Damage from Warming Becoming 'Irreversible'

[ravells]

not my rights and not my country, mate.

But it is my planet. You lot are putting out 25% of the pollution here. And you have no intention of stopping.

The real irony is that America has become so 'anti smoking' whilst smoking this planet to death.

Do the planet a favour and sign the Kyoto protocol.  But of course you can't because while we're debating how many angels can fit on a pin head, this planet is going to hell.

ravs

[ravells]

gator! put some flames on an electric car!

I'm sure they'll look just as good.

btw, I'm buying one in a couple of months.

Ravs

[GtoRA2]

Rav
 That rights thing really was not aimed at you.

 Still I can see the point, I do not have a problem with cleaner burning cars ETC, as long as we are not forced to give up muscle cars/ old cars that are in good shape. They really acount for very little of the polution.


Are cars really the problem or is it industry that is causing it?


Flames on a  electric car? Without a real V8 rumbling flames don't me **** =P   That would make me a RICER!

[Wlfgng]

Americans do love fast, big, gas guzzling cars...don't they?

wha??? this has to be explained?

sigh.. you don't get it then.. maybe if you lived here and experienced it you would...

when I was a young lad I though girls were 'icky' too...
smelled funny, used up tons of resources...
until I experienced one   then I went "AHHH.. now I get it"

[ravells]

Wlfgang: and then we had AIDS and it was a death sentence to sleep with people indiscriminately.

Don't get me wrong, I like lovely cars, except we have come to a point that cars have to be no polluting. God knows we have the technology to do it.

Gatr: I think it's a bit of both, cars make lots of money so they have lots of money to put into advertising...so we tend to fall into this 'well it's good for my lifestyle' option.

It would be such a pity if we had the tech to do something about the destruction of humanity on this planet and chose not to do it, because we were brainwashed by advertising and peer group pressure.

Ravs

[Frogm4n]

You have to understand that alot of men in america have inferiority complex's. It reminds me of M.A.D. As soon as the guy next door buys a bigger truck/suv then what you have; you trade in your car that your still making payments on in order to get a bigger one, with a hemi!

[ravells]

This is in relation to the size of their......

well, there's right wing americans for you.

Ravs

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Karnak
change   Futhermore, funding fights don't carry anything like the weight into research conclusions that you are insinuating.

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I'm assuming you have facts and data to back that up. Waiting...

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Frogm4n
You have to understand that alot of men in america have inferiority complex's. It reminds me of M.A.D. As soon as the guy next door buys a bigger truck/suv then what you have; you trade in your car that your still making payments on in order to get a bigger one, with a hemi!

Sounds like alittle envy there, son

[VFJACKAL]

Originally posted by Frogm4n
You have to understand that alot of men in america have inferiority complex's. It reminds me of M.A.D. As soon as the guy next door buys a bigger truck/suv then what you have; you trade in your car that your still making payments on in order to get a bigger one, with a hemi!

You are a true piece of Work

I drive a Vette everyday back and forth to work...1.77 a gallon at present for Premium Unleaded and it's getting 28.7 miles per gallon at this time...I'll give you pics if you wish to prove that.

V8 350 hp and it's not that I need it to show my manlyness...ITS BECAUSE I CAN DRIVE IT....Course...If Mommy and Daddy were buying my ride...I would prolly have to settle for a HEMI anyway.

Your amazing....This lil gem was entertaining as well.....


Thats the problem with alot of christian thought. They never want to do anything to help mankind. They dont care about the enviroment or if a spieces will go extinct. Its all gods will in their eyes. Same kind of thought leads people to hijack planes and crash them into buildings because they also think that is gods will.


At least I know..beyond a doubt right now...That if there is a golf course in heaven....You wont be someone Ill see there.

[ravells]

Good Jackal...nice to see you not getting excited.

Ravs

[lazs2]

karnak.. and all... you guys crack me up..  cars, guns, coffee, women... I do a lot of things that may or may not be good for me or the rest of planet... you haven't shown me much proof about the planet thing tho... the comparrison to iraq had one flaw... but a major one..   You are taking away my freedom to do as I please based on your junk science.

as for the prius... I don't care how "practial" it is... I don't like practical cars... they are boring... Get it?   NO FUN..

but go ahead... do whatever.. the main problem is overpopulation.. reduce polution per capita by 25% and then add 50% population... eventually we will simply lose out freedom and still be polluted...  more likely... the next superflu will thin out the population by killing off about half..

the surviors will have plenty of resources to go around and any damage to the planet that may have been caused will heal.... and.... I won't have to listen to you whiny little socialist busybodies.

or... we find a new planet to use up.   worked for the plains indians.

Win/win.

lazs

[Wlfgng]

worked for the plains indians.

dunno about that.. I'm still waiting for my piece of land..

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Originally posted by Ripsnort

One of the great benefits of a free press is that it affords everyone an opportunity to access the news about the events of our times, but one of its great drawbacks is that it permits groups with hidden agendas to mask their goals by manipulating public opinion and policy. With freedom comes the responsibility to be not merely informed, but to be able to discern truth from propaganda.

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Yup, no hidden "keep on driving, the environment is fine" agenda there.

[lazs2]

wolfgang... yep... worked for the plains indians till someone bigger came along... we should just use stuff up and move on just like they did till someone bigger comes along.

population is the problem.... nothing else.  Nothing is a solution so long as population grows.   Unless we move, of course.   I don't want to give up my rights and end up like a third world country like england or something...  lets just continue to do what we want and the rest of the world can go pound sand.

a prious is not a solution for me... heck... I don't even see the problem that such a ridiculous solution is meant to solve.

lazs