Author Topic: Appeasement Works (Read 1345 times)

Goth · « **on:** April 02, 2004, 07:30:02 AM »

Habu · « **Reply #1 on:** April 02, 2004, 07:58:20 AM »

It is interesting that they found another potentially deadly bomb (imagine a high speed train derailment) after the change in government and the new government's decision to back off from the war on terrorism.

I guess the moral of the story is you cannot appease terrorists. If you are a soft target and they have the means to they will try to wreck havoc in your country.

Spain does not have the best history in its treatment of Muslims. After all they booted them all out and shut down all the mosques back a few hundred years ago. I am sure for that reason they will always be a target.

Lucky no one had to die this time.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #2 on:** April 02, 2004, 08:19:40 AM »

Lets wait a moment and see whats really going on before passing judgement. However if it is true, is anyone really surprised, we all know appeasement of evil in any form never works and it never will...

I want people to know that I lost a friend in GScholz over some rash and insensitive comments I made in a moment of selfish outrage over the Spanish election results last month, and that was and is painful for me. Yet in some ways I'm even more troubled by his apparent quick turn to denial over what seems to have happend now, for that's a far bigger problem for us all than even losing a friend. How does that saying go, "He who does not learn from history is doomed to repeat it."

SLO · « **Reply #3 on:** April 02, 2004, 08:20:32 AM »

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Originally posted by Habu

Spain does not have the best history in its treatment of Muslims. After all they booted them all out and shut down all the mosques back a few hundred years ago. I am sure for that reason they will always be a target.

Lucky no one had to die this time.

didn't the Muslims INVADE spain

Naso · « **Reply #4 on:** April 02, 2004, 08:22:41 AM »

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Originally posted by Habu
It is interesting that they found another potentially deadly bomb (imagine a high speed train derailment) after the change in government and the new government's decision to back off from the war on terrorism.

I guess the moral of the story is you cannot appease terrorists. If you are a soft target and they have the means to they will try to wreck havoc in your country.

Spain does not have the best history in its treatment of Muslims. After all they booted them all out and shut down all the mosques back a few hundred years ago. I am sure for that reason they will always be a target.

Lucky no one had to die this time.

IIRC the new Spain government announced that Spain would have "back off" from War on Iraq not from war on terror.

And I dont see what you call appease to terrorists.

Habu · « **Reply #5 on:** April 02, 2004, 08:26:11 AM »

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Originally posted by Naso
IIRC the new Spain government announced that Spain would have "back off" from War on Iraq not from war on terror.

And I dont see what you call appease to terrorists.

Same difference.

Did you not read the terrorists remarks the next day about how they were going to leave Spain alone after that?

I am too lazy to google them up for you and I thind someone as obviously uninformed as you should do the research anyway as you may learn something.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #6 on:** April 02, 2004, 08:26:41 AM »

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Originally posted by Naso
IIRC the new Spain government announced that Spain would have "back off" from War on Iraq not from war on terror.

And I dont see what you call appease to terrorists.

The muslims terrorists explict goual was to seperate Spain from the Iraq coalition, they succeded wonderfully.

If this bomb was installed by Muslim terrorists what would be the good of continuing your denial, other than perhaps ego preservation?

AKIron · « **Reply #7 on:** April 02, 2004, 08:53:34 AM »

Words without actions are worthless, time will tell.

beet1e · « **Reply #8 on:** April 02, 2004, 08:57:47 AM »

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Originally posted by Habu
I guess the moral of the story is you cannot appease terrorists. If you are a soft target and they have the means to they will try to wreck havoc in your country.

Indeed.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #9 on:** April 02, 2004, 09:44:30 AM »

Neville would be proud.

Withdrawing your troops from what is perceieved in the region as an anti-Muslim war following a terrorist attack is appeasement no matter how you want to butter it up.

Thrawn · « **Reply #10 on:** April 02, 2004, 11:31:06 AM »

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Originally posted by Habu
Same difference.

Did you not read the terrorists remarks the next day about how they were going to leave Spain alone after that?

I am too lazy to google them up for you and I thind someone as obviously uninformed as you should do the research anyway as you may learn something.

Yeah those were the same terrorists that claimed responsibility for the power outage on the eastern seaboard.

Heheh, thier credibility is 0.

Frogm4n · « **Reply #11 on:** April 02, 2004, 11:49:10 AM »

The war in iraq has nothing to do with the war on terrorism.
Iraqis were not blowing themselves up in allahs name. They were from afghan. and saudi arabia.

Americans still cannot seperate the war with iraq with the war on terrorism. We invaded iraq because we thought they violated a UN resolution or something.

Goth · « **Reply #12 on:** April 02, 2004, 12:04:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
The war in iraq has nothing to do with the war on terrorism.
Iraqis were not blowing themselves up in allahs name. They were from afghan. and saudi arabia.

Americans still cannot seperate the war with iraq with the war on terrorism. We invaded iraq because we thought they violated a UN resolution or something.

No, according to your earlier expert opinion, we invaded for oil. Keep your stories straight.

Frogm4n · « **Reply #13 on:** April 02, 2004, 12:16:35 PM »

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Originally posted by Goth
No, according to your earlier expert opinion, we invaded for oil. Keep your stories straight.

I have never said that.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #14 on:** April 02, 2004, 12:17:16 PM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
Yeah those were the same terrorists that claimed responsibility for the power outage on the eastern seaboard.

Heheh, thier credibility is 0.

So now the madrid bombings werent done by muslim terrorists? You arent saying that, are you?

Thrawn I hope you are just confudsing your news stories on this one. There was one where one wacky group accepted rssponsibilty after the atacks, they lack credibilty as you said. However CNN reported that an al qaeda linked terror website in December spoke about attacks in Spain aimed at seperating spain from the Iraq coalition. Moreover Spanish authorities arrested a man who eariler in the year said that blood would flow excatly at the train station hit hardest by the attacks. These two are far more credible and a durect link to goals aimed at seperating Spain from teh Iraq coalition.

Whether any of US HERE think that iraq is tied into terror war is probably irrelevant, what is clear is that the islamic terrorists sure think see it that way and by giving up in iraq the new spanish government will be giving in to the terrorists...

I urge our european readers to be careful about using your great train system this following year, especilaly if you have elections coming up.... Whatver you may think and whatver fancy rationalization we apply here, the terrorists wont be so nuanced in their reflections. To them, spain has showed THEM that this tactic wins results in europe, they will doubtless try again... Good luck.

Peace in our time, indeed...