:** January 08, 2004, 01:05:09 PM »

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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
I bow to your obvious superior knowledge gained from years of military experience garnered on the field of battle....

Well thank you. Almost three years to be exact.

If you want to drive around in a Buffel in bulit up areas or out in the countryside where there is plenty of cover and everyone and their cousin has easy access to a variety of weaponary, be my guest.

_Schadenfreude_ · « **Reply #12 on:** January 08, 2004, 01:27:21 PM »

Gosh a whole three years?

MJHerman · « **Reply #13 on:** January 08, 2004, 01:34:21 PM »

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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
Gosh a whole three years?

I assume that any view I have of MY PREFERENCE in terms of military equipment won't be good enough for you, so I'm not going to start a pissing match with you as to whether I am worthy enough to express an opinion on military tactics based on my "whole three years" of military experience.

Had you informed me that you are obviously a very senior current or former member of the military with decades of experience, presumably including years of combat experience fighting insurgents and MOUT, I would have never bothered contributing to this thread.

Yeager · « **Reply #14 on:** January 08, 2004, 01:41:03 PM »

well _Schadenfreude_ at least you didnt end your post with a smiley.

I sense there are many here on this BBS that do smile when they hear such things happening to americans, and some americans smile too. Anything to discredit that Devil Bush and his minions.