Author Topic: sally lieber democrat district 22... (Read 681 times)

strk · « **Reply #15 on:** April 20, 2004, 09:43:52 PM »

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Originally posted by wklink
Yeah, that will help STRK.

What is your opinion on this? Or are you just trolling to see who rises to the occasion. An Ex Post Facto law is unconstitutional. It can't be any more plain than what the constitution says.

What will be next, manditory upgrades on wiring in all houses built before 1980? I can see how some people will probably not be able to afford that. Who will help? Uncle Sugar I suppose with low cost home improvement grants. I suppose a small surcharge on all home mortgages can contribute to the cause of that.

Hows about manditory removal of all lead paint from houses built before 1960? Not covering, absolute removal of all paint. Think of the children. Think of the humanity. Think of the cost. Oh wait, only rich people live in old houses. Only rich people drive older cars.

Lets just idiotproof the entire world. It will be pretty bland but hey, we will all be bored to the age of 90 together.

I agree with Lazs, especially if we are talking about cars that people have rebuilt. I think Gunslingers jeep costs are ridiculous too. All the new cars have computers and fuel injection and emissions controls, and there are far more newer cars on the road.

Lazs is wrong about the Prius though. Not that I have one, they are ugly as hell. The hybrid engine is a no brainer though imo. Ford has a suv coming out this summer that gets 40 mpg and has 4wd with a hybrid engine.

Montezuma · « **Reply #16 on:** April 20, 2004, 10:43:07 PM »

Why wouldn't a stock, perfectly maintained, 77 corvette pass a modern emissions test? Just askin'

Lizking · « **Reply #17 on:** April 20, 2004, 10:47:19 PM »

You need to move from the land of the fruits and nuts, Laz.

storch · « **Reply #18 on:** April 20, 2004, 10:53:09 PM »

1973 2002 tii immediately comes to mind as something cool from the 70's as does a 1972 442 or a 1970 TA or a 1968 Z28 with the 302 or or or

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #19 on:** April 20, 2004, 11:47:02 PM »

Seriously. Who buys junk from the 70's?

type_char · « **Reply #20 on:** April 20, 2004, 11:51:49 PM »

Well I can understand that this law might piss some people off but what are you doing about it? *****ing on a game BBS? Why dont you make them change it by getting some people together and petitioning this stupid law. Better yet, drive your 30 year old free flow 500 HP monster around town anyways.

type_char · « **Reply #21 on:** April 20, 2004, 11:53:24 PM »

Classic.

NUKE · « **Reply #22 on:** April 21, 2004, 12:04:04 AM »

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Originally posted by vorticon
we dont need helmet or seatbelt laws cause if your stupid enough to go without you get what you deserve

of course theres no laws against someone marketing a fake smog control mechanism designed specificly for those cars...loopholes = good

The reasoning behind those laws is that the injured drive up healthcare and insurance costs.

I don't agree with the laws..... in a "free" market, heathcare and insurance costs would regulate themselves. Seatbelt and helmet laws are just more interference with personal rights and free markets.

The more government tries to regulate a market, the worse it usually gets for everyone.

Lizking · « **Reply #23 on:** April 21, 2004, 12:29:24 AM »

Nuke, it is not a free market. Insurance is required.

Montezuma · « **Reply #24 on:** April 21, 2004, 01:13:43 AM »

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Originally posted by storch
1973 2002 tii immediately comes to mind as something cool from the 70's as does a 1972 442 or a 1970 TA or a 1968 Z28 with the 302 or or or

1974 is the magical year. There are a *few* cool cars from then, like the 914 I drove for a while.

Will some gearhead please step forward and answer my question as to whether a well maintained 74+ car with cats can pass the CA smog test?

I do agree with Lazs though that the number of 30+ year old cars being driven long distances daily in CA is very small and that this is probably a dumb idea.

What is the bill number?

storch · « **Reply #25 on:** April 21, 2004, 06:24:07 AM »

right. '74. brain fart. *looks for bottle of memory enhancement supplements*.

lazs2 · « **Reply #26 on:** April 21, 2004, 08:16:51 AM »

not wearing seatbelts and helmets may cost money? uhh... how bout your insurance company ask you if you do either and charge accordingly.. if money is so important with insurance and healthcare how bout doing something worthwhile like tort/malpractice reform?

why are people allowed to hike and swim? they cost billions in healthcare every year? smoking? overeating? not taking your vitamins? not taking a nap in the afternoon? cursing? lets just go ask your mom what she thinks you should be able to do shall we?

yeah.. I need to get out of california and leave it to the women and girly men... couple more years to retirement... watching my real estate get to the point that I can cash out and have a nice place somewhere warm like nevada or nm or Texas or something.

prius? don't care about em so long as nobody make me buckle up and ride in one.

lazs

hblair · « **Reply #27 on:** April 21, 2004, 08:48:50 AM »

Move to Alabama lazs. The home of free firearms and open exhausts. Everybody owns a few rifles and handguns. The standard operating procedure when purchasing a new truck is discarding the OEM exhaust and installing flowmasters. Of course we have a redneck or two. But what the hey? What's an "emission test" anyways?

lazs2 · « **Reply #28 on:** April 21, 2004, 09:01:01 AM »

I may.. will be looking around when I retire. will have a lot of california overpriced realestate cash in hand..

Don't really like humidity tho.

lazs

Mini D · « **Reply #29 on:** April 21, 2004, 09:03:12 AM »

You sure it's 76 lazs? 75 is the year most states stop this rolling exemption because of the catylitic converter.

MiniD