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Offline ramzey

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« on: April 07, 2004, 12:28:54 PM »
well, looks like we start destroying sanctuaries:(

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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2004, 12:31:31 PM »
Good!
If they use those building to hide in and shoot marines.
I say drop bombs on all of em.
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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2004, 12:32:58 PM »
"SANCTUARY! SANCTUARY!" - Homer Simpson

"Oh Lord, why did I ever teach him that word?" - Reverend Lovejoy
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2004, 12:40:40 PM »
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well, looks like we start destroying sanctuaries:(


Looks like the enemy is using sanctuaries as firebases.

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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2004, 12:50:31 PM »
LOL you know when they do all that kneeling and bending over?
thats when they should shoot em right in the arse:eek:

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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2004, 01:02:06 PM »
OH MY COD!
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2004, 01:12:53 PM »
lol @ homer.
Yup..those guys are in paradise arguing about why thier cleric lied to them..

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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2004, 01:55:25 PM »
When the insurgents respect the religious buildings enough not to fire from them, Im sure coalition troops wont have any reason to fire on them.

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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2004, 02:12:35 PM »
If it is used by combatants, then it is a legitimate target.

The fact is that almost any object in Iraq is used by combatants.

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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2004, 02:19:33 PM »
BOMB THE LIVING watermelon OUT OF THEM!

They've had their chance to get the Hell out of Dodge....

Now its do or die
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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2004, 02:20:34 PM »
Monte Cassino of 2004.  If they holed up in it, bomb it, destroy it whatever it takes.  

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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2004, 02:22:35 PM »
Its an interesting parallel throughout history at work here. People are under the impression that churches and places of worship are immune from firebombing during war - but its a pretty effective strategy of terror used throughout Europe during the 17th and 18th century to burn people alive while inside of churches. THey are by no means immune to the ravages of war. Especially if they have snipers inside.....


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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2004, 02:31:57 PM »
I look at it this way, buildings are man made objects and what they are used for are defined by man.

Once a man with a gun starts shooting at others from that building, the defination of the building changes from whatever it was to whatever is appropriate for a shooter to be hiding in.

I.E., no Mosque was damaged in the raid.  A building with people shooting our people was damaged or destroyed.
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« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2004, 02:37:36 PM »
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I look at it this way, buildings are man made objects and what they are used for are defined by man.

Once a man with a gun starts shooting at others from that building, the defination of the building changes from whatever it was to whatever is appropriate for a shooter to be hiding in.

I.E., no Mosque was damaged in the raid.  A building with people shooting our people was damaged or destroyed.


Totally agreed.

Apparently, though, in the minds of some, god and an armed man can bunk together.

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« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2004, 02:37:37 PM »
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I look at it this way, buildings are man made objects and what they are used for are defined by man.

Once a man with a gun starts shooting at others from that building, the defination of the building changes from whatever it was to whatever is appropriate for a shooter to be hiding in.

I.E., no Mosque was damaged in the raid.  A building with people shooting our people was damaged or destroyed.


That may all be true in the eyes of the Marines and US Army who took out the position.  From a military standpoint or "rule of war" standpoint I completely agree that a mosque, church, synagogue, school, hospital, etc. loses any "immunity" the moment the enemy uses it as a firebase.

That said, the political fallout on the ground in Iraq will be negative, i.e., "Those Americans have no respect for our holy places".  So regardless of whether or not a mosque is a legitimate military target, the PR battle on this one will be lost on the ground in Iraq.

Fortunately, fighting the PR battle is not one which should be the responsibility of the troops but rather the politicians...but if only life could be so simple...