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Offline SirLoin

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« on: March 04, 2004, 12:39:46 PM »
Why?
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2004, 12:43:22 PM »
Simple physics.
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2004, 12:47:18 PM »
Pie in the sky.
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2004, 12:49:21 PM »
Cause you shouldnt pay attention to what is going on down here.
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2004, 01:56:35 PM »
Well, taking in Physics, it would be a lot easier to get to Mars.  However, your window will be a lot smaller.


Plus to go from the moon, you'd need to get everything up there first.
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2004, 02:04:49 PM »
we could ship all the welfare suck butts up to the moonbase and finally get something for our tax dollar - think of the size of that workforce - problem is it'd be a efficient as the average drivers license bureau, maybe the lower gravity would help them move faster :)
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2004, 02:13:30 PM »
The reason the moon might be a logical part of a Mars expedition is fuel.

There is some inconclusive evidence that the martian poles may have ice within a few feet of the surface.  Ice can be melted, then split through electrolysis to form hydrogen and oxygen.  The hydrogen and oxygen can be seperately compressed and cooled to make fuel.  Additionally, liquid oxygen can be stored as part of supplies for reinvigorating air.

Liquid Hydrogen and Liquid Oxygen are bulky, difficult things to launch into orbit as payload from earth, not to mention expensive to dedicate rockets to.

Since fuel and oxidizer would account for a significant number of the launches, mining them on the moon would be logical.
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2004, 02:15:44 PM »
BTW, a followup.  The International Space Station is not a good place to launch a mission from.  It is in a bad orbit for it.  The ISS orbit is a compromise orbit that would allow both Florida and Baikonour launches to reach it, but both sites pay a penalty in weight to get to it.  The original Space Station Freedom design from the 80s was supposed to be in a 28 degree orbit that would allow a Florida launch to get the maximum amount of equatorial boost possible, maximizing payload.  Instead, it is at 56 degrees (or close to).
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2004, 02:22:53 PM »
Dont forget there is talk about Hydrogen 5  on the moon which is an excellent source for fuel too!
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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2004, 02:27:58 PM »
Didn't Martin Landau teach us anything about the dangers of moon bases?
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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2004, 02:47:53 PM »
Yes gofaster,..never send an actor to the moon.

Colonizing the moon, with the idea of going to Mars is a good idea.  The Moon is too close to Earth, so when Earth goes, it probably will take the Moon with it.
Mars is far enough away to survive it.
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2004, 02:55:40 PM »
kerry said he wants the next moon landing to be on earth , whatever that means , but hey , he's a "war hero", so he must be right.
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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2004, 03:36:05 PM »
the whole mars thing is just a distraction.

set a goal with a date so far ahead that you couldn't possibly still be in office when it comes time to live up to it.
 
get all the space exploration nuts excited over the new 'project' to distract them cuts in space programs already in place.
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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2004, 03:40:49 PM »
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the whole mars thing is just a distraction.

set a goal with a date so far ahead that you couldn't possibly still be in office when it comes time to live up to it.
 
get all the space exploration nuts excited over the new 'project' to distract them cuts in space programs already in place.


hey , you talking about JFK right?.."we will send a man to the moon in this decade"
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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2004, 04:52:58 PM »
did Kenedy cut spending to the space program after setting that goal or step the process?

there is jsut one way to tell a honest goal from a political distraction.
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