Author Topic: Appeasement Works (Read 1346 times)

Goth · « **Reply #30 on:** April 02, 2004, 01:20:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
International terrorim and the war with iraq have nothing to do with each other.
Spain is a target because it is an easy one. Security in southern europe is not the greatest. Up untill 3/11 i would say that italy, spain and a few other countrys thought they would not be targets.
What scares me is the olympic games in greece. Greece, where you can buy off the entire police force for 10 US dollars.

One point of view

And another

And I am sure we can unearth a dozen more instances that Saddam was backing terrorists.

On one hand I would like to disagree with you about Greece, but I am afraid that what you say there is true. I hope that the spirit of the Olympics will remain untouched, and that the world can unite in a peaceful competition. Damn, I sound like am optimist.

Frogm4n · « **Reply #31 on:** April 02, 2004, 01:22:11 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Maybe to you, but the muslim terrorists would disagree.

We are dealing with terrorists/guerillas there now, because our troops are easy targets. The reasons for going to war had nothing to do with it though.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #32 on:** April 02, 2004, 01:24:15 PM »

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
We are dealing with terrorists/guerillas there now, because our troops are easy targets. The reasons for going to war had nothing to do with it though.

So why did non-Iraqi terrorists attack in Spain and ask that Spain leave Iraq?

Munkii · « **Reply #33 on:** April 02, 2004, 01:31:04 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
So why did non-Iraqi terrorists attack in Spain and ask that Spain leave Iraq?

One reason could be said, with Spain and the Coalitions involvement in Iraq a hardline Muslim regime (i.e. Taliban) is less likely to get into power as opposed to a softer Muslim regime. If they can get Spain, and ultimately the rest of the coalition forces out of Iraq, they could help install a "friendlier" government for themselves. Al Queada, and other terrorist organizations didn't really step up the attacks on the Coalition forces until most of the Baath party was eliminated. It could be looked at as they were waiting for them to be taken completely out before trying to sway opinion against the invaders.

This is all speculation, and none of us really will ever know unless we became a radical Islamic jihadist.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #34 on:** April 02, 2004, 01:32:40 PM »

You see how Iraq has a lot to do the terror war now...

Munkii · « **Reply #35 on:** April 02, 2004, 01:37:33 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
You see how Iraq has a lot to do the terror war now...

No, the terrorists wouldn't have even given two ****s about Iraq had we not invaded.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #36 on:** April 02, 2004, 02:13:15 PM »

So you are saying that Iraq today is not part of the war on terror even though terrprists are killing people because of Iraq?

Naso · « **Reply #37 on:** April 02, 2004, 03:55:09 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
You see how Iraq has a lot to do the terror war now...

NOW is the keyword.

Naso · « **Reply #38 on:** April 02, 2004, 04:00:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Habu
I am too lazy to google them up for you and I thind someone as obviously uninformed as you should do the research anyway as you may learn something.

I may be sometime so upset to let personal attacks slip under my finghers and bypass the usual re-reading of my posts.

You seem to have it as standard, personaly, or nation-wide.

Naso · « **Reply #39 on:** April 02, 2004, 04:07:43 PM »

I must stay calm, and be rational.

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The main difference between the majority of Europeans posters and the majority of US posters here is in a basic fact:

the perception about the War, invasion, call as you want, of Iraq.

In the US point of view, Iraq war is part of war on terror.

In the Euro point of view Iraq war IS NOT part of war on terror.

Understanding this is a good start to find a common ground to start discuss, and stop pissing each other.

Unless someone here have a personal agenda to create new enemies.

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #40 on:** April 02, 2004, 04:15:24 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
The muslims terrorists explict goual was to seperate Spain from the Iraq coalition, they succeded wonderfully.

If this bomb was installed by Muslim terrorists what would be the good of continuing your denial, other than perhaps ego preservation?

90% of the spanish population opposed war in Iraq. The government screwed themselves even more when they tried to cover it up and blame it on the ETA.

Are you suggesting that 90% of the Spanigh population, or anyone that's opposed the war, is a terrorist sympathizer?

Munkii · « **Reply #41 on:** April 02, 2004, 05:33:34 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
So you are saying that Iraq today is not part of the war on terror even though terrprists are killing people because of Iraq?

Yes I'm saying that, because it isn't part of the war on Iraq. If there were Iraq's blowing themselves up in our cities or our train stations (no offense to our Spanish neighbors) then they would be part. As it is, it is non Iraqius blowing up the civilians, and Iraquis and other groups blowing up our combatants. Therefore they are not terrorists, but resistance.

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #42 on:** April 02, 2004, 05:50:30 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
So you are saying that Iraq today is not part of the war on terror even though terrprists are killing people because of Iraq?

Only because we set the precedent.
-SW

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #43 on:** April 02, 2004, 05:55:20 PM »

Muslim extremists are mulitantional, and it was muslim extremists who blew up the trains in madrid, it was muslim extremists who posted on their websites in December that they would attack attack spain in order to break it frok the coalition.

Why did the muslim extremists attack Spain? Why did muslim extremists explicityly threaten Spain with terror on the basi of Spain being part of the Iraq coalition. You know why.

Because the terrorists see Iraq as part of the war on terror, whatver we think is probably irrelevant. The Terrorists clearly see it that way. Iraq is a part of war on terror.

BTW notice how Munkii has legitimized the Iraq terrorists who he himselef has stated want to put in an opreessiove extremist muslim regime in Iraq and have killed hundreds of innocent Iraqi civilans as some sort of freedom fighters... I think thats sad..

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #44 on:** April 02, 2004, 05:57:23 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
The Terrorists clearly see it that way. Iraq is a part of war on terror.

Yup, because we made them see it that way. So, we really have ourselves to blame for the terrorist attack in Spain.
-SW