Author Topic: What is the price tag of reducing terrorism? (Read 726 times)

Ripsnort · « **on:** January 20, 2004, 07:09:52 PM »

Facts, strictly the facts.

http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/pgtrpt/2002/html/19997.htm

Ripsnort · « **Reply #1 on:** January 20, 2004, 07:33:59 PM »

Maybe strk can give us a number?

Sandman · « **Reply #2 on:** January 20, 2004, 09:11:40 PM »

Hmmm... looks like a steady decline (with a few spikes) since 1987.

crowMAW · « **Reply #3 on:** January 20, 2004, 10:23:12 PM »

Bit premature don't you think Rip...lets see what the '03 report says when it comes out in the Spring. I can tell you that 186 Americans have died from terrorist activity from May to December '03 alone.

Thrawn · « **Reply #4 on:** January 20, 2004, 11:52:38 PM »

That link also show that most people that died on 9/11 weren't American.

Sandman · « **Reply #5 on:** January 20, 2004, 11:59:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
That link also show that most people that died on 9/11 weren't American.

Yes they were! And... the hijackers were from Iraq, damnit!

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #6 on:** January 21, 2004, 12:29:28 AM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
That link also show that most people that died on 9/11 weren't American.

Anyone have the actual breakdown? I think 'most' is pushing it.

I seem to recall roughly 80% of the total being US citizens (85% if we count Canada)

Thrawn · « **Reply #7 on:** January 21, 2004, 12:56:40 AM »

I was pretty freaken surprised when I saw the number myself.

My source is Rip's link which is a US Department of State site, "Released by the Office of the Coordinator for Counterterrorism".

1,440 US citizens died as a result of international terroism in 2001.

"As of October 29, 2003, 2,995 people were presumed dead as a result of all four September 11 attacks. This includes the casualties at the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, on the airplanes and the hijackers."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11,_2001_Terrorist_Attack/Casualties#Casualties

2,995 - 1440 = 1,555 (non-American casualites).

At least that's how it reads to me.

Urchin · « **Reply #8 on:** January 21, 2004, 12:57:34 AM »

$4.95. Half off sale.

Urchin · « **Reply #9 on:** January 21, 2004, 12:59:19 AM »

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Originally posted by crowMAW
Bit premature don't you think Rip...lets see what the '03 report says when it comes out in the Spring. I can tell you that 186 Americans have died from terrorist activity from May to December '03 alone.

Not quite sure "terrorist activity" is the right word to use. Maybe guerrilla activity or something. Be somewhat different if they were on our soil shooting at Americans, but since we are over on their soil, I'm not sure it would be considered "terrorism".

capt. apathy · « **Reply #10 on:** January 21, 2004, 01:04:52 AM »

wow, look at how high it was during the reagan/bush sr years. I wonder how low we could get it if we used some of the funds being spent on Iraq for fighting terrorism.

Murdr · « **Reply #11 on:** January 21, 2004, 03:04:51 AM »

Since 'price tag' was brought up, I did some digging to find some perspective. The New York State Finance Committee estimated the economic impact of the 9/11 terrorist attacks through 2003 as $639 Billion to the US, and $22 Billion to NY state, as sited by a GAO report to congress.

crowMAW · « **Reply #12 on:** January 21, 2004, 07:01:45 AM »

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Originally posted by Urchin
Not quite sure "terrorist activity" is the right word to use. Maybe guerrilla activity or something. Be somewhat different if they were on our soil shooting at Americans, but since we are over on their soil, I'm not sure it would be considered "terrorism".

The State Department numbers include terrorist casualities world wide...the attacks do not have to be on US soil. Further, they include guerrilla type activities of Palistinians against Isrealis. The State Department set the rules of counting...if we exclude the guerrilla activities in Iraq, then the PLO et-al cannot be labled terrorists.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #13 on:** January 21, 2004, 09:10:18 AM »

Wow. Didnt know the breakdown was that even.

Virage · « **Reply #14 on:** January 21, 2004, 09:13:43 AM »

I guess iraq fell into the memory hole.