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Offline rpm

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« Reply #30 on: May 08, 2004, 04:20:26 AM »
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I had to stop after the first line.....if that's not a steryotype (not saying its not true) I dont know what is.

:rofl

Gun, you and I are usually on the opposite side of a subject, but I gotta agree with ya on this.
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« Reply #31 on: May 08, 2004, 08:10:46 AM »
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Lynndie, eh?

K lemme try it out.

Lynndie.

Lyndieeeee.

Lynndieaaaa.

Lynndiooooooooh......

Gimmy some lynndie.......

Lynndelicious.....

GAWDAMMIT $%$# way to ruin a good thing.

Don't get me wrong, I still have the hots for her. But now I gotta rethink my plans.


you have the hots for Lyndie England?  She is a skank.
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« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2004, 08:11:48 AM »
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Gun... FWIW, having worked with Marines, Army, and Navy the last 3 yrs, I have to say I find the USMC the most capable, well organized and "have it's **** together" service... peroid.  

However.. I was referring to Nash's avitar..not yours.  Hey, I love your avitar.  But Nash's gets me all hot and botherd :)

T.


Ill second that tumor.  Marines are in a class by themselves.
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« Reply #33 on: May 08, 2004, 10:05:17 AM »
Personally, in light of these sickening revelations, I think it is time for our society to do some soul searching about our attitudes involving sex, self-gratification, ego-centrism, and moral values in general.

Regards, Shuckins/Leggern
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Offline StabbyTheIcePic

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« Reply #34 on: May 08, 2004, 10:05:50 AM »
The question on my mind is how was this allowed to go on for the past year?
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« Reply #35 on: May 08, 2004, 10:06:27 AM »
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Originally posted by Nash
Lynndie, eh?

K lemme try it out.

Lynndie.

Lyndieeeee.

Lynndieaaaa.

Lynndiooooooooh......

Gimmy some lynndie.......

Lynndelicious.....

GAWDAMMIT $%$# way to ruin a good thing.

Don't get me wrong, I still have the hots for her. But now I gotta rethink my plans.


Ok now I'm afraid that you are taking drugs again... ;)
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« Reply #36 on: May 08, 2004, 10:07:56 AM »
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The question on my mind is how was this allowed to go on for the past year?


IMO Poor leadership and supervision at the prison is the primary cause, training could be a problem too.
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« Reply #37 on: May 08, 2004, 10:10:13 AM »
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IMO Poor leadership and supervision at the prison is the primary cause, training could be a problem too.


Or it could just be human nature...  http://www.prisonexp.org/
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« Reply #38 on: May 08, 2004, 10:15:35 AM »
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Or it could just be human nature...  http://www.prisonexp.org/


But thats not an excuse.  

Its also human nature not to want to get killed yet the Army is very succesful in training and leading people to enter battle.

They should have an equally effective taining and leadership program to prevent abuses.

So I wont accept that as a line of reasoing, they should train people better.

If that article I posted is accurate anout the predominant cultural attitudes of this MP unit's membership then there needs to be some serious training going on before these people are ever allowed to be in contol of another human being.
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« Reply #39 on: May 08, 2004, 10:16:42 AM »
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Or it could just be human nature...  http://www.prisonexp.org/


My question is who allowed this **** to go on for the past year? Why did their superior officers turn a blind eye?


This is not human nature, this is the nature of sick humans.
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« Reply #40 on: May 08, 2004, 10:17:15 AM »
According to that right-wing pro-bush site, it DIDN'T go on for a year. Check the "Abuse Timeline" they have posted.

According to CNN:

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October-December 2003: Many of the alleged abuses at Abu Ghraib take place during this time period

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January 13, 2004: Army Spc. Joseph M. Darby, an MP with the 800th at Abu Ghraib, first reports cases of abuse at the prison.


January 16: Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez orders a criminal investigation into reports of abuse at the prison by members of the brigade. The military also announces the investigation publicly


Looks like first instances in October, investigation begins in January. Four months.

There's no excusing it and it shouldn't be excused.

There's also no way to make it into the "standard of behavior" of all US troops.

It's an aberration, not a norm. Those that try to depict it otherwise are simply making themselves look........ like people of low intelligence.
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« Reply #41 on: May 08, 2004, 10:17:33 AM »
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But thats not an excuse.  

Its also human nature not to want to get killed yet the Army is very succesful in training and leading people to enter battle.

They should have an equally effective taining and leadership program to prevent abuses.

So I wont accept that as a line of reasoing, they should train people better.

If that article I posted is accurate anout the predominant cultural attitudes of this MP unit's membership then there needs to be some serious training going on before these people are ever allowed to be in contol of another human being.


What about the private contractors that were doing such things. Even if we reform our army, what about them?
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« Reply #42 on: May 08, 2004, 10:18:24 AM »
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So I wont accept that as a line of reasoing, they should train people better.
 


You're probably right, but I bet they spent most of their training dollars learning how to fight instead.
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« Reply #43 on: May 08, 2004, 10:19:14 AM »
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My question is who allowed this **** to go on for the past year? Why did their superior officers turn a blind eye?


This is not human nature, this is the nature of sick humans.


The perpetrators, the immediuate superiors, and the commander of the prison - it's their "fault."

However its the US presidents responsibility to accept and correct the situation.
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« Reply #44 on: May 08, 2004, 10:23:46 AM »
This Lyndie chick really made a FOOL out of her self and did for sure discrace her uniform no excuse for that kind of silly crap.

Stabby I'm allways gonna be on or militarys side but in the case of these tards I agree with ya bud.
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