Danish businessman kidnapped in Iraq found dead

[Steve]

But it wasnt that heaven / that problem before the war.

Yes it was

[Duedel]

Not it wasnt

[SOB]

Originally posted by Bodhi
Kubaissi is nothing more than a terrorist ploy to get more money for supporting his terorist networks... plain and simple.

BTW, thanks Spain, it is your fault that the current hostage BS is working...

Congratulations, you sound just as stupid as Kubaissi.

[Steve]

Not it wasnt

Ya you're right.  The terrorist training camps were really Disney theme parks.

[Torque]

okie dokie

[Duedel]

Originally posted by Steve
Ya you're right.  The terrorist training camps were really Disney theme parks.

Do u really want to compare those terrorist training camps with the situation now in Iraq? I guess not cause this would be stupid.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Duedel
To fight terrorism is everyone's problem but what does this has to do with Iraq?

How soon we forget, or choose to look the other way, out of political arrogance....

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Our war on terror begins with al Qaida, but it does not end there. . . . we will pursue nations that provide aid or safe haven to terrorism. Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime. . . President George W. Bush, Joint Session of Congress, September 20, 2001
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Saddam Hussein is paying $25,000 to the relatives of Palestinian suicide bombers -- a $15,000 raise much welcomed by the bombers' families. In Tulkarm, one of the poorest towns on the West Bank, a member of the Palestinian Legislative Council handed out the checks from Saddam. The payments have been made for at least two years, but the amount has suddenly jumped up by $15,000 -- a bonus for the families of 'martyrs', to reward those taking part in the escalating war against Israel. . . . Fox News, March 26, 2002
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This general served Saddam Hussein for decades. Along with another Iraqi defector, Sabah Khodada (see below), the general tells of terrorists training in a Boeing 707 resting next to railroad tracks on the edge of Salman Pak, an area south of Baghdad. The existence of the plane has been confirmed by U.N. inspectors. The general describes the men who trained there, the camp's security, and his "gut feeling" that the camp was in some way tied to the Sept. 11 attacks. Iraqi Lt. General, PBS and New York Times Interview, November 6, 2001
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A captain in the Iraqi army from 1982 to 1992, he worked at what he describes as a highly secret terrorist training camp at Salman Pak, an area south of Baghdad. In this translated interview Khodada describes what went on at Salman Pak, including details on training hijackers. He emigrated to the U.S. in May 2001. Sabah Kodada, Iraqi Army Captain, PBS and New York Times Interview, October 14, 2001
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An investigation by Frontline confirmed that Iraqi intelligence had trained at least forty Islamic terrorists between 1995 and 2000 in how to hijacking airliners using a Boeing-747 that was originally Kuwaiti property. Frontline, PBS, November 14, 2001
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Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety of American citizens. . . . Congressional Resolution Authorizing Force Against Iraq, October 15, 2002
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Shortly before the Sept. 11 attacks, a group of al-Qaida fighters left Afghanistan and set up shop in Iraq as a backup base, according to a report in today‘s Los Angeles Times. Osama bin Laden‘s jihadists established such a base in town of Al Biyara and nearby mountain villages where Kurdish militants had begun imposing the strict Islamic rule much like Afghanistan‘s ousted Taliban regime, according to the Times report. While this base is further evidence of Saddam Hussein‘s recent support of al-Qaida, documented by many intelligence sources over the last 10 years, Iraq is attempting to maintain plausible deniability with regard to the bases – suggesting they are outside the control of the government in Baghdad. Intelmessages.com and Los Angeles Times, December 9, 2002
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The British also released a dossier on Iraq which claimed that at least two key Al-Qaeda lieutenants underwent training inIraq. The dossier also confirmed that Iraq was paying Al-Qaeda to use its Ansar forces based in northern Iraq to attack the Kurdish forces. Reuters, September 14, 2002
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Simply no basis for action

[Gixer]

Ripsnort,

Ever wonderd if that intelligence might of come from the same excellent sources as the WMD?




...-Gixer

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Gixer
Ripsnort,

Ever wonderd if that intelligence might of come from the same excellent sources as the WMD?




...-Gixer

Not when we've actually had some of the aforementioned in custody. Too bad one died in custody.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Gixer
Ripsnort,

Ever wonderd if that intelligence might of come from the same excellent sources as the WMD?




...-Gixer

Not when we've actually had some of the aforementioned in custody. Too bad one died in custody.

[Duedel]

Ripsnort u can quote what u want. Since the allied invaded Iraq there is more terrorism, chaos, hatred and anarchy than before. What about Palestine, why didnt u invade this "country"? What about Pakistan? What about Syria? What about Iran...?
The war against the Talibanin Afghanistan was necessary, no question but the war on Iraq only raised anger.
Why?
Cause the allied showed that they are not able to manage the "fight against terrorism" in Iraq. They clearly showed that they are capable to fight an army but are not capable to fight terrorist (man they didnt manage to repacify Afghanistan until now - German troops involved).
Further on they underestimated the aftermaths of this invasion. This is a pain in the *** cause they raised many terrorist with their solo attempt. They raised way more terrorsits than those that ever could be trained in these Iraqi camps.

Like Blitz said. Iraq was not a threat to the USA its plain redicoulus. But now Iraq is a big threat to, yep maybe all.

[Gixer]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Not when we've actually had some of the aforementioned in custody. Too bad one died in custody.

Ripsnort,

I appreciate your point of view on terroism in Iraq, but just ask yourself one question.

Do you think the level of terroist activity in Iraq now is less or greater then prior to the invasion and current occupation of Iraq?



...-Gixer

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Gixer
Ripsnort,

I appreciate your point of view on terroism in Iraq, but just ask yourself one question.

Do you think the level of terroist activity in Iraq now is less or greater then prior to the invasion and current occupation of Iraq?



...-Gixer

Here is a post from me some time ago, and its how I feel:

Originally posted by Ripsnort
From a strategic point of view, it was a brilliant move.

Establish a base in the middle east to ensure safe flow of the oil to the world.

Center the "fight on terrorism" in the Middle east, instead of on our home. Let the terrorists come to us in Iraq.

Let neighboring countries know that if you plan to support/finance terrorism in the future, *we* will know about it. Think of it as a neighborhood "Block watch".

Regardless of the initial motive, the humanitarian side of it has proven it was a just war.

Brilliant!

[Ripsnort]

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