A world without the US

[Kieran]

Here's the part of the Gscholz logic (well, just one part) that doesn't quite compute...

If we give billions of dollars in aid, and presumably Israel buys weapons with that money - and you can certainly argue that's the case - how does it compute we haven't given military aid?

[weaselsan]

Originally posted by Toad
The UN IS there. The US presently LEADS the UN Command - Republic of Korea.

Of course, we're about the only ones with any significant number of troops there, but it's still a "blue flag" operation technically.

The last of the "police Actions" by the UN, er' US...it is now referred to as "coalition building"...a coalition is when Sri Lanka says "OK were on your side. Actually the Gross domestic product of SK is about 50 times greater than NK. Did you Know for example that the US spends several Billion Dollars more per Year than the Gross domestic product of NK on personal water craft.
I think it may be about time for SK to defend themselves.

[weaselsan]

Originally posted by Staga
Heh I got big grin on my face everytime some american whines against Vetoes made in SC; After all it's mostly you who has used them  

We don't whine about security counsel vetos...we ignore them.

[weaselsan]

When the Whiney SC refuses to act on their own resolutions.

[Pei]

Originally posted by NUKE
That US General was correct IMO, since China flooded into NK and was openly attacking us, we needed to be able to go straight after China and attack them at the points where they were coming from . We should have declared war on China IMO, then applied whatever force needed until they got out of NK.

We were fighting China anyway...we just couldn't attack the Chinese past the Yalu river because of the ROE.

1.34 million Chinese troops crossed the Yalu River from Ji'an. We already were fighting China with almost all China could muster, yet we let them have a free pass until they got into Korea. That's just idiodic.

China didn't flood into NK until the UN forces were racing north and McArthur started suggesting they go all the way to Peking. Perhaps China felt the need to pre-emptively strike at the danger?

[weaselsan]

Originally posted by Pei
China didn't flood into NK until the UN forces were racing north and McArthur started suggesting they go all the way to Peking. Perhaps China felt the need to pre-emptively strike at the danger?

McCarther wanted to go to Peking???????........SOURCE

[Capt. Pork]

My Tummy hurts.... I blame the US and, indirectly, the UN, for not censuring the pain in time.

[Capt. Pork]

Korean girls make the best Porn starlets.

[Pei]

Originally posted by Capt. Pork
Korean girls make the best Porn starlets.

SOURCE????

[Capt. Pork]

Years of research, my good man.

I'd post some corraborative links, but we all know what the Skuzzinator would say about that.

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by weaselsan
McCarther wanted to go to Peking???????........SOURCE

RECALL OF GENERAL DOUGLAS MACARTHUR (1951)
Following World War II, the Korean peninsula was divided, supposedly temporarily, along the 38th parallel, with a Russian-allied communist government in the north and a pro-Western government in the south. On June 24, 1950, armies of North Korea flooded across the dividing line, and the Truman administration quickly committed troops to a United Nations effort aimed at pushing the North Koreans back across the 38th parallel.

General Douglas MacArthur, then in charge of the Allied occupation of Japan, assumed command of the United Nations troops, which were soon pushed back to a small perimeter around the southern port city of Pusan. Then, in a brilliant maneuver, MacArthur simultaneously broke out of the Pusan perimeter and launched an amphibious landing at Inchon. Soon UN forces had not only reached the 38th parallel but were crossing it and heading north toward the Yalu River, the boundary between China and North Korea.

MacArthur conceived of the Korean war as a holy war; he kept talking about "unleashing Chiang Kai-shek," then holed up in his island fortress on Formosa, and launching atomic strikes, all of which made Truman, the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the other UN countries involved very nervous. For Harry Truman and the Joint Chiefs, Korea was an exercise in containment, but that made it a very frustrating war for many Americans. It meant that in this war the United States was not aiming for total victory, but for more limited, and more ambiguous, results.

There is a tradition in American government that the military is subordinate to the civilian leaders. Generals do not make statements about policy without first clearing them with their superiors. But MacArthur, used to ruling in Japan, ignored the chain of command, and began writing letters about what the United States should do in Korea. He sent a letter to the Veterans of Foreign Wars saying that Formosa would be a fine place to launch an aggressive campaign against China. After the Chinese entered the war -- something MacArthur had assured Truman would never happen -- MacArthur wrote to Speaker of the House Joe Martin saying the United States could only win by an all-out war, and this meant bombing the Manchurian bases. So Harry Truman fired him, and evoked a firestorm of criticism from conservatives who believed Truman to be soft on communism.

[Capt. Pork]

North Korea hosted the biggest pro wrestling event(a la WWF) in history, with over 100,000 spectators.

It must be true. I just heard it as a factoid on Monster Garage.

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Originally posted by lazs2
face it dowding... you believe that imperialist little island of yours would be good for the world....  even tho it would mean everyone drove on the wrong side of the road.

lazs

Hehe would you like a bagel with your Extra frothy Lazsuccino, Dowding?

[Capt. Pork]

I love the smell of Lazs in the morning.

It smells like...

Dowding...

[Dowding]

Heh. I'm not going to get into another 'What the UK did for us' slanging match. It's a bit boring now.

Thanks for the Laughs Lazs. "Impreialist pig-dog..." lol